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09.12.2013 23:28, dim-va

It's been a long time since any news has been posted on this topic. But take a look. Very interesting sample. I hung on to it for a long time, and it seemed to me that something obviously went wrong at the conservatory. Maybe I don't understand, colleagues, and the job is really cool?

http://isu.ru/ru/science/boards/biol7/SuslovAV.pdf

10.12.2013 0:23, Dmitrii Musolin

when you first view it, it's a little weak... And I don't know such a leader, although I am engaged in forest entomology. But Yu. N. Baranchikov and ZIN would hardly agree to be ofits. opponents, if everything was bad...

10.12.2013 0:25, Hierophis

Cool start, already unsettling, everything is so-so peaceful, and then suddenly on you -..... are one of the most dangerous... brrr )))

By the way, even I noticed that there is something wrong in this paragraph, for the study of this text, it would be nice to invite Justus wink.gifto ask why one of the most dangerous and at the same time diverse are lepidoptera, a group of insects that smile.gif

10.12.2013 13:54, Dmitry Vlasov

when you first view it, it's a little weak... And I don't know such a leader, although I am engaged in forest entomology. But Yu. N. Baranchikov and ZIN would hardly agree to be ofits. opponents, if everything was bad...

Isn't this the job that YOON was talking about during the coffee break at the last Katai games??? I did not delve into it, but it seems that he and ZIN (represented by Sinev S. Yu.) refused to oppose the defense of some Irkutsk work...

10.12.2013 17:22, Dmitrii Musolin

someone was drinking tea during breaks, and someone was running around on businesssmile.gif.

10.12.2013 18:24, Юстус

  
Roma, you zhe'zh after all - "good" (fsme - kind) boy? So what's the big deal?
Kaneshna in aftariferate - a lot of "holes". So what?
The " main provisions submitted for defense "(not without great reproach) are "very weakly" consistent with the provisions contained in the "Conclusions". E't the first.
Dalshe need?

10.12.2013 18:27, Юстус

  
Do not wake up "famously" while "it" is quiet (optionsmile.gif sleeps.

10.12.2013 18:46, bora

Read this, it's a good thing:
http://www.zin.ru/boards/00222301/materials/ShapovalNA.pdf
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10.12.2013 22:43, rhopalocera.com

Read this, it's a good thing:
http://www.zin.ru/boards/00222301/materials/ShapovalNA.pdf



I heard this report at the REO Congress, and at the same time Lukhtanov asked me not to post it online - something was unpublished. Now, I think, you can already post it (I kept a record). So, this report was blown to smithereens by Rasnitsyn with just one question: "And how??? Through spermatozoa??? Is mitochondrial DNA transmitted???".

But really. How?)))

The message was edited rhopalocera.com - 10.12.2013 22: 43

11.12.2013 0:15, Hierophis

11.12.2013 0:19, Hierophis

Do not wake up "famously" while "it" is quiet (optionsmile.gif sleeps.

confused.gif Wow, I certainly imagined that you are very cold, but to such an extent that some fall into hibernation...... lol.gif

11.12.2013 3:39, bora

So, this report was blown to smithereens by Rasnitsyn with just one question: "And how??? Through spermatozoa??? Is mitochondrial DNA transmitted???".

But really. How?)))

Perhaps through spermatozoa, it is sometimes possible. Otherwise, how could there be CO1 heterogeneity? Very rare, but it comes across - for example, the result of tsvetaevi-icarus hybridization. And Martin Wiemers once came across a similar specimen of Agrodiaetus.

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11.12.2013 12:11, Лавр Большаков

While running through the "pests of birch forests". I did not understand on what basis many of the listed species are associated with them. Yes, they live in them, but they eat primarily grasses and bushes of undergrowth. And the very phrase "pests" is absurd. There are no other pests in birch forests other than humans, and in the long term they are more harmful to successions.

11.12.2013 14:14, dim-va

Work on "pests of birch forests" is removed from protection. Baranchikov and ZIN gave negative reviews.
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12.12.2013 9:19, Лавр Большаков

I also read Shapoval's a-paper. This is the first very, very decent work on butterflies, submitted to the court on this branch in the current period of time. I can't argue about how MT DNA and other subtle substances are transferred (I'm a complete teapot here). However, it is noteworthy that taxa with small "percentages" for CO1 and ITS2 are accepted in the status of species. Does this mean that the notorious "2%" is being quietly but steadily abandoned?

