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Шастик, 04.06.2006 16:50

One cheapskate gave me 3 tracks .I want to bring all three of them out so that not one of them will die!!!!!!!!Give me some tips:what conditions to create for them;what is the best way to feed them????????? confused.gif

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04.06.2006 17:42, andr_mih

The conditions are the same as for all caterpillars: so that it is not humid, warm but not in direct sunlight. Ideally-a gauze cage. A narrow-necked (so as not to drown) bottle for pear branches reaching to the bottom of the cage (find out exactly from the tightwad what he fed them, and continue the same). Drink 100 gr. for the health of the cheapskate, maybe all the caterpillars will be alive and well. They pupate right on the branch in a terribly dense cocoon, and how they get out without teeth is beyond me. I don't know if they need diapause.

04.06.2006 20:45, RippeR

You'll answer for the cheapskate, you scoundrel! Do you understand for a neshchastnuyu plum tail, of which the sea flies to him 3 caterpillars Peacock-eyed pear is not enough! It would be better not to give anything frown.gifat all

05.06.2006 9:09, Nilson

Apparently, the larval stages of some fabulous saturnia "puri" are worth it to have such an emotional conversation smile.gif

05.06.2006 13:25, Асаф

You can feed Saturnia puri with leaves of walnut, blackthorn and pear! jump.gif

05.06.2006 14:42, RippeR

this means saturnia pyri. And the fight is not so great, just gave a good look to almost Nashar, and he is also happy here!

07.06.2006 12:19, Guest

this means saturnia pyri. And the fight is not so great, just gave a good look to almost Nashar, and he is also happy here!

I don't do anything here at all!!!1

07.06.2006 14:06, RippeR

Well, yes, and who wrote, after he was given the caterpillars of peacock eyes, tightwad!?

07.06.2006 15:23, Tigran Oganesov

All disassembly in the personal account. Shastik, be careful with your expressions.
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13.06.2006 16:02, Dracus

While I was on vacation in Anapa, I saw two" types " of saturnia caterpillars (both large, about 12 cm). Some came across less often-dirty green, with small grayish warts, on which there were long club-shaped hairs (from one of these I once tried to bring out a butterfly - it didn't hatch...). Others I saw more often, they were rich bright green tsyeta, with large blue spiked warts without any hairs - in general, just like cecropia caterpillars, but with single-colored warts. Both types ate on sweet cherries. Which of the types belonged to grusheva, and who in this case belonged to the other type? Or is it something like phases of the same kind?

13.06.2006 17:40, RippeR

if they are the same size and the colors are different, then the types are different. The second type belongs to the pear type, which has blue warts (piri has blue warts in the last stages). The first tracks are not prestovlyayuya.. Maybe pavonia, but that caterpillar should have less. In principle, peary has swamp-colored caterpillars with blue warts before pupation..

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13.06.2006 19:40, Tigran Oganesov

Dirty green and yellowish (as in the photo) IMHO are sent for pupation.

19.06.2006 22:42, taler

May they die!From hunger!!!He went to Moscow for a long lol.giftime

20.06.2006 0:33, RippeR

I don't even know if he took them with him, or gave them to a friend for maintenance, in any case, 2 are already dead.. Next year there will be so many of these caterpillars that I don't even know what country he will go to to escape
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20.06.2006 12:52, taler

to RippeR:
Well from imago Puri I would not refuse rolleyes.gif

20.06.2006 15:44, RippeR

I understand, but it's difficult to do this by mail. in general, let's see when they hatch.

23.07.2007 12:20, Bugdesign

Tell me, who has already managed to get out of the cocoon?

How long does the cocoon stage take?



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23.07.2007 13:12, RippeR

they hibernate.. They come out next year around April, sort of. I didn't bring it out myself, but they told me about it. Now I keep 1 pupa. I'll put it in the refrigerator for the winter smile.gif

25.07.2007 8:08, Шастик

I think that in May, in the middle, although if at home then the Ripper is right.And if I didn't put it in the refrigerator,I guess why take the risk. confused.gif

01.08.2008 12:06, guest: Анна

if they are the same size and the colors are different, then the types are different. The second type belongs to the pear type, which has blue warts (piri has blue warts in the last stages). The first tracks are not prestovlyayuya.. Maybe pavonia, but that caterpillar should have less. In principle, peary has swamp-colored caterpillars with blue warts before pupation..



Hello there!!!
Here is exactly the same goose as you have in the photo, my husband and I found yesterday, we decided to show it to my mother, so we left it at home until today... But today... Today, she had already braided herself with silk threads. In the morning I left, it still rustled ))) in the process of making your cocoon. Yesterday I brought her some twigs from the tree where we found her. It was on these very twigs that she settled, wrapped in leaves.
Please tell me, is it possible to leave it at home until the birth of a butterfly? Or is it better to carry her to that tree in this state (although I'm not sure that she fell from it, since we have a strong wind)? If possible, can you tell me what to do with it now, how to take care of it, where to put it, in order to provide it with conditions for a normal transformation?)))

