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06.08.2011 18:01, vasiliy-feoktistov

vasiliy-feoktistov,I don't want to argue with you,but everywhere I read that the average wine hawk moth gives a second generation in favorable years

I do not proceed from what I have read somewhere, but from my own experience: it does not give us a second generation: it is quite possible to go further south. The butterfly is very common in the Moscow region and has never seen the second generation in our country. Yes ,and it was already" released " with a vengeance: at the earliest in November it was released.

08.08.2011 20:34, Коллекционер

today I tried to pair swallowtails, it seems to have turned out, but somehow they are fast, can I try again?and then how to get eggs from the female?

08.08.2011 20:38, Коллекционер

The Macroglossum stellatarum caterpillar pupated a week ago and still has no color! (her integuments are transparent, only the places of the folds of the abdomen have become dark)
is this normal? can it be related to the fact that it is in a glass jar

08.08.2011 20:38, Бабочник

yes, and do not hesitate to study the site (C)

08.08.2011 21:36, Коллекционер

They don't let me sit at the computer teapot.gif

This post was edited by Collector-08.08.2011 21: 48

08.08.2011 23:45, okoem

I do not proceed from what I read somewhere, but from my own experience: it does not give us the second generation:....... And it has already been" released " with interest: it was released at the earliest in November.

So "in November" - this is in fact the second generation. smile.gif Obtained under artificial conditions.

09.08.2011 5:21, vasiliy-feoktistov

So "in November" - this is in fact the second generation. smile.gif Obtained under artificial conditions.

Pupated as always: in early August. In any case, too long lay "before the butterfly". I doubt that this is the second generation.
Hyles galii also collected caterpillars from us in early July and butterflies in early August. This is definitely the second generation.

09.08.2011 12:32, okoem

Pupated as always: in early August. In any case, too long lay "before the butterfly". I doubt that this is the second generation.

Then I agree. Not the second one.
I have some local species that come out in November and December (from females collected in September-October) - it is not known which generations are counted...

10.08.2011 14:32, KingSnake

Hello! I have a few questions, but don't kick me too hard if I ask you something stupid - I'm not an entomologist.

1. Today, on my way to work, I met a woodworm caterpillar crawling across the road. I understand she decided to pupate? What conditions does she need to create at home?
2. Somewhere about a week ago, I pupated 4 harpy caterpillars. How can they create wintering conditions? Will it be enough just to put it in the refrigerator?
3. Now I have a swallowtail caterpillar. What conditions does it need for pupation and wintering?

This post was edited by KingSnake - 10.08.2011 14: 33

13.08.2011 1:33, Romik

Pupated as always: in early August. In any case, too long lay "before the butterfly". I doubt that this is the second generation.
Hyles galii also collected caterpillars from us in early July and butterflies in early August. This is definitely the second generation.


If you come across the August caterpillars of the wine hawk moth in nature, then this is probably the second generation.
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13.08.2011 1:45, Romik

Hello! I have a few questions, but don't kick me too hard if I ask you something stupid - I'm not an entomologist.

1. Today, on my way to work, I met a woodworm caterpillar crawling across the road. I understand she decided to pupate? What conditions does she need to create at home?
2. Somewhere about a week ago, I pupated 4 harpy caterpillars. How can they create wintering conditions? Will it be enough just to put it in the refrigerator?
3. Now I have a swallowtail caterpillar. What conditions does it need for pupation and wintering?

1. Plant it in a jar of sawdust, for example. There she will make a soft cocoon and spend the winter in it. Sawdust should sometimes be moistened.
2. Yes, just put it in the refrigerator, in a jar with moss (sawdust). Sawdust (moss) should be moistened at least once every 2 weeks. Just don't put it in the freezer smile.gif
3. Swallowtails usually pupate directly on the branch of the food plant. If you want the pupa to hibernate, put it in the refrigerator 1-2 days after pupation. But there is no full guarantee. Development may begin and the butterfly will be born in the refrigerator lol.gif

13.08.2011 5:36, vasiliy-feoktistov

If you come across the August caterpillars of the wine hawk moth in nature, then this is probably the second generation.

