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14.12.2008 9:57, Юлька

Today , to my surprise, she again showed some activity, she caught a fly....and since we read that they also eat lizards, we tried to give her meat ....so she eagerly eats it....... than this is explained , I do not understand

14.12.2008 20:43, Мих

And if the wings are not fully unfolded the male empusa will in principle be able to live normally and mate???

14.12.2008 23:45, DmitryBurkow

Do you also have problems with the wings of males? I already have two of them... They live normally, the fighters are still the same - even I'm afraid of them. They eat like hippos, run, jump, periodically depict Icarus, making a "flight" from the shelf to the floor. I think they'll see a female and guess what to do with her =)
Moreover, my "cripples" have absolutely everything the same, and when molting the middle pair of legs, a drop of green hemolymph appeared and dried up-apparently because of this, the wings did not open completely, there was not enough pressure.
http://dmitry.burkow.ru/temp/imago.jpg
Here you can see this drop. It is the same for both.

15.12.2008 21:24, Боря

The winter Hierodula membranacea kept without u-f had similar symptoms (not fully spread and wrinkled wings). Mich showed in this or another topic photos of his praying mantises, by age, it seems, predimago, in which, also grown without u-f, the walking legs were deformed (bent) in the same way. I will add that those hierodules did not mate.
So I think we need a u-f lamp.

15.12.2008 21:39, Феанор

Interestingly, if their UV irradiation is only at the last age, they will be enough?

16.12.2008 18:22, Боря

I don't have such an example about mantises, but I will say about locusts (Schistocerca gregaria), they are generally related. Five larvae normally grew to adult size under incandescent light, but did not mate, and about a month after the imaginal molt, they began to die. When there were only two left, I bought 'Sera Terra UV'. After two days of radiation exposure, about 2 hours a day, they mated. The unhealthy-looking redness that had developed on the male's pronotum also disappeared. The female laid eggs, totaling three clutches, and the older offspring are now predimago. She died about a week ago, and the male, who was elated in mid-August, is still alive today (!).
It seems to me that if the praying mantises are irradiated with u/f at the imago stage, then perhaps they will be able to leave offspring.

16.12.2008 21:54, Феанор

How many hours a day do they need?

16.12.2008 22:00, Vivius

My praying mantises (common) have had a molt, now they reach a length of just over 4 cm, and the rudiments of wings are observed. So an interesting defect is observed in some of them, the hind leg does not climb out of the skin and looks generally dystrophic, or just a non-working leg, and it is the rear one. Has anyone encountered such a problem? And what could be the reason? They live in plastic cups, I constantly irradiate them with UV directly through the walls of the cup for 15 minutes.

This post was edited by Vivius - 12/16/2008 22: 01

16.12.2008 22:43, Мих

Yeah.. Today the female faded. I look at your photo and I understand that mine definitely have problems. (Ultraviolet: every other day the lamp ReptiGlo 10, 13 V. Cartridge box.)
But the wings are almost not deployed at all! They stick out like rags.
From this the question arises: will these wings(females) prevent the male from jumping on the female? Shouldn't they be cut off altogether after drying? I tried to level them surgically until they were dry, but the result didn't get any better. So far, they do not interfere with movement. The male is "alert and cheerful".
Humidity, following the instructions, increased. It doesn't do much good. There was still a male and a not quite healthy female. Shedding any minute now. Increased the radiation exposure by 15 minutes. (imago sats too) What else can I do?
Also : Please, someone smart, tell me exactly about the lamp. how much to irradiate CONCRETELY. my lama?

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16.12.2008 23:28, Мих

So how can you help the remaining male and female shed successfully? (the female is more likely not to survive, but still..)

17.12.2008 7:22, DmitryBurkow

Yeah. This is really a problem... Did they shed already with increased humidity? I thought yours were about as good as mine, but mine were lucky. Now I'm thinking - in a week's time, another male will be molting somewhere, and in another week a female will be molting. And 3 more pieces that came out of the winter camp on the way, will be in a month. Perhaps it's the excess humidity, on the contrary? Although for me, when they were shedding, the humidity tended to zero. Your male will live without problems, but the female will still have to trim her wings (but not now, but when it becomes obvious that they are interfering).
In principle, the male is not so sorry - I'll try to bring my own to zero humidity with silica gel when molting, what if excessive moisture interferes? Well, as I did not use UV, I will not do it. Let's see how it ends.

17.12.2008 12:51, Юлька

all my worshipper died weep.gif weep.gif weep.gif weep.gif

17.12.2008 19:33, Боря

How many hours a day do they need?

I cover about an hour in the morning and 1-2 hours in the evening. The minimum time at which the effect will occur, I think, is from half an hour a day.

They live in plastic cups, I constantly irradiate them with UV directly through the walls of the cup for 15 minutes.

UV light does not pass through either plastic or glass. Only direct light without any obstacles. If your cups are covered with a net, you can hang a lamp on top so that the light passes through the cells.

To humidity, as far as I think, empuses are not demanding. Small L3-4s were successfully shedding about fifteen centimeters from the battery, and during lighting. With age, the demand for humidity in mantises decreases.

...I'll try to bring my own molt to zero humidity with silica gel at all, what if excessive moisture interferes?

Humidity is already almost zero when the central heating is turned on. In any case, it is lower than in nature in the evening, at night or in the morning, when mantises most often molt. It is even believed that such dry air is harmful to humans, so humidifiers were invented.


..Question: will these wings(females) prevent the male from jumping on the female? Shouldn't they be cut off altogether after drying?

When mating, mantises are guided, in addition to smell, visually. Therefore, it is desirable that the female looks more like an imago, and not a larva, which it will look like if the wings are completely cut off. In my opinion, they will hardly interfere with mating; males can sit not on the middle line, but slightly to the side. I think that you can leave them in this form.