12.12.2013 9:34, Valentinus

Read this, it's a good thing:
http://www.zin.ru/boards/00222301/materials/ShapovalNA.pdf

The work is interesting, quite worthy of the desired degree, and raises some topical questions:
1. How much can statistical differences in mtDNA be trusted?
The author himself lists several options:
- polyphelitic taxon
-intrapopulation genetic polymorphism
-borrowing of mitochondria from other species
As I understand it, all variants in nature are possible. Hence the second question.
2. Maybe abandon COI and trust nuclear ITS2 more confused.gif
In Nazar Shapoval's atoreferat, as I understand it, the evidence for borrowing mitochondria is based precisely on the analysis of the nuclear gene.
From the last systematic perturbations, I immediately recall the story with Callophrys chalybeitincta, when Ten Hagen reduced the species to synonyms with C. rubi, and B. V. Stradomsky's analysis of nuclear DNA returned the taxon to the status of a species.

12.12.2013 9:37, bora

However, it is noteworthy that taxa with small "percentages" for CO1 and ITS2 are accepted in the status of species. So, the rejection of the notorious "2%" is quietly but steadily going on?

2% is not a dogma, but an average difference over a very large sample, and 2% is completely out of character for ITS2. What is important here is the complex difference or identity of a complex of loci, especially both mitochondrial and nuclear loci at the same time.

12.12.2013 9:42, bora

The work is interesting, quite worthy of the desired degree, and raises some topical questions:
1. How much can statistical differences in mtDNA be trusted?
The author himself lists several options:
- polyphelitic taxon
-intrapopulation genetic polymorphism
-borrowing of mitochondria from other species
As I understand it, all variants in nature are possible. Hence the second question.
2. Maybe abandon COI and trust nuclear ITS2 more confused.gif
In Nazar Shapoval's atoreferat, as I understand it, the evidence for borrowing mitochondria is based precisely on the analysis of the nuclear gene.
From the last systematic perturbations, I immediately recall the story with Callophrys chalybeitincta, when Ten Hagen reduced the species to synonyms with C. rubi, and B. V. Stradomsky's analysis of nuclear DNA returned the taxon to the status of a species.

Indeed, in about 5% of the studied species, CO1 fails. But in 95% - it works very well. As I just wrote, we need a comprehensive approach. And one ITS2, I think, is not enough - it's just a protein-non-coding sequence. For completeness, a protein-coding gene is also needed, for example, EF-1a.

12.12.2013 10:02, Valentinus

Indeed, in about 5% of the studied species, CO1 fails. But in 95% - it works very well. As I just wrote, we need a comprehensive approach. And one ITS2, I think, is not enough - it's just a protein-non-coding sequence. To complete the picture, we also need a protein-coding gene, for example, EF-1a.

OK, but the protein-non-coding sequence is not subject to selection, and the protein-coding sequence is subject to selection. After all, the beauty of mitochondria was that their genome can tell about evolutionary time, since they are not selected. No?

12.12.2013 10:30, bora

Why aren't they selected? Even as selected. It's just that substitutions mostly follow the third letters of triplets. Their replacement most often does not change the amino acid sequence.
For this reason, it is the nuclear protein-coding sequence that is needed. With preferential substitutions for the third letter, as in mitochondrial cells. These patterns do not apply to ITS2.This locus has both insertions and giant deletions.

12.02.2014 10:16, rhopalocera.com

The promised report of V. A. Lukhtanov.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bnRangaMXU

12.02.2014 15:57, Aleksandr Ermakov

This is a restricted video....

12.02.2014 16:56, rhopalocera.com

I apologize.
opened
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12.02.2014 17:34, Hierophis

uh, so at the most interesting place!!! Strangely, it was during the answer to the most interesting question that the video ended)

12.02.2014 19:04, rhopalocera.com

I didn't write any further. Lukhtanov couldn't answer Rasnitsyn clearly.

27.11.2015 17:01, Aleksandr Ermakov

Asked to write a review, I read the first word of the title (CARABIDAE (INSECTA, COLEOPTERA, CARABOIDEA) of the KHANTY-MANSIYSK AUTONOMOUS OKRUG-UGRA) and immediately decided not to write, so as not to harm even more...
But then I foolishly started reading the full text of my dissertation and fell off my chair eek.gif
In general, I recommend it as a light reading material. So many pearls. Here you will find a link to the author's website vk.com and the difficulties of detecting amphibian excrement in nature, and finally, our own system of abbreviating the names of taxa authors, developed to save space and put out in a separate appendix (the applicant spared only Linnaeus ). I will keep silent about the design, scientific blunders and gaps, this is for three sheets of scribbling.
dissertation
author's abstract

This post was edited by scarabee - 27.11.2015 17: 02
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27.11.2015 17:26, Dmitrii Musolin

if you have something to say, then you should write a negative review and send it. what is then surprising that you were given a degree? ...

