E-mail: Password: Create an Account Recover password

About Authors Contacts Get involved Русская версия

show

Moscow and the Moscow region

Community and Forum → Travel and expeditions → Moscow and the Moscow region

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8... 132

09.07.2007 13:52, omar

This may be difficult. I use chloroform, like a bug, and the moth itself, you know, burn out from it.

09.07.2007 15:04, Pavel Morozov

They can be put in the freezer for a short time.
Likes: 1

09.07.2007 18:21, RippeR

pyadenits need to be squeezed-instantly, effektivno

09.07.2007 18:42, AntSkr

You can squeeze large types, but small ones...

09.07.2007 18:59, RippeR

AntSkr:
Naoorot! small ones are convenient and immediately die.. but many very large ones can't be killed like that.. Especially bears and mottled bears - they are generally immortalsmile.gif.

09.07.2007 19:01, AntSkr

I mean the smallest ones, which have a wing of about a centimeter... it is better to touch them less with your hands, so as not to spoil them...
Large species - I mean large moths, bears, etc. I didn't even mention it...

This post was edited by AntSkr-09.07.2007 19: 02

09.07.2007 22:00, Zhuk

In order not to spoil small species (and all the others), it is better, after removing them from the stain, to put them in a jar with cotton wool moistened with ammonia. I personally got myself a plastic sealed jar. There, before fishing, I put a cotton wool soaked in ammonia. Removing butterflies from the stain, I put them right in a pile in this jar and they are finally zaginaetsya. It turns out like a general stain, which often does not open and it does not run out of steam. (this is my personal method, so don't take it personallysmile.gif)
And if you squeeze, then it's already like someone stuffed his hand. If a small butterfly sits on a hard surface, then it can be pressed down with a fingernail, and if on the screen, then in the stain. The main thing is that it instantly zaginalsya there. Then it is already asleep, you can gently press down or prick with a syringe.

10.07.2007 13:06, Pavel Morozov

Oh! Zaofftopili, damn it, about killing!
It is necessary to mordicate so that reliably, quickly, accurately, without damaging the insect, without discoloring it.
I also looked through the scoop of Omar collected at the dacha and found two more not very simple ones - Fissipunctia ypsilon and Parastichtis suspecta.

10.07.2007 13:07, Pavel Morozov

People! I'm going to Luzhki (near the Prioksko-terrasny Nature Reserve) tomorrow. Who's with me?

10.07.2007 13:22, RippeR

very small butterflies I make a neat click on the pronotum, not strong. They immediately die, pollen is not erased, and voosche all super! Try it just for fun. You can do this both on a hard surface and on the screen.
All, offtop finished smile.gif

10.07.2007 13:45, Pavel Morozov

very small butterflies I make a neat click on the pronotum, not strong. They immediately die, pollen is not erased, and voosche all super! Try it just for fun. You can do this both on a hard surface and on the screen.
That's it, offtop is finished smile.gif

RippeR, come on!
What happens to the pronotum?
I, for example, if the pronotum is slightly worn, generally get upset. teapot.gif

10.07.2007 21:30, RippeR

This method allows you not to get upset.. you just need to get a little better at it. Everything is going well, I assure you.. I myself first thought that butterflies are killed when I was told, and potmo was shown to me and I tried it myself - the result is good!

12.07.2007 11:45, stierlyz

Rather than observe the effects of a drought in your native region, isn't it better to go to the Carpathians? It is closer and cheaper than Kazakhstan. Only there can be problems exactly the opposite - cold weather and rain all day long.

12.07.2007 15:04, taler

I agree.many have tufts and generally torments to save such a butterfly.I even tried to stab it with a pin first,pin it in a closed plastic box, and starve it out.In short, it is difficult with them.And you can't throw it in the stain and you can't kill it with a crack

12.07.2007 16:04, RippeR

Sometimes you can successfully squeeze the net, you can prick the flesh with a pin and then squeeze or inject poison.. Generally with khokhlovatymi ralno not simply.. but what can you do?.