Thank you in advance ))

Anna. Gelendzhik.

01.08.2008 13:08, omar

There is nothing complicated. Do not touch or disturb the caterpillar. After she has pupated inside her cocoon, place the cocoon on the bottom of the refrigerator for the winter. At the end of April, take it out, put it in a jar with twigs inside and wait for the butterfly. Twigs are needed so that the butterfly can hang down its back and grow wings.

01.08.2008 15:16, Guest

There is nothing complicated. Do not touch or disturb the caterpillar. After she has pupated inside her cocoon, place the cocoon on the bottom of the refrigerator for the winter. At the end of April, take it out, put it in a jar with twigs inside and wait for the butterfly. Twigs are needed so that the butterfly can hang down its back and grow wings.




Oh, thank you so much!!!
I certainly don't know what to do with it later... but I really want to sing to her to be born, and with my own eyes to see how such a beauty is born!!!
I read an article here that it should have been put in a cardboard box with crumpled cardboard (like from under light bulbs), but I didn't do anything like that... I'm worried. And how long does the pupation process take? shuffle.gif

02.08.2008 10:24, El Cazador

Depending on the external environment. You, in Gelendzhik, will fully pupate in five days, it will be transportable.

02.08.2008 10:48, Raptor

I don't even know if he took them with him, or gave them to a friend for maintenance, in any case, 2 are already dead.. Next year there will be so many of these caterpillars that I don't even know what country he will go to to escape
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Give it to me!!give it to me!!!Give me just one!I'll buy it!money is not a problem!the problem is in the geographical location! mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif

02.08.2008 10:49, Raptor

What about sushona big peacock eyes?

02.08.2008 23:10, Hemaris

What are you arguing about? There are cocoons, there are dry butterflies. To whom, what, and how much?

04.08.2008 4:41, Raptor

me, me, me mol.gif mol.gif mol.gifat least one butterfly, at least one cocoon, for starters.....but how to deliver?how far is the chrysalis lying?

04.08.2008 8:55, RippeR

the pupa will lie down until next spring.
And where to deliver that?
In general, Hemaris will arrange everything by mail )

04.08.2008 11:19, solnyshko a

Depending on the external environment. You, in Gelendzhik, will fully pupate in five days, it will be transportable.

Hello again!!!
I'll probably torture you all here ))) The cocoon of my gosling began to darken... yesterday, there were still slight rustling sounds inside ))) I had a few questions over the weekend:1. How do I know for sure that she's already fully pupated?
2. Why put it in the refrigerator?
3. Is it always done after pupation? Or it can spend the winter and so, for example, on the balcony?
4. What is diapause and how is it affected by light?
5. Accordingly, do I need to create darkness?
6. will it be too cold/humid in the refrigerator?

And also a huge request: please advise me to read the thread!!! And even better, a link to useful literature )))

I will be sooo grateful!!

04.08.2008 12:23, omar

Don't touch it at all just yet. When autumn comes, you can put it in the refrigerator, or you can also put it on the balcony - it's all right, you don't have cold winters in Gelendzhik. But then be vigilant - a strong frost, which sometimes happens to you (not every winter), can destroy it. Darkness and light have little effect on the pupa, which is located in a dense light-proof cocoon. Read it? Type Saturnia pyri in any search engine and read it. In general, the butterfly is not difficult to cultivate. Everything should work out for you. You're the sun
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04.08.2008 13:34, solnyshko a

Don't touch it at all just yet. When autumn comes, you can put it in the refrigerator, or you can also put it on the balcony - it's all right, you don't have cold winters in Gelendzhik. But then be vigilant - a strong frost, which sometimes happens to you (not every winter), can destroy it. Darkness and light have little effect on the pupa, which is located in a dense light-proof cocoon. Read it? Type Saturnia pyri in any search engine and read it. In general, the butterfly is not difficult to cultivate. Everything should work out for you. You're the sun
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For the Sun-thank you shuffle.gif
And our winters are not really cold, but when the Nordost blows... It's scary to leave the house!!!! My pupa is now generally in the kitchen lying on the windowsill along with the branches on which she found shelter. I don't touch it at all! I don't even move it! Yesterday I arrived from Krasnodar, listened-still moving... Maybe it's in a box what to put? I read that it is necessary to maintain a definitely constant humidity... That sphagnum moss contributes to this, sprinkled with water... Oh, in general, as a beginner, a lot of things are not clear to me, unknown, curious and very emotional )))) It's a living thing, and I want to keep it safe, since it just happened to be in my house...
Articles I different read, here is and Forum otakovyvyyyu now!!! But I haven't seen any literature on breeding, courtship, etc.yet. I want to know what factors (temperature, humidity, light, location)are involved how do butterflies affect the development of the future )))

