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Mylabris, 10.12.2007 23:26

I understand that it is very difficult to convey all the variety of color iridescences of glitter, but I will try anyway. Do not judge strictly (or rather constructively criticize) for photos. As far as I came across the fauna of Central Asia-the horse has not yet been lying around. Remarkable works on Central Asia (namely, the Tien Shan) were published by Tarbinsky. But, unfortunately, very little material was identified. Pictured is one of the unidentified males of Chrysis sp. I will be glad for any comments from colleagues both in the field of definition and in the field of tips on Microphotography.

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10.12.2007 23:28, Pavel Morozov

BEAUTY!

11.12.2007 0:50, Proctos

In general, everything is very good. I just wouldn't get carried away with full radial copying. You can copy individual parts of the body, but so that the illusion of naturalness remains. For an online publication, when shooting, I would choose a gray background, it is the most contrasting to the color and the pubescence of the body becomes visible. You can view an example of such a survey here http://www.waspweb.org/Chrysidoidea/Chrysi...s_splendens.htm
And of course, to illuminate such a brilliant object, you need to use reflected light. It seemed to me that direct light was used, glare went.
All other gadgets, such as gluing together several layers or tricks with sharpness and lighting levels, come from the software component.
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11.12.2007 10:27, Bad Den

In general, everything is very good. I just wouldn't get carried away with full radial copying.

And how is it noticeable?

11.12.2007 11:09, Nilson

Great! One of my favorite pepon groups!
I agree that a white background is not the best choice.
In general, I support Proctos.

25.12.2007 16:18, Mylabris

Another brilliant girl from the Trans-Ili Alatau.

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29.12.2007 18:13, Mylabris

Another beauty. Trans-Ili Alatau, July 2007.

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13.01.2008 23:50, paganel

I understand that it is very difficult to convey all the variety of color iridescences of glitter, but I will try anyway. Do not judge strictly (or rather constructively criticize) for photos. As far as I came across the fauna of Central Asia-the horse has not yet been lying around. Remarkable works on Central Asia (namely, the Tien Shan) were published by Tarbinsky. But, unfortunately, very little material was identified. Pictured is one of the unidentified males of Chrysis sp. I will be glad for any comments from colleagues both in the field of definition and in the field of tips on Microphotography.


in the photo of Chrysis fulgida. At one time, I started making a website www.chrysididae.narod.ru yes, I threw it-no need.
All the best
Alexandr
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13.01.2008 23:52, paganel

Another brilliant girl from the Trans-Ili Alatau.


Most likely Chrysura dichroa but you need to look from below.
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17.01.2008 11:56, Mylabris

I'll continue. Chrysis sp., SE Kazakhstan.

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18.01.2008 11:03, Mylabris

One of the most beautiful (in my opinion) glitters of my collection. Fished in July 2005, foothill desert in the Ili River valley.

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19.03.2009 23:39, Papaver

Dear Mylabris, I have long wanted to ask you-what is the fate of this amazing material (Chrysidid) from Wed. Asia and Kazakhstan?

20.03.2009 10:11, Stas Shinkarenko

Surroundings of Volgograd. It's hard to shoot these eardrums - blikuchaya coloring + very nimble, but these animals are worth the effort!

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20.03.2009 16:32, Papaver

Wise_snake, are you just shooting or are you still catching yourself?

20.03.2009 18:51, Mylabris

Dear Mylabris, I have long wanted to ask you-what is the fate of this amazing material (Chrysidid) from Wed. Asia and Kazakhstan?

Waiting for its turn in the boxes. To tell the truth, I don't have many of them - 30-40 copies.
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20.03.2009 19:24, Liparus

Blue from Indonesia, oh.Java, Republic of Crimea, Kanakskaya gulch on bean inflorescences
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20.03.2009 20:45, Stas Shinkarenko

Wise_snake, are you just shooting or are you still catching yourself?

Just taking pictures. But I plan to start collecting insects this year.

20.03.2009 22:53, Papaver

Just taking pictures. But I plan to start collecting insects this year.

My suggestion to you, unfortunately, does not shine with originality - to pick up material on blestyankam. How are you? shuffle.gif

21.03.2009 8:23, Stas Shinkarenko

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21.03.2009 8:38, Papaver

Do you need instructions? After all, you need to know where and how to catch them. Maybe something else besides the instructions - for example, ethyl acetate and so on. ... Do you have a general understanding of the collection and storage of entomological material? Sorry, dear Wise_snake, if I ask a lot of "stupid" or "unnecessary" questions - but suddenly I need information or other support... cool.gif Don't hesitate!
And now I have to leave the forum-until the evening...
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21.03.2009 9:13, RippeR

spangles are good to collect on yellow plates with soapy water
and are also very good for window traps.

21.03.2009 10:40, Stas Shinkarenko

Do you need instructions? After all, you need to know where and how to catch them. Maybe something else besides the instructions - for example, ethyl acetate and so on. ... Do you have a general understanding of the collection and storage of entomological material? Sorry, dear Wise_snake, if I ask a lot of "stupid" or "unnecessary" questions - but suddenly I need information or other support... cool.gif Don't hesitate!
And now I have to leave the forum-until the evening...

I have some basic knowledge (I work with local collectors), but mostly on butterflies and beetles. So the methods of collecting insects and other squads are very interesting.

21.03.2009 16:31, Papaver

For Wise_snake: Got it. I'll be back from the expedition in three weeks , and then I'll get in touch with you thoroughly. There are specific features of the collection. And-see below!
For RippeR: True. Although it is better to add 2-3 drops of Fairy liquid as a detergent - the liquid remains transparent and the smell may play a role. And it is important that window traps and yellow cups often give a sector of local fauna that is not "taken" by mowing and manual harvesting. By the way, maybe you can get some sparkles? wink.gif

21.03.2009 17:19, RippeR

I have about 10 glitters from the Ministry of Defense. Nikitsky gave me the spangles to devour, because he throws them away anyway. However, I do not know how well they will deal with it, since it adds a little formalin to the windows. I think there are 3-4 types..
In general, if you are interested, I will collect glitter.

