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26.05.2009 0:30, Aaata

Light can provoke its flight activity, so it is not advisable to turn it on.

26.05.2009 0:51, Egorus

A few years ago, from a caterpillar taken from nature, I bred a male
with a wingspan of 130mm. By the end of the first week of life, he was actively flying around
the room. He died by the end of the second week of life.
Non-feeding butterflies live off the energy stored by the caterpillar.
The formula should work: in a big body, there is a big spirit.


My practice: a little rain and warm weather is great, but heavy rain and cool weather is very good ...bad.


Three times I took out freshly washed females to nature, to places where saturniums were once
observed. So far to no avail. But there are still chances.


At Fabre, (from memory) it was about 2-2. 5 km. (?)

26.05.2009 0:54, Aaata

At Fabre, (from memory) it was about 2-2. 5 km. (?)

No, exactly 10-11km. both on the book and on the Internet.

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26.05.2009 0:56, Egorus

Almost exact size difference

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26.05.2009 1:11, Aaata

The formula should work: in a big body, there is a big spirit.

Well, except in theory… In fact, it is often the opposite, you probably know such examples yourself. As for the butterfly, if its small size reflects a certain disease-this is one thing, but if it is only the result of special conditions of caterpillar development (lack of food, living space–as in your case, etc.), then this is a completely different situation, and in this case "grinding" is only a phenotypic feature, not a specific one. directly related to life expectancy. After all, for a smaller body and the amount of reserves of vital forces is needed less. Small individuals even have advantages in this.

26.05.2009 1:37, Egorus

I won't argue.
Just a few thoughts.
First.This was written about this species. It does not apply to all biological species.
And the second. I have a lot of observations about the world of insects, when larger
specimens of the same species live and survive longer than small ones.

26.05.2009 1:59, Aaata

I won't argue.
Just a few thoughts.
First.This was written about this species. It does not apply to all biological species.
And the second. I have a lot of observations about the world of insects, when larger
specimens of the same species live and survive longer than small ones.

Also not in the order of an argument. Examples from the insect world on this subject can be found both those and others. This suggests that there is no direct correlation between the size of an individual and the average life expectancy of a particular species, as well as the life expectancy of small and large individuals.

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26.05.2009 8:09, solnyshko a

Guys don't argue!!!)))

I report the latest news from my balcony )))

The night passed beautifully and calmly!!! My HANDSOME MAN is alive and well and not even a single hint of shabbiness! tongue.gif

Here are the first photos:

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26.05.2009 9:01, Aaata

The sharpness is not very good. But this is a male, for a female the whiskers are large. So don't get caught out.

26.05.2009 9:06, solnyshko a

The sharpness is not very good. But this is a male, for a female the whiskers are large. So don't get caught out.

Sharpness and really not very - from the phone pictures )))
The fact that the boy is also already understood. But it basically feels good. I think that tomorrow I will be released into the wild, if it doesn't rain again )))

26.05.2009 13:58, Egorus

For solnyshko_a
, it's nice to see and read about the well-being of the hostess and pet.

Judging by the background drawing in the photos, your
phone still has potential. Shoot the butterfly from a longer distance
to get sharp images. A little more light, the stillness of the butterfly and
a smooth "start." Everything will be fine.

26.05.2009 15:09, taler

solnyshko_a my congratulations.
Given a name?Or all the forum will give?
wink.gif Such a handsome man, the son of the forum peoplesmile.gif, And the hostess was worried.

Good luck to him, long days of life and good luck finding a girlfriend.

26.05.2009 21:32, solnyshko a

For solnyshko_a
, it's nice to see and read about the well-being of the hostess and pet.

Judging by the background drawing in the photos, your
phone still has potential. Shoot the butterfly from a longer distance
to get sharp images. A little more light, the stillness of the butterfly and
a smooth "start." Everything will be fine.

And I am very pleased that you write to me with my pet with such attention and care! )))

I have already taken photos on a good camera, taken "on loan" from a good friend ))) I'll post it soon )))

26.05.2009 21:35, solnyshko a

solnyshko_a my congratulations.
Given a name?Or all the forum will give?
wink.gif Such a handsome man, the son of the forum peoplesmile.gif, And the hostess was worried.

Good luck to him, long days of life and good luck finding a girlfriend.

Great wishes!!!!!!

And the hostess was embarrassed all over ))) rolleyes.gif

I didn't mention it... I'm afraid to get too attached. But if you want - let's name it, because you all helped me so much all this time!!!!

26.05.2009 21:39, solnyshko a

He just flew off my balcony a few minutes ago!!!! I've lost it!!!

..Then I found it... on the wall... shuffle.gif

I picked it up and carried it back to the cool and fresh balcony... For some reason, it folded its legs and didn't even try to resist. But on the gauze box, on which I sat all day, I still became legs )))
He spread his sawyere and froze...

I'm worried it's raining again... When should I release it???? I really want him to find a pair for himself, so that he can fly again... even if his life is not long, but still...

I'm worried....

29.05.2009 9:55, solnyshko a

Everything...
I'm releasing it today.The rains seem to have ended....Yes, and it is already very bad for him to sit in prison )))
Spends the night on a masking net on the balcony...

Even my wing was slightly damaged today... Pitifully.

By the way, I wanted to ask. From his belly, from the very end, some brown liquid periodically flows out. What is this?

29.05.2009 10:02, solnyshko a

Here are more photos ))) Already more clear )))

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20.06.2009 11:40, guest: alexdav

Yesterday (19.06) I took a large girl named Saturnia Piri off the office wall, put her in a large box on the balcony, covered her with a refrigerator grate and opened the window for the night. But no one came. During the night, she laid about 60 eggs. Is it possible that she used all her pheromones last night, talked to the guys, and she no longer exuded them on my balcony?
The weather was good, there was no strong wind.