16.07.2007 9:32, Solarway

I went to d yesterday.Konobeyevo(70-75km south-east of Moscow), many large Inachis io and Vanessa cardui flew. Everything is of perfect quality, caught a few. I also caught several different sennits and satyrs(there are just a lot of them), female chervonets were actively flying, which is also very cool. But that's nothing compared to the following: I caught someone I didn't expect to meet there. Namely Papilio machaon, I met three copies, caught one. In general, I think that the trip was a success. smile.gif

16.07.2007 10:46, Aleksandr Safronov

But that's nothing compared to the following: I caught someone I didn't expect to meet there. Namely Papilio machaon, I met three copies, caught one. In general, I think that the trip was a success. smile.gif

It is very strange when people are surprised by the findings of Papilio machaon. The butterfly is by and large banal, ubiquitous. Well, an exotic look for our area, of course, but nothing more. In Tula, 180 km from Moscow, butterflies fly within the city limits. confused.gif

16.07.2007 11:09, Solarway

It is very strange when people are surprised by the findings of Papilio machaon. The butterfly is by and large banal, ubiquitous. Well, an exotic look for our area, of course, but nothing more. In Tula, 180 km from Moscow, butterflies fly within the city limits. confused.gif

I am not surprised at the swallowtail itself, I have caught it many times, I am surprised that I caught it in MO.
You yourself answered my surprise: "in Tula-180 km from Moscow. Tula will still be more comfortable, here and in the city fly smile.gif

16.07.2007 11:21, Vlad Proklov

I am not surprised at the swallowtail itself, I have caught it many times, I am surprised that I caught it in MO.
You yourself answered my surprise: "in Tula-180 km from Moscow. Tula will still be more comfortable, they fly there and within the city limits smile.gif

Yes, the swallowtail is not a southerner (it is found to the Arctic), I have repeatedly seen it in Zhukovsky near Moscow within the city limits. Surely there will be people here who have seen him in Moscow...

It's just that it's rare, with the exception of local breeding sites.
Likes: 1

16.07.2007 11:51, Aleksandr Safronov

Naturally, the geography of the swallowtail's distribution is huge. It is found in much more northern latitudes than Moscow. It flies both on the plains and in the highlands. I think that it is quite realistic to find it in the suburbs of Moscow. yes.gif

16.07.2007 12:19, Zhuk

I think that it is quite realistic to find it in the suburbs of Moscow. yes.gif

Not real, but accurate. yes.gif I do not see them every year in the Ruzsky district, but lepidopterolog also sees them in the Ramenskoye district.

16.07.2007 12:22, Solarway

It is clear, so the swallowtail is just very local, because Ramenskiy district is not far from Konobeyevo, but I saw it there for the first time.

16.07.2007 13:08, omar

In 1991, he caught a swallowtail in Orekhovo-Borisovo, on Borisovsky ponds. And in the Moscow region, it is everywhere, of course, it is not much, but they fly. I don't catch them, let them live. It's a pleasure to look at them. smile.gif

16.07.2007 14:01, RippeR

our swallowtails are becoming rare frown.gifEvery year less and more local frown.gif

16.07.2007 14:02, Zhuk

This weekend (14-15) I drove to the village (Ruzsky district). The weather failed. On the first day it was raining and I didn't catch anything, in the evening I was fishing for electricity. 15 pieces of Euthrix potatoria and 4 Arctia caja arrived, which I did not take. The rest of the flight was bad. From the catch: Thumatha senex, Phragmatobia fuliginosa, Thyatira batis, Amphipyra perflua, Lygephila pastinum, Xestia c-nigrum, Apamea monoglypha, Eulithis pyropata and a bunch of other small things. The next day I went to the river, but I didn't catch anything good. Piles of flying Cynthia cardui and Vanessa atalanta. From the catch of Clossiana dia, Argynnis adippe, Colias hyale, Leptidea sinapis, Cyaniris semiargus.
In general, it sucks so I went, and even got sick...

16.07.2007 14:06, omar

But, probably, podaliriev to ..., and in the Moscow region it now generally seems not. The last known copies date back to 1983. Maybe someone caught it later? Please respond!