27.11.2015 17:45, scarit

Asked to write a review, I read the first word of the title (CARABIDAE (INSECTA, COLEOPTERA, CARABOIDEA) of the KHANTY-MANSIYSK AUTONOMOUS OKRUG-UGRA) and immediately decided not to write, so as not to harm even more...
But then I foolishly started reading the full text of my dissertation and fell off my chair eek.gif
In general, I recommend it as a light reading material. So many pearls. Here you will find a link to the author's website vk.com and the difficulties of detecting amphibian excrement in nature, and finally, our own system of abbreviating the names of taxa authors, developed to save space and put out in a separate appendix (the applicant spared only Linnaeus ). I will keep silent about the design, scientific blunders and gaps, this is for three sheets of scribbling.
dissertation
author's abstract

Abbreviations of taxa authors ' surnames, of course, were killed. Especially Du., Ga., Pi.& Mi.

28.11.2015 10:47, Shtil

Mda, it works powerfully, only splinters fly:
"Pterostichus brevicornis is a dendrobiont, an inhabitant of the bark of trees..."
The list of publications also delivers.

29.11.2015 21:40, Лавр Большаков

if you have something to say, then you should write a negative review and send it. why then be surprised that you were given a degree?...


I fully agree with you on this point. And then after all, mutual responsibility, fear of "harm" or "offend" (how gentle they are, these dissertation rogues!) as a result, it leads to the "settling down" of outright cattle and attempts to organize appropriate "scientific schools".
In this case, you should also look at the support group of the "applicant" - "boss", oponents, etc. After all, this rogue has a "scientific supervisor", there are loyal "oponents", clackers of calls and other "pushers".
I don't know what the current situation is in the Higher Attestation Commission. A few years ago, the entire near-scientific mafia felt very comfortable. Any dissertation-based nonsense supported in thoroughly corrupt dissertation councils was automatically submitted for approval.
Therefore, if you are really concerned about the fate of education - write negative reviews, copies to the Higher Attestation Commission and the Ministry, and publish them in the scientific press.
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04.12.2015 16:04, Aleksandr Ermakov

We recommended that you remove the work from protection and rework it
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05.12.2015 10:04, Лавр Большаков

...they recommended removing the work from protection and reworking it

Here it is necessary not to "recycle" a funny text (they will easily find a "Negro" for this), but to force the "applicant" himself to really retrain. Otherwise, he will hire a "negro", hand over the "revised" text in a month, and routinely defend himself. At best, with its "float" will go to clerks, at worst - will carry to the masses "carbine" smile.gif

12.12.2015 11:59, Makarov

Colleagues,
since the dissovet does not post reviews immediately (in theory, after receiving the paper original), M. B.-post them here?

12.12.2015 14:02, scarit

Colleagues,
since the dissovet does not post reviews immediately (in theory, after receiving the paper original), M. B.-post them here?

Why not?

12.12.2015 14:16, Makarov

For the sample

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12.12.2015 14:37, Dmitrii Musolin

For the sample


Kirill, I think YOUR name and patronymic should be written in full in the review (according to formal requirements)

12.12.2015 14:45, Makarov

Yes, this is true - the final waanit has already been fixed

15.12.2015 3:29, Coelioxys

you can view the protection materials here: http://www.ams.tsu.ru/TSU/QualificationDep...hK24122015.html

Judging by the fact that colleagues from Novosibirsk gave a formally positive review as a leading organization, the opinions of other colleagues expressed in the reviews of the abstract are unlikely to be particularly taken into account DS.

15.12.2015 9:48, Makarov

The trouble with these formally positive reviews. The leading organization in this sense has created a unique text. On the second page of the review, it is written that there is a proven border between the middle and southern taiga, and therefore the dissertation student is well done. And on the following pages - that this conclusion is unfounded. And so on, and in the end-all is well.
I wonder what ordinary citizens would say about the court proceedings, where instead of the prosecutor there would be a second lawyer? At best , it means that the outcome of the trial is known in advance.
Therefore, Maxim is most likely right.
Unless someone decides to fight for the truth later.

15.12.2015 14:21, scarit

Just shocking reviews, of course.
"The abstract of the dissertation is well written, easy to read, illustrated with a map-diagram, diagrams and table" - as it is written in one of the reviews for this opus. Then you don't have to read it...

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