This post was edited by Boris - 12/17/2008 19: 39
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27.12.2008 12:21, 4upakabra

There are young Sphodromantis Baccetti and Mantis Religiosa. Sell/change (the second is more welcome). Peter. icq 264333021

27.12.2008 17:04, Бабочник

Dear entomologists,
Looking for cultures

Idolomantis diabolica
Phylocrania paradoxa

If anyone can sell buy with pleasure.
Write to your personal account...Thank you in advance.

29.12.2008 10:17, DmitryBurkow

So, I report. A male empusa was born last night. Given the sad experience of previous molts, both for me and for others, I decided to go the other way - to reduce humidity.
The insect lived in a wooden shelf behind the glass, among the dried grass. Lighting: two 15W energy-saving lamps are also in the shelf. Additional moisture was absorbed by photo paper decorations and cardboard artificial thickets. There was no humidification at all, the heating in the apartment is working, the air is so dry that it is even felt. In addition, a computer is available around the clock in the room. I could not measure the humidity, because there is nothing. The temperature at night was 23 degrees. Empusa did not receive any UV radiation during her entire life.
The molt was excellent, the wings were fully spread out and folded on the back. There is only a very slight skew of the right elytra, which is why they are folded a little sideways. I don't think it will even hurt to fly. Photos will be available later. In the near future, another female empusa will take wing, I will leave the same conditions.

This post was edited by DmitryBurkow - 12/29/2008 10: 20

29.12.2008 16:17, Боря

Congratulations!
In what conditions did those who did not spread their wings live? Did they have energy-efficient lighting?

29.12.2008 16:53, DmitryBurkow

I had everyone living in the same conditions. The humidity varied slightly - before molting the previous pair of males, I slightly moistened the grass. Under energy-saving lamps (in the shelf) I transplant them in the pre-imago stage, when they are already large and will not run away. So they received equal amounts of light, possibly containing UV.

05.01.2009 18:16, Мих

Well, that's it, my female is dead. The males were sent to St. Petersburg to visit a friend, but his females are still pre-pre-imago. who in St. Petersburg has an imago of female empuzas and needs 2 males?

05.01.2009 19:04, DmitryBurkow

I have a female empusa elated. See the conditions above. The wings unfolded fully, but did not fold... Feels good, I don't think it's serious.

08.01.2009 17:19, VAZ

Sell ooteka mantis Sphodromantis baccettii in Moscow for 500 rubles.

08.01.2009 22:15, Мих

500 rubles? О_о

16.01.2009 1:44, Мих

I got Ameles, one of the teki.. and died soon (((

24.01.2009 21:46, Мих

question to DmitryBurkow. How are the empuses?

24.01.2009 23:38, Guest

By the way, yes. And how often do they shed? Mine are something very rare. Maybe it's cold, or the light isn't enough...

25.01.2009 0:11, Мих

Who is the Guest, please admit it)

25.01.2009 19:41, Феанор

I'm a guest)
So how often should empuses shed?

26.01.2009 12:56, DmitryBurkow

Well... Mine are alive. Imagos live together, the female male has already chewed everything, but yesterday she ate off her leg. But I hope he did his job. I have evicted them from the warm shelf so far (there are terrorists there), but they don't care. Two more larvae "broke through" wintering, began to hunt actively. I think in a month there will also be imagos (just a couple). They shed less often than whales, and L4 larvae tend to overwinter. Because of these wintering grounds, I got a spread of several months, although all hatched at the same time (the first 2 males did not overwinter at all, the second pair wintered for about a month, and now another pair with a wintering period of 2.5 months).

No one in St. Petersburg has male cows? Or maybe someone needs females? And then I have 9 females and one male =)

26.01.2009 21:35, Феанор

And why do empuses suddenly die? In the evening they are normal, in the afternoon they lie dead. There is enough food, it doesn't seem cold. Sadly. Several of them have already died over the winter.

27.01.2009 2:49, Мих

And I have all so died (((Two males remained and those in St. Petersburg for a long time)

27.01.2009 8:32, DmitryBurkow

Feanor: It's too warm. In winter, they lose their appetite and starve to death. I have so 3 pieces fell into hibernation, one died, two here 3 days ago pulled out a long light day. But now they eat... I would like this smile.gif
If the empusa is dormant and does not eat flies, you can give it a fruit fly on a wire. In hibernation, their grip on their paws weakens and they simply cannot catch a fly. And if they get caught, they throw them almost immediately. But drosophila is caught and eaten, although not at the first attempt. Such a meotdom can save them from starvation in winter, but you still need to "wake up"as soon as possible.

02.02.2009 12:08, 4upakabra

There are Sphodromntiss and Rhomboders. Peter. In the ACU(264333021) .

03.02.2009 21:38, guest: лидия

buy an African or common praying mantis! =)
my address:Lida1155@yandex.ru

PS buy in Moscow in the area of Lyublino, Kuzminki, Maryino...do mantises often eat?

06.02.2009 19:59, Мих

every 2-3 days

06.02.2009 20:01, Мих

so maybe it's better to hibernate them?

07.02.2009 22:55, DmitryBurkow

Hibernation - this is necessary to put in the refrigerator. It's kind of scary.

09.02.2009 16:07, Мих

and outside the window? between frames, for example.

11.02.2009 6:01, DmitryBurkow

So our winter is not the same as in Astrakhan, they will freeze.

13.02.2009 22:42, Феанор

I wonder if empusa can be fed with leatherworm larvae. Are they not harmful?
And it's a pity, meat is wasted in vain wink.gif

13.02.2009 23:14, Мих

Uhh I would these kozheedov....

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