20.06.2009 13:30, Aaata

Fertilized females do not secrete pheromones and males are not attracted. The second time they do not lay eggs and, having completed their mission, soon die. But you have the opportunity to bring out butterflies.
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20.06.2009 14:26, El Cazador

Yesterday (19.06) I took a large girl named Saturnia Piri off the office wall, put her in a large box on the balcony, covered her with a refrigerator grate and opened the window for the night. But no one came. During the night, she laid about 60 eggs. Is it possible that she used all her pheromones last night, talked to the guys, and she no longer exuded them on my balcony?
The weather was good, there was no strong wind.

You have already received a fertilized female. She could not attract anyone, and laid the rest of the eggs, there should be 100-150 of them in total.
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22.06.2009 13:01, Aaata

This was recently discussed in the next topic:"How to get a butterfly out of...?" and exactly about this species.
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24.06.2009 11:21, Aaata

You've got a burly female. Go for the record!

24.06.2009 11:53, Бабочник

200 pieces of et is normal for piri.
Do you sell grena? I would buy.

16.07.2009 1:11, AndrewfromLipetsk

I would also PURCHASE if possible mol.gif

16.07.2009 7:54, Бабочник

neoplod as it turned out...

16.07.2009 19:22, AndrewfromLipetsk

sometimes, unfortunately...frown.gif((
does anyone breed it?

26.08.2009 10:19, Ромикдв

And where in nature does the Saturnia pyri caterpillar pupate? on a branch, on a tree trunk, or on the ground slides and buries ?

08.10.2010 19:56, EuRyAlUs

I have been keeping the S. pyri culture for the fifth year now, and I am studying the ecology of the Saturnidae of western Ukraine. umnik.gif

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21.03.2011 9:52, Martix

EuRyAlUs, here are some pictures! Super))

11.07.2011 22:48, KoliaS.

Hello!
Please tell me if these caterpillars are not poisonous???

01.02.2012 11:15, Entomon

1. Is it possible to feed caterpillars with mulberry/mulberry/ tyutina/mulberry leaves (one plant has its own name in different places)
2. How to prepare the abdomen in adults?

01.02.2012 12:40, Penzyak

AFIGET!!! I have searched this site many times for information on the great pear Saturnia-with almost zero results. And then I see that there is such a page!!
Men have been studying grushevaya in the Penza region and the Volga region for a long time. I REALLY need live cocoons of females of this species - I want to catch local males, get caterpillars and find out the biology of the species in our conditions. In academic circles, it is believed that this species cannot live in the Middle Volga region!!? They have already talked to the point that Aksakov, in his story about how he collected butterflies in his childhood (as a high school student), including grushevaya on his estate, made it all up! I will be glad to meet you!

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01.02.2012 13:54, Entomon

Live cocoons of females of this species are VERY necessary...

BO (Oleg Boroznov) had 7 cocoons left (as he said, more females), but I already bought them today, maybe someone else is breeding them?

01.02.2012 17:37, AGG

Oleg, don't be afraid I'll fill you up with pupae in the spring, just remind me of March wink.gif
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15.02.2012 13:01, Entomon

Pupae have arrived, but how do you determine their gender? I can't do it! IMG_2639.JPG

15.02.2012 22:42, okoem

Males have wider whiskers. But I don't know how noticeable this is in the pupa.
By the way, there are several cocoons for sale, delivery by mail within Ukraine, how to deliver to Russia - I don't know. okoem@km.ru

17.02.2012 12:06, Entomon

I looked more closely and came to the conclusion that I have either 4 ♀ and 3 ♂, or 5 ♀ and ♂, because one pupa is dwarf and I can't determine its gender, most likely a female, because the male pupae develop faster and the wing pattern is more distinct

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17.02.2012 14:34, metall-mikki

..in 2009, a female pear peacock fell into my hands...As soon as I was in the box, I laid my eggs...
Then it was all like in the pictures of EuRyAlUs =)
The only thing that upset me was that during the second molt, 1/2 of all the caterpillars (there were about 50 of them in total) did not completely shed their old skins and simply died(...I only managed to "pull off" the old skins from 4-5 people , but I couldn't help the rest...
Another annoying moment happened in early April, when I accidentally checked the boxes on the balcony, where there were about 25 cocoons of pear saturnia-inside the box there were already "missing" 8 Saturnia...5 males and 3 females...a couple of days later, there were 16 saturniums in total...I don't even know why they got out so early...it seems that the balcony in winter was no more than 5 degrees...yes, and March was cool and here on those-in April were born)...yes, and some small ones - no more than 10 cm in wingspan, both males and females...although the caterpillars of the last stages were well-fed and healthy-fed as if for slaughter)...
Opening the remaining cocoons,I found that 5 caterpillars did not turn into pupae - they died...even through the covers of 2-3 pupae, "ready-made" formed butterflies could be seen,but, for some reason, they were dead and shrunken...

I wanted to ask the butterfly keepers, maybe someone had similar cases - what affected the death of caterpillars during molting?...why did half of the caterpillars fail to shed their skins?...
And how long and at what temperatures do you keep the pupae in the cold?

18.02.2012 20:45, Entomon

I did it this way: IMG_2661.JPGthe bucket with the pupae is on the split system, secured with a cord and an old water mixer (in case of strong wind), frosts do not fall below -7

This post was edited by Entomon - 02/18/2012 20: 50

18.02.2012 21:48, AGG

have you ever thought that in the wind, from which your jar is protected by a mixer, the latter can technically work in someone's head? shuffle.gif
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