He flies with us from May to July (definitely the first generation), and comes out in artificial conditions already wrote when. There is no second, viable generation here. The pupa should spend the winter in nature. And the species is not a migrant as far as I know (the second generation of hawkmoth is usually given by migrating species). In the south of the range, however, I do not exclude the second generation, and the Moscow region is far from the south.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 13.08.2011 06: 00
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13.08.2011 10:35, Sergey Rybalkin

1. Plant it in a jar of sawdust, for example. There she will make a soft cocoon and spend the winter in it. Sawdust should sometimes be moistened.
2. Yes, just put it in the refrigerator, in a jar with moss (sawdust). Sawdust (moss) should be moistened at least once every 2 weeks. Just don't put it in the freezer smile.gif
3. Swallowtails usually pupate directly on the branch of the food plant. If you want the pupa to hibernate, put it in the refrigerator 1-2 days after pupation. But there is no full guarantee. Development may begin and the butterfly will be born in the refrigerator lol.gif


No, in August, the caterpillars are adults of the average wine type, this is exactly what happened from the first generation. They will make pupae in August and the pupae will spend the winter, and on June 5-10, at least we will have butterflies...
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13.08.2011 10:37, Sergey Rybalkin

Responded to the wrong message, the reply was not addressed to Romik

13.08.2011 13:56, Romik

I myself used to think that the average wine hawk gives one generation. That's what it means, literary cliches wall.gif
But a lot depends on the climate. In Belarus (Gomel region), the average annual temperature is slightly higher than in Moscow (+6.2 and 5.8 degrees Celsius). accordingly). At the same time, it is stable for 2 generations per year. Caterpillars can be found even in September. And bedstraw and euphorbia, those and 3 generations can give.

Here are my notes this year on home breeding of wine hawkmoth:

27.05.2011 female pupation
28.05.2011 male
pupation 30.05.2011 mating
01-04. 06. 2011 egg laying
4-9. 06. 2011 caterpillar release
27.06.2011 pupation of the first caterpillars 20.07.2011 release of
the first butterflies

And at the end of July, almost fresh specimens also arrived at the light.

13.08.2011 16:17, Бабистр

Good evening! In continuation of the discussion about the wine hawk moth... Can linden trees produce a second generation? Since July 15, the pupa has been lying down, is there any chance of a butterfly appearing in the coming days? confused.gif

13.08.2011 20:45, Sergey Rybalkin

Linden, the second generation does not happen, even in literature, but it has a very long history. At the end of May, I caught fresh fish and in mid-July. You seem to have a pupa of May butterflies lying down, and those caterpillars that will now pupate will fly out at the end of June.


I also have swallowtail pupae lying for almost a month, but they don't want to go out, probably they are still going to winter...
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15.08.2011 15:30, Sergey Rybalkin

Please tell me what to feed the caterpillar of Pericallia matronula?

15.08.2011 16:25, Sergey Rybalkin

What conditions should the caterpillar of Pericallia matronula create for wintering?

15.08.2011 21:21, okoem

Please tell me what to feed the caterpillar of Pericallia matronula?

http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/i....html#matronula

15.08.2011 21:22, Коллекционер

and how do I figure out how many generations gives milkweed hawk moth in my city,
now there are pupae relatively old, I'm afraid they will come out and it will be cold, young (I give 70% that for wintering) and caterpillars 100% for wintering

16.08.2011 2:46, AGG

pliz help! I feed 50 pieces of Macrothylacia rubi. questions: does he have a caterpillar wintering? what conditions do you need to create?
While I'm here.... 10 pieces of Charax Yacius pupae from Turkey + swallowtails and hawkmoth - collected in late June and early July. what conditions do they need and when will they be issued?

This post was edited by AGG - 08/16/2011 02: 49

16.08.2011 12:03, Бабочник

What conditions should the caterpillar of Pericallia matronula create for wintering?

In the topic about breeding, I gave methods of wintering in the garden, in the pit. Bears can also be placed in paper egg boxes. The best way (if the mountains are not far away) is in a gravel scree. It is possible that you can make an artificial slide out of gravel - I didn't try it (as unnecessary).
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16.08.2011 13:01, Pliss A

Hello!

Tell me how to properly store the pupae of diaries, for example swallowtail. Put it on cotton wool in containers or hang it (how to do this)?

16.08.2011 23:17, Коллекционер

Hello!

