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25.07.2012 13:57, feniks

They must eat dill, they may get sick, so they refuse to eat it

26.07.2012 10:23, guest: cherepahovod

Well, they seem to eat, grow, and shed. They live on the street. Would the riders infect them? I'm afraid of it.".. Maybe it's better to take them to the house?

26.07.2012 12:12, feniks

It is better to go to the house, in addition to riders, there are also birds.

27.07.2012 13:28, guest: cherepahovod

All right, I'll bring it in. True, they only eat umbrellas, they do not eat leaves...

28.07.2012 15:16, Kitty-13

Today I accidentally came across a swallowtail on the road, which turned out to be a female. In the course of unpacking, I got 2 eggs. Is there a way to get more? I have long wanted to try to grow swallowtails, but I have never met caterpillars in the Moscow region, so I want to get as many eggs as possible

29.07.2012 8:34, Svetlana1973

Uh-huh... Today, the peacock's eye daytime butterflies started coming out .3 have already come out, and all three do not spread their wings... frown.gif They ate normally and pupated without any problems. The pupal stage is about 2 weeks old. They have been hanging for almost 4 hours and no improvements have been made. What could be the reason? wall.gif

29.07.2012 8:40, Svetlana1973

And on scoops a question. The pupa has been sitting on wet sawdust for 11 years (!!) months. It shows signs of life. I'm getting impatient, ches-slovo. So I want to know what kind of miracle will come outwall.gif, What is the maximum time limit, how much longer to wait?
By the hawk moth. In the past, Golu was cocooned right on the surface. B / w 9 months left safely. This year, I took one caterpillar, and it chose to pupate by burrowing in wet sawdust. Leave it there, or is it better to extract it?

29.07.2012 15:05, Helen0210

And on scoops a question. The pupa has been sitting on wet sawdust for 11 years (!!) months. It shows signs of life. I'm getting impatient, ches-slovo. So I want to know what kind of miracle will come outwall.gif, What is the maximum time limit, how much longer to wait?


A similar situation - the pupa of the bear Kaya has been lying for almost 2 months...((

30.07.2012 6:22, guest: Вася

can you tell me what size the swallowtail caterpillars are at the last stage?

31.07.2012 8:52, cherepahovod

Please tell me...
If my swallowtail caterpillars pupate in early-mid-August, then they should be immediately placed in the cold, or they will not hatch until the end of August? It's just that I'm not in Surgut right now, and I have to go to Surgut on August 20, and 1 more transfer by bus. Or is it better not to send pupae for wintering, but to bring out butterflies from them, mate, get eggs from them and raise caterpillars? And then, just in time for the end of autumn, they will pupate, and I will send them to winter quarters. What's the best way? Or maybe your option. This is my first time dealing with swallowtails, so I'm waiting for any response!

31.07.2012 14:34, cherepahovod

I'm really looking forward to hearing from you!!!!! It seems that one caterpillar is going to pupate, it does not eat, constantly runs and is already quite large.

31.07.2012 16:53, okoem

Today I accidentally came across a swallowtail on the road, which turned out to be a female. In the course of unpacking, I got 2 eggs. Is there a way to get more?

Catch a female, put her in a cage with a feeding plant, and she may lay eggs.

The pupa has been sitting on wet sawdust for 11 years (!!) months. It shows signs of life. I'm getting impatient, ches-slovo. So I want to know what kind of miracle will come outwall.gif, What is the maximum time limit, how much longer to wait?

Scoop pupae can lie for up to two years, according to my observations. In some butterflies, pupae can lie for up to 6 years.

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31.07.2012 17:16, Euchloron

Please tell me...
If my swallowtail caterpillars pupate in early-mid-August, then they should be immediately placed in the cold, or they will not hatch until the end of August? It's just that I'm not in Surgut right now, and I have to go to Surgut on August 20, and 1 more transfer by bus. Or is it better not to send pupae for wintering, but to bring out butterflies from them, mate, get eggs from them and raise caterpillars? And then, just in time for the end of autumn, they will pupate, and I will send them to winter quarters. What's the best way? Or maybe your option. This is my first time dealing with swallowtails, so I'm waiting for any response!