21.03.2009 17:55, Papaver

For RippeR: VERY interesting! Catch it, please! Is there anything else besides MO?"
But I'm not being picky. And I'll take it from the Ministry of Defense with pleasure. The last work on the chrysidids of the Moscow region, written by A. B. Zvantsov, dates back to 1988. Another" little bit " -and a quarter of a century has passed... frown.gif

21.03.2009 18:06, RippeR

In addition to the Ministry of Defense, there is still no frown.gifPossible 1 copy from the Crimea, but I don't remember exactly (
But they will be over time - depending on where else I will go. Moldovans are caught from time to time..

21.03.2009 18:35, Papaver

Great! What is the best way to do this? I can pick up what I have in 3 weeks. Another option is that you "dig up" the material and I will "unload" you in the fall. As I understand it, you can be found (at least occasionally) in the Moscow State University Pet Museum?
Yes! And for God's sake, do not throw away the spangles from the window collections - this is the most valuable material on their distribution and biotopic confinement in the territory of the Ministry of Defense!

21.03.2009 19:39, RippeR

better in the fall, or rather in August, when I will be in Russia, at the congress. Then I can forward it or leave it at the Pet Museum )

21.03.2009 19:48, RippeR

on throwing out spangles from windows - this is to Nikistkom. He only needs beetles, and not to glitter and other things.. So he doesn't take them. if you find a person .which would help him with loading and unloading windows, and would choose all the glitter and other pereponovy joys..

21.03.2009 19:54, Papaver

And how long will you stay in Moscow in August - maybe the beginning of September will be captured? I'm afraid I won't be back from the expedition in time for August..."
And who works with Nikitsky? I will ask you to give the "drain" without disassembling - all their troubles are less.

21.03.2009 22:07, RippeR

nikiktsky selects every bug, even the smallest, and will not bother with the eardrums in addition. If there are friends in the Ministry of Defense who are interested in the topic, let them ask for help - they need help, since it is not easy to set and check a huge number of traps themselves throughout the region.. And you will be guaranteed a huge number of subscriptions.

I won't be in Moscow for very long, most likely.. frown.gif Therefore, if there is a place or someone to leave it. then it's better this way. (most importantly, don't forget to remind us closer to the beginning of August so that you don't forget the material).
I can leave it at least in the peda, at least in the zoological department, at least with someone from vorumchan.

21.03.2009 22:59, Papaver

Understood. Thank you.
There will be an opportunity-let me remind you, but it is unlikely - too far from civilization. Ah-ah-ah! Leave the material in the Pet Museum to Dima Gavryushin (he is with dipterologists) - and Dima will give me everything. Tell them it's spangles , and they'll cut it down. And-thank you again! yes.gif

22.03.2009 1:55, Bad Den

Papaver, do you know M. Mokrousov?
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22.03.2009 9:07, Konung

uv. Papaver, and could you help with the definition of spangles from Western Siberia (Omsk region)?

22.03.2009 11:56, Liparus

Does anyone know how to keep spangles in wooden logs with holes drilled in them for example in a suburban area?And what kind of wood is needed for this oak, willow, birch...the wood should probably be dry...I think other wasps should settle in the logs , and after them in the houses should fly blestyanki?

22.03.2009 13:00, Papaver

You, Liparus, probably did not mean "contain" but "attract".
Take 4 small-diameter chocks (preferably not juniper, poplar, willow or aspen) 15-25 cm long. Drill holes in the ends of different diameters - from 2 to 6 mm, and different depths - 2-12 cm. Fasten them together - for example, tie them with a rope. And install it permanently in the b. - m. suitable place. It would also be nice to make a gable roof to this structure.
Experiment with the installation in different biotopes, at different heights (starting from the ground), with different exposure sides of the "hive-trap" and so on.
There are still different types of such "hives", but if they do not need to be dragged to Cheri where - this type is quite suitable.
Well, after installing the "hive" process, you predicted correctly. smile.gif
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22.03.2009 18:07, Papaver

Papaver, do you know M. Mokrousov?

Unfortunately, no. Only with his works (of course, not with all of them). And you will laugh-I quoted it in a botanical article. umnik.gif
And what?

22.03.2009 18:30, Papaver

uv. Papaver, and could you help with the definition of spangles from Western Siberia (Omsk region)?

Dear Konung,
1. With great pleasure! - I am most interested in materials from Siberia. Only with real access to the publication. Because to sit and determine the pictures in the network... Especially Chrysidides... Well, you know...
2. Isn't your name Oleg? wink.gif

24.03.2009 13:10, Konung

2 Papaver: Very good! The material is not personally mine, but my colleague's, but he will not mind co-authoring it. How can I send you the material? You can discuss the details by e-mail: konungomsk@yandex.ru
P.S. my name is Svyatoslav smile.gif
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24.03.2009 19:01, Papaver

Waiting for its turn in the boxes. To tell the truth, I don't have many of them - 30-40 copies.

Dear Mylabris,
Thank you for replying. Tell me, how much do I owe you if you properly collect the chrysidides for me and add to them the same 30-40 copies?
I can only convince you of the "seriousness of my intentions" in one way (although determining glitter from a photo is rather dubious): see the 3rd tergite "one of the most beautiful ... glitter of my collection " (it is not visible in the photo); if it is blue, and the teeth on the anal edge are translucent, then it is Brugmoia kyrgyzica Tarbinsky. yes.gif

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