16.07.2007 14:23, Zhuk

No, they didn't catch him anywhere in the MO. You can find out exactly from D. V. Morgun.
Likes: 1

16.07.2007 18:04, AntSkr

"In some years, another species of Podalirii (Jphiclides podalirius, L.) is observed in the forest park belt. Its single specimens have been recorded at least eight times in the last 50 years (near Kaliningrad, Lyubertsy, former Zhulebino village, platf. Saltykovskaya street of Gorkovsky district, St. Recreation of Kazansky-Ryazansky district, platf. Pionerskaya Street in Smolenskoye, for example. Moscow railway, in the Lytkarinsky forest Park). This butterfly is a forest-steppe and steppe form. It appears to us during flights from more southern regions. The main forage plant of podaliriya is blackthorn, which is found in the vicinity of Moscow only occasionally, in the form of plantings, and in the wild form begins to come across only to the south of the valley of the Oka River."

G. S. Eremkin
EXPERIENCE OF CHARACTERIZATION OF THE FAUNA OF HIGHER LEPIDOPTERA (MACROLEPIDOPTERA) IN MOSCOW AND ITS ENVIRONS, Natural Science Library
of the Moscow Society of Nature Testers,
http://www.seminarium.narod.ru/moip/lib/entomol/lepidop.html
Likes: 2

16.07.2007 18:21, Zhuk

Yeah. Near the railways, you can catch a lot of things, but all this can get to us from the south by train. But the populations are already extinct, in my opinion. Once upon a time in the Ruza district there was not such a large population. The students caught two of them, but that was a long time ago. Now they are kept in the local history museum.
Likes: 1

16.07.2007 18:22, Sparrow

Every summer I see Swallowtails in Moscow... even in flower beds they feed in sleeping areas wink.gif
Likes: 1

16.07.2007 18:24, AntSkr

About 7 years ago I saw one sailboat in the Stupinsky district, I used to think that it was served to me, but now I don't remember, maybe it was just a swallowtail... most likely... in early June... and you can find Swallowtail caterpillars on dill...

This post was edited by AntSkr - 07/16/2007 18: 26

16.07.2007 18:31, Zhuk

Year 2 nazat also saw some light yellow baidasmile.gif, ran after her fig knows skoka with the hope of podaliriya, and it turned out to be a flying female swallowtailfrown.gif
Likes: 1

16.07.2007 18:41, Zhuk

AntSkr, thank you for Eremkin's article! It turns out that until the middle of the 20th century, appolons were found near my housesmile.gif

18.07.2007 7:43, taler

Zhuk:
4 Arctia caja that I didn't take-for me, take shuffle.gifit and get well
Likes: 2

18.07.2007 12:56, Zhuk

Zhuk:
4 Arctia caja that I didn't take-for me, take shuffle.gifit and get well

All right, I'll take wink.gifit . I have them flying in vogons.

19.07.2007 11:36, Pavel Morozov

I post photos of some specimens from the training camps on July 6-7 in Lovtsy (M. O., Lukhovitsky district, ROC Beloomut)
Special thanks to Omar

Pictures:
IMG_2000.JPG
IMG_2000.JPG — (553.4к)

Likes: 3

19.07.2007 15:11, AntSkr

Morozzz how do you maintain this natural coloration of D. porcellus? For me, they all fade and become dark...

19.07.2007 15:13, omar

What do you eat?

19.07.2007 15:14, omar

If you use chloroform, then nothing terrible happens. And the frost stabs them with ammonia.

19.07.2007 17:03, lepidopterolog

Even in the dark, copies should be kept (in the sense of not in bright light).

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8... 132

New comment

Note: you should have a Insecta.pro account to upload new topics and comments. Please, create an account or log in to add comments.

* Our website is multilingual. Some comments have been translated from other languages.

Random species of the website catalog

Insecta.pro: international entomological community. Terms of use and publishing policy.

Project editor in chief and administrator: Peter Khramov.

Curators: Konstantin Efetov, Vasiliy Feoktistov, Svyatoslav Knyazev, Evgeny Komarov, Stan Korb, Alexander Zhakov.

Moderators: Vasiliy Feoktistov, Evgeny Komarov, Dmitriy Pozhogin, Alexandr Zhakov.

Thanks to all authors, who publish materials on the website.

© Insects catalog Insecta.pro, 2007—2024.

Species catalog enables to sort by characteristics such as expansion, flight time, etc..

Photos of representatives Insecta.

Detailed insects classification with references list.

Few themed publications and a living blog.