In them, this is controlled by the photoperiod and temperature at the caterpillar stage. If the pupae are diapausal, then even in the heat they will not hatch until at least December. And if they are not in diapause, then in the cold they will still develop and, if it is too cold, they will die or turn out to be freaks.

01.08.2012 6:08, cherepahovod

All clear, thank you!

01.08.2012 6:10, cherepahovod

And as I understand it, the diapausing pupae of the swallowtail should be yellow-brown in color?

01.08.2012 13:39, Helen0210

And as I understand it, the diapausing pupae of the swallowtail should be yellow-brown in color?

Not obligatory. At least I had brown pupae that were born in 9 days.

01.08.2012 13:55, cherepahovod

Clear. Well, in general, if the pupae do not hibernate, then in any case they will come out in 10 days, and if they do, they will not come out even in the heat until winter. Do I understand correctly?

02.08.2012 13:17, Helen0210

Clear. Well, in general, if the pupae do not hibernate, then in any case they will come out in 10 days, and if they do, they will not come out even in the heat until winter. Do I understand correctly?


Yes. But if it is very warm and light, they can come out before winter.

02.08.2012 13:27, cherepahovod

Well, at least until the end of August, I hope they won't come out.

02.08.2012 16:57, Leilamrf

Maybe they don't have enough water?

02.08.2012 16:59, Leilamrf

Or does the plastic release something toxic in the heat that they react to? Try glass jars. Cover the top with gauze.

02.08.2012 17:23, kovpikuha

Good evening to all=) I found today on the asphalt caterpillar sagittarius maple (Acronicta aceris). There were no plants nearby. I tried feeding her maple, chestnut, and poplar leaves. She doesn't eat, just crawls on the jar. I read on the Internet that moths pupate in the ground. So I poured her a layer of earth, but it's useless (((What to do with it, please tell me!picture: 0_32ce8_48144538_L.jpg

This post was edited by kovpikuha - 02.08.2012 18: 52

02.08.2012 21:25, Grigory Grigoryev

Throw in a jar of twigs with leaves. It is among them and will weave a fairly dense cocoon, inside which it will pupate.

09.08.2012 20:36, Entomon

Can you tell me how Carrion caterpillars relate to humidity?

10.08.2012 12:01, cherepahovod

In general, humidity is contraindicated for all caterpillars, and this also applies to podalirium.
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16.08.2012 21:44, Sergey Rybalkin

In early July, I collected a lot of caterpillars of the Central Asian bear Arctia intercalaris in the Northern Tien Shan. They pupated, and at the end of July the butterflies came out. There were a lot of defective ones, and I didn't notice them, they mated, laid eggs, and now I'm raising second-instar caterpillars.
The question is whether they need diapause, I suspect that caterpillars hibernate. If diapause is not done, will they pupate and will the butterflies come out?
I've got fifty of them, I'm sorry to ruin them. Although while it's warm, let them eat and grow, but what's next?

27.08.2012 5:21, Svetlana1973

  
Scoop pupae can lie for up to two years, according to my observations. In some butterflies, pupae can lie for up to 6 years.

O-o-o-o... Okay, so we'll wait weep.gif
Brazhnikov extracted from the ground. Still, there has already been a positive experience, and it is in keeping pupae on a wet surface. I won't experiment. smile.gif

30.08.2012 22:17, miss VI

In mid-August, I found a swallowtail caterpillar.and today she became a pupa.but I do not know what temperature it needs.and this pupa is generally summer or winter?that is, it will spend the winter??Then where should I keep her?I live in apartment

31.08.2012 11:43, Helen0210

Most often, overwintering (ranging) pupae are brown in color. If the pupa moves reluctantly or does not move at all after a few days, it overwinters. For normal wintering, the pupa can be cut (only after a couple of days, when it hardens) from a twig (or where it pupated), put on cotton wool, and in the refrigerator. It is desirable that the transition from high to low temperature was gradual - for this you can leave it on the balcony at night, and early in the morning, while it is cool, put it in the cold. Never put it in the freezer!
And in non-forming pupae, after about 9 days, the color may change slightly, and the wing pattern may appear.
Personal experience wink.gif

31.08.2012 20:46, miss VI

my pupa is green, but it moves reluctantly.now I keep it on the balcony.thank you for the information)

31.08.2012 20:53, miss VI

but I'm afraid if this pupa is summer, then it will become a butterfly at the end of September.I think then the weather will not be the best for her.