Tell me how to properly store the pupae of diaries, for example swallowtail. Put it on cotton wool in containers or hang it (how to do this)?

I hung up, 99% came out ( URL #989)

This post was edited by Collector - 08/16/2011 23: 18

18.08.2011 16:07, Olleg12

thank you for the question,but how to take care of them.I read and reread the forum, but I just don't remember.I remember that time must pass and that's all,but I don't remember what kind of weather,in the sun or in the shade, you need to keep your eggs.

18.08.2011 17:09, okoem

I read and reread the forum, but I just don't remember.

If you don't remember, you can read it again.
Take care of - feed. Keep out of the sun.

18.08.2011 19:54, Коллекционер

thank you for the question,but how to take care of them.I read and reread the forum, but I just don't remember.I remember that time must pass and that's all,but I don't remember what kind of weather,in the sun or in the shade, you need to keep your eggs.

I had shadows hanging in the floor, a cup of water in the aquarium

23.08.2011 10:37, Pliss A

Sorry, but what is the best way to get the machaon imago out and how will it be more convenient for butterflies to hatch?

23.08.2011 21:00, Коллекционер

my messages were coming out and being dealt with

24.08.2011 19:01, yizzz

My daughter brought beautiful caterpillars. Determined that swallowtails. Fed as read here. Today one pupated, the second almost. Can you tell me if the butterflies will hatch this year or if they will spend the winter as pupae until spring?

24.08.2011 19:28, okoem

Sorry, but what is the best way to get the machaon imago out and how will it be more convenient for butterflies to hatch?

Alternatively: put them in a cardboard box, tighten the mesh on top.

Can you tell me if the butterflies will hatch this year or if they will spend the winter as pupae until spring?

If you keep it warm, then this one.

This post was edited by okoem - 24.08.2011 19: 30

27.08.2011 9:15, Olleg12

The cabbage patch laid its eggs on the cabbage.I dug up the cabbage with its roots and put it in water,and the jar with this cabbage in the shade.What's next?How long before the tracks arrive?What to do so that they don't run away.The fact is that after looking closely, I found a lot of eggs there, but I didn't put everything in the jar.

27.08.2011 10:18, okoem

The cabbage patch laid its eggs on the cabbage.I dug up the cabbage with its roots and put it in water,and the jar with this cabbage in the shade.What's next?How long before the tracks arrive?What to do so that they don't run away.The fact is that after looking closely, I found a lot of eggs there, but I didn't put everything in the jar.

The tracks will come out in about five days.
Cut off the leaves that are with the eggs, and place them in a cage with a forage plant (not necessarily cabbage). The cage is made from a plastic bottle in five minutes, as I have already told you. http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1195290

This is what the cages look like
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This post was edited by okoem - 08/27/2011 10: 30

27.08.2011 13:41, Olleg12

and what if there are a lot of them there and it's easier to put all the cabbage somewhere?

27.08.2011 15:09, okoem

and what if there are a lot of them there and it's easier to put all the cabbage somewhere?
Well, put all the cabbage in, since it's easier. What's the question?

02.09.2011 11:41, Svetlana1973

Tell me how long to wait for the butterfly http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.p...tola_Tripartita Pupated 28 days ago. Is it necessary to simulate wintering? The same questions about the bedstraw hawk moth. Pupated 26 days ago. Both are lying in wet sawdust, showing signs of life.
And on the pupae of mother-of-pearl (I won't say the exact type, but a trifle from the Arkhangelsk region). The trinity has been hanging on the blades of grass for a month now. Maybe there's nothing to wait for?

06.09.2011 7:52, Svetlana1973

Well, I did not wait for an answer, so I inform you: Abrostola tripartita was born this Sunday, i.e. exactly one month after pupation. No winter quarters. Charming shy fluffy ball. shuffle.gif Waiting for hawk moth. I still don't know if the pupa needs to spend the winter, because different sources have completely different information. wall.gif
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06.09.2011 19:18, okoem

I do this. I keep the pupae warm until the onset of cold weather. If you did not come out before the cold weather, I put it in a cold place for wintering.
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09.09.2011 13:03, Olleg12

I have cabbage tracks.Some of them are already quite large(somewhere up to 5 cm in length.I put a wooden stick in the jar,but not one did not pupate there are 4 of them in a 2L jar.What is the reason?

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