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30.12.2011 23:02, Коллекционер

This kind of hawk moth is just so crazy: in winter it can easily come out in artificial conditions.

so right now it's winter, why don't they hatch?

30.12.2011 23:59, Hierophis

In my experience, you just need to wait. There are butterflies that hatch without necessarily chilling, and hawkmoth seems to be one of them. Perhaps there are species that only hatch after cooling. And there are butterflies in which the diapause is used to time, so the pupa should lie approx. 2 years, and it lies, regardless of the presence of cooling! Usually the hawk moth hatched at the end of January, I bred macroglossums, convolvulus, Euphorbiaceae, without cooling.
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13.01.2012 22:25, Коллекционер

hooray!!! 2 days ago khokhlatka pervaya vavelas

30.01.2012 6:42, Enclave

Gentlemen, here's the deal I decided to bring out a few tropical butterflies-ordered pupae, spent a lot of money on equipment-pupae mostly without tails tried to make from sugar syrup and cotton wool nifiga does not work -fall off the thread...
tell me what can be glued to cotton wool or thread without consequences the person who took the pupae says glue the bottom, figs that will come out but damn and from the fact that they fall they do not get better=((

30.01.2012 18:53, Entomon

I tear off a small ball of glue (2-3 mm, and 5 mm is better for the tropics) from the pencil glue, roll the thread into it, and glue the glue ball with the thread to the pupa by the very top of the last segment of the abdominal part, but let the pupa lie down for 2-3 hours so that the glue freezes. And you can hang it. While everyone is alive and well)

03.02.2012 10:30, ALEKSANDER

Do you know where there are cheap terrariums for butterflies or how to make them yourself?I'd appreciate it.

03.02.2012 13:55, Hierophis

For butterflies? For butterflies, it is better to make a frame from bars, for example, from bars 40X40 in size 600X600 mm and 1000 in height - and sheathe it with a grid, with a lower and side door - I did something like that.

03.02.2012 14:08, Musson max

I would suggest an ordinary rodent net (there are different sizes) with a deep bottom (for earth (sand) (for butterflies that pupate in the ground) and pots with forage plants), remove unnecessary rods with wire cutters, leave only the "skeleton" and cover with organza or mesh. From the bottom, the cage will be removed from you and leave a few opening" doors " with Velcro in the grid. And you will have a good cage for caterpillars.

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03.02.2012 19:09, Entomon

Here, I just made it yesterday
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Caterpillar cage, a frame made of plastic tube sticks for balloons. The design is very stable and at the same time not expensive (16 sticks for 3.5 rubles)it remains only to cover the mesh.
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03.02.2012 19:19, Hierophis

Well, here is something like this, only for butterflies you need to make it so that you can not open the top cover, but remove it from the pallet, as Musson max wrote, otherwise the butterflies will fly smile.gifapart

04.02.2012 11:22, Entomon

Well, hang it with the lid down on the wall and that's it!

04.02.2012 12:15, Hierophis

Ta well, how to lay forage plants, and land for pupation, if necessary? Then already louche horizontally, as in the pictures.

05.02.2012 16:47, Igor1962

for example: There are several dozen caterpillars that need to change their food every day , and that they need to be taken by hand every day and transplanted to new branches ? ? and if there are several hundred of them ?

05.02.2012 17:34, Nikolos

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05.02.2012 18:16, okoem

for example: There are several dozen caterpillars that need to change their food every day , and that they need to be taken by hand every day and transplanted to new branches ? ? and if there are several hundred of them ?

Give them fresh food and they will crawl over themselves.

06.02.2012 13:41, Penzyak

Caterpillars of this species are quite common in our country-they love old fruit trees with rot in their hollows, and you can immediately feel the vinegar smell in the populated tree cavities. And once they found a caterpillar in the trunk of a dead pine tree!? Something I have not previously heard that this species can inhabit coniferous trees...

06.02.2012 18:50, Igor1962

good offer -god

06.02.2012 18:50, Igor1962

good offer -god

07.02.2012 7:47, Yakovlev

Oleg
Where does the data about the pine tree come from??? Specify it. So far, only Zeuzera multistrigata has been reported for gymnosperms.

14.02.2012 9:34, Настя98

Hello, I live in the Far North (Komi Republic). In the summer, I found a swallowtail caterpillar on a dill umbrella. After 5 days of active feeding with dill at home, the caterpillar pupated. I knew that for butterflies in our climate conditions, it is necessary to overwinter in the pupal stage. But after 4 months from the pupa, to my surprise, we had a beautiful swallowtail butterfly at home. Can you tell me why this miracle could have happened so quickly? And the second question is how do pupae survive our harsh winters, when the air temperature drops to -40 degrees Celsius and below. Thank you in advance!

14.02.2012 23:37, okoem

after 4 months from the pupa, to my surprise, we had a beautiful swallowtail butterfly at home. Can you tell me why this miracle could have happened so quickly?

This was probably because you kept the chrysalis in a warm place.
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22.02.2012 8:38, komr

Hello! I have been breeding swallowtails for the third year now. Some observations. Moscow region. Lotoshinsky district. Swallowtail in two generations-May and July-August. Caterpillars on the thigh, dill. The appearance of butterflies hatched from eggs and caterpillars of the first generation strictly coincides with the departure of the second, summer generation in nature. The appearance of butterflies from clutches of the second generation occurs in December-January. Some of the pupae were kept at room temperature (25C) and in the light (windowsill), the other part - in the refrigerator at 5C and in the dark. The time spent in the pupal stage of butterflies of the spring - summer generation is 2-3 weeks; summer - spring - 8 months in nature and 4 months (exactly half) at home. How can you explain their departure in January?