03.09.2012 11:47, Helen0210

Probably not. In nature, everything is regulated)

06.09.2012 15:52, Entomon

http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=186837&st=250

18.09.2012 13:15, Cartman86

Good afternoon. The questions are as follows: did the gooseberries of the pine hawk moth pupate-are they lying in a cage on gauze(in klodovka)-do they need to be hung up or can they be left lying down?Do I need to put it in the refrigerator for 3 months? How should pupae lie / hang to the wall / floor with their "back"or wings and proboscis? There is a gooseneck swallowtail, about 5 cm long-I gave it dill.The question of swallowtail is the same as that of hawkmoth. And the general question for all pupae - is klodovka a suitable place or should there be a bright place?

18.09.2012 15:15, Cartman86

Can the Helen0210 message
be applied to my questions?

18.09.2012 18:17, Nicetas

Tell me who knows - at what stage do Lasicampa qercus caterpillars hibernate? And is it possible to do without wintering at home, i.e. feed the caterpillars before pupation?

19.09.2012 13:45, Helen0210

Good afternoon. The questions are as follows: did the gooseberries of the pine hawk moth pupate-are they lying in a cage on gauze(in klodovka)-do they need to be hung up or can they be left lying down?Do I need to put it in the refrigerator for 3 months? How should pupae lie / hang to the wall / floor with their "back"or wings and proboscis? There is a gooseneck swallowtail, about 5 cm long-I gave it dill.The question of swallowtail is the same as that of hawkmoth. And the general question for all pupae - is klodovka a suitable place or should there be a bright place?


If the pupa initially did not "hang" itself, then you do not need to do anything additional - let it lie as it lay. Light does not play a special role in wintering pupae, but the temperature should be lower than in the apartment. (It can be 5-6 degrees, but not minus).

19.09.2012 14:11, Cartman86

Helen0210, refrigerator temperature 2-3 gr. suitable? and will it not hurt the pupa if I remove it from the "Fasteners"in order to put it in the refrigerator? This is all I'm more interested in about the swallowtail. I never bothered with hawkmoth-they always lay at room temperature and were displayed perfectly-dead.heads, bedstraw, harpy pupa.

20.09.2012 14:51, Василий пенза

Hello, I have several raspberry silkworm caterpillars living on my balcony, I collected adult specimens in August, I feed them stably. but now they've stopped eating. and then they bury themselves in the ground, then they get out again. what conditions should they create for them to spend the winter? after all, they, as far as I understand, winter in the form of caterpillars (I collected butterflies in April and May).? or do they need to stay warm so that the butterflies come out in late autumn (if this is possible)? Thank you very much.

20.09.2012 19:54, AGG

Hello, I have several raspberry silkworm caterpillars living on my balcony, I collected adult specimens in August, I feed them stably. but now they've stopped eating. and then they bury themselves in the ground, then they get out again. what conditions should they create for them to spend the winter? after all, they, as far as I understand, winter in the form of caterpillars (I collected butterflies in April and May).? or do they need to stay warm so that the butterflies come out in late autumn (if this is possible)? Thank you very much.

let them still sit on the balcony. I poured my own fine expanded clay+sand in which they wintered. at the onset of winter-3-5 moved to the refrigerator in the fruit bowl, where they lay all winter. in the spring, I gradually thawed out-I moved the container to various places at home with a temperature set of ~ 5 degrees for 3-5 days before the street temperature. they woke up - ran around - pupated - hatched (especially massively on May 9, making me a birthday present)

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