04.08.2008 13:45, RippeR

1. Why?
2. Put it in the refrigerator so that the conditions for the pupa are as similar as possible to natural ones. I.e., so that when the cold weather comes, the pupa will overwinter well, entering diapause.
3. I wintered and on the balcony, and then successfully hatched. Put in the refrigerator not after pupation, but during the onset of cold weather on the street. I kept it in the light, on the balcony, even before the onset of cold weather and everything is fine!
4. Diapause - slowing down the processes of vital activity in a living organism in order to survive a certain stage, such as winter, drought, etc. At the same time, the body does not need high temperature, nutrition, etc. Some are affected by light, but the peacock's pupa is not.
5. In this case, no.
6. no. In the refrigerator, normal conditions, as they sometimes keep not only pupae, but also eggs, larvae, etc. The refrigerator is also convenient because you can create an artificial "spring" by pulling the pupa out of the refrigerator earlier, placing it in the heat in the room, as a result of which the butterfly can come out earlier. You can, on the contrary, hold the pupa longer, although sometimes they hatch in the refrigerator when all the deadlines pass, as a result, you can get specimens with an unusual color or small size, and tp

04.08.2008 13:56, RippeR

Excessive humidity can kill the pupa, and lack of moisture can dry out the pupa.. So it is not necessary to excessively moisten, the main thing is that the apartment is not too dry. If the room is ventilated, then everything should be in order.

The pupa and caterpillar can still move in the cocoon, even in the refrigerator. In any case, this is a reliable sign that the caterpillar is alive. You can also check for weight, if you feel heavy, then at least it has not dried up smile.gif

There are millions of factors involved. Of course, these are the most important ones. Direct sunlight should be avoided, otherwise the pupa may simply be baked. with too much humidity, the pupa can rot, dry out from lack, and this can also speed up or slow down its development.. Location is not important-Feng Shui does not work for butterflies smile.gifAnd the temperature may affect the size and color of the butterfly, from extreme cold it may have a whitish pattern, smaller spots, etc.

04.08.2008 14:33, solnyshko a

So how long do Saturnia pyri butterflies live ???
And because of what can the pupa die?

04.08.2008 14:40, solnyshko a

Excessive humidity can kill the pupa, and lack of moisture can dry out the pupa.. So it is not necessary to excessively moisten, the main thing is that the apartment is not too dry. If the room is ventilated, then everything should be in order.

The pupa and caterpillar can still move in the cocoon, even in the refrigerator. In any case, this is a reliable sign that the caterpillar is alive. You can also check for weight, if you feel heavy, then at least it has not dried up smile.gif

There are millions of factors involved. Of course, these are the most important ones. Direct sunlight should be avoided, otherwise the pupa may simply be baked. with too much humidity, the pupa can rot, dry out from lack, and this can also speed up or slow down its development.. Location is not important-Feng Shui does not work for butterflies smile.gifAnd the temperature may affect the size and color of the butterfly, from extreme cold it may have a whitish pattern, smaller spots, etc.

Wow!!! So many interesting things at once!!!! smile.gif
So, in principle, it can continue to be kept on the windowsill??? I have blinds in my kitchen - there is no direct sunlight, the window is open to the window pane. But airability is probably better in the room... and the air conditioner? Probably it is not necessary to settle it where this miracle of technology works??? It doesn't seem to dry (additionally) the air, does it?
I still keep it (my gosling) on twigs, I don't touch it... A whole bunch of them turned out there, but the soil has already dried up... Do I need to change something?

04.08.2008 14:53, Bad Den

For the Sun-thank you shuffle.gif
And our winters are not really cold, but when the Nordost blows... It's scary to leave the house!!!!

And we drink cold beer tongue.gif

04.08.2008 14:58, RippeR

Butterflies of Saturnia live less than a month. Only about a week-3x the fact is that an adult butterfly does not feed.
The pupa can die from anything-heat, cold, light, darkness, discontent, lack of conditions close to natural smile.gifHere it is not possible to predict, you can only create the necessary conditions and see what happens.

04.08.2008 15:01, solnyshko a

Right now??? )))

04.08.2008 15:13, solnyshko a

Butterflies of Saturnia live less than a month. Only about a week-3x the fact is that an adult butterfly does not feed.
The pupa can die from anything-heat, cold, light, darkness, discontent, lack of conditions close to natural smile.gifHere it is not possible to predict, you can only create the necessary conditions and see what happens.

If I haven't killed you with questions yet, I'd like to know as much as possible about proper care and maintenance of Peacock Eyes... Maybe there is literature that you can recommend to read for a beginner? wink.gif

04.08.2008 15:18, RippeR

It's okay! don't worry too much about how to arrange it further - it will arrange it anyway. The main thing is to put it in the refrigerator or on the balcony in time. It is desirable that she has enough space to spread her wings and a twig on which she can climb for this. The fact is that in the spring you can forget or not have time to put in the necessary conditions in time.

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