22.02.2012 9:20, okoem

How can you explain their departure in January?

Answer:
Some of the pupae were kept at room temperature (25C)

22.02.2012 21:12, komr

Why don't they leave in three weeks, like in the summer? Why do we need these 4 months? And why is there a mass departure? Probably, after all, it's not the temperature that matters.

22.02.2012 21:22, Entomon

Why don't they leave in three weeks, like in the summer? Why do we need these 4 months? And why is there a mass departure? Probably, after all, it's not the temperature that matters.

That is, they were kept warm for all 4 months?

22.02.2012 21:23, okoem

Why don't they leave in three weeks, like in the summer? Why do we need these 4 months? And why is there a mass departure? Probably, after all, it's not the temperature that matters.

It so happens that the caterpillars that developed and pupated in the fall, when kept warm, do not come out immediately, but after several months.
But their simultaneous output is interesting and unusual. Here I do not know what the matter is, but I had such a case - two fatheads of different ages, collected at the same time pupated respectively at different times, but the butterflies came out on the same day. Why did this happen? I don't know. confused.gif

23.02.2012 21:56, Wild Yuri

Small sample size. Probably a random coincidence. There is also a mass exit from a sharp increase in humidity in the room - for example, after rain or spraying the "brood" with a spray gun. The butterflies formed in the pupae are waiting for an" explosion " of humidity... And they come out in one night!
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24.02.2012 8:49, komr

I agree with the small sample size. The number of butterflies that have flown out is 20-35 ex. I completely reject the jump in humidity. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that I have been observing their departure in January for the third year now. This is the system. It would be appropriate to estimate what natural factors are the same for mid-summer and mid-winter.

24.02.2012 14:36, Wild Yuri

I bred parnassius and jaundice. The mass exit of butterflies from pupae began with a sharp increase in humidity in the"brood". I sprayed it from the inside with water, for example... Practice. I don't do any theorizing. When breeding tropical butterflies, a jump in humidity probably does not give a result. In rain forests, it is always the same. smile.gif

26.02.2012 11:17, komr

In 2011, when it was hot in the summer, there was an outbreak of the swallowtail population (Moscow region). I got the impression that the third generation took off in late August-early September (????). What about in Crimea? How many generations are flying there?

26.02.2012 20:07, okoem

In 2011, when it was hot in the summer, there was an outbreak of the swallowtail population (Moscow region). I got the impression that the third generation took off in late August-early September (????). What about in Crimea? How many generations are flying there?

In the Crimea, by mid-summer, the generations are mixed, and both butterflies and caterpillars are found at the same time. Considering that in warm years the Swallowtail flies from mid-April to the end of September, and setting aside 1 month for one generation, we get 5 generations. But in fact, it is less, because in spring and autumn it is cold and the development lasts longer. It is likely that 4 generations may have time to develop.

27.02.2012 7:38, komr

This is interesting-about generations in the Crimea. Thanks! I'll get better: the heat wave in the summer and the outbreak of the population is not in 2011, but in 2010.

29.02.2012 17:15, AGG

A couple of weeks ago, in order to somehow distract myself from the frosty whiteness outside the window, I took several different pupae out of the refrigerator and gradually "defrosted" them. Three days ago, Acronicta rumicis, collected in September, was released. And today, on February 29, the last day of winter, I was given a gift by a swallowtail, collected in the caterpillar stage in mid-June in the vicinity of Kemer (Turkey):
pupa an hour before the release of the butterfly 16: 28 (I apologize for the quality, because the photo was taken through plexiglass in the light of an incandescent lamp)
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there are still two more Charaxes jasius to wait for.

Friends!!! Tomorrow is the first day of spring!!!! jump.gif beer.gif

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29.02.2012 18:01, AGG

I wonder what subspecies of swallowtail lives in Turkey, it differs from ours at least even in the size of the "tails"

29.02.2012 18:22, swerig

I wonder what subspecies of swallowtail lives in Turkey, differs from ours at least even in the size of the "tails"

syriacus
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01.03.2012 9:54, Entomon

Here is a clutch of unpaired silkworm IMG_2723.JPGwhen to transfer it to the heat?

This post was edited by Entomon - 01.03.2012 09: 58

01.03.2012 11:57, okoem

Here is a clutch of unpaired silkworm when to transfer it to the heat?

When there will be something to feed.

01.03.2012 15:52, Entomon

I found some more masonry today. Yesterday's and today's masonry I "disassembled", because in each of them there was a skin-eating larva (hairs were eaten out), drill flour larvae of pink color, below photo: IMG_2738.JPG

09.03.2012 12:57, Lena-28

Good afternoon. In the autumn, my husband found a pupa in the garden, judging by the pictures, a hawk moth. The children put it in a glass jar, in which it safely lay on the windowsill in the kitchen until today. And today he came out of it (pupa). Sorry for the stupid question, because I'm not an entomologist at all, but what to do with it next, where to keep it (there is also a cat and a dog in the house)? How to feed - I already understood after reading the forum. It's still cold outside -5 at night. He's always going somewhere. I put it in a box with strawberry seedlings. Now he's swarming around there. Thank you.

09.03.2012 15:54, Hierophis

Here it was necessary to ask a question in the fall on the forum-what to do with the pupa, so that it does not hatch like a snake, but hatches on time? wink.gif

Write approximately where you are, at night -5, is this the Crimea or some other south? If so, then in three days you can basically throw the hawk moth out on the street, where it will find (you can hope) where to wait until it warms up normally. Only here vseranvo he hatched very early, while his relatives hatch - he will already be an old man-neither fall in love nor marry )))

And if the heat is generally long, then you can put it in the refrigerator on the bottom shelf in a dark box. I had a hawk moth sitting like this for two months.

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