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05.08.2007 22:37, Zhuk

Scha toka came from the village. The weather is such a mess that I can't find the words frown.gif.
I set up traps, but they were flooded with water frown.gif. Of the butterflies, one commonplace. I caught a fairly large grinder beetle, which I was satisfied with. Fishing for the light also did not please. Very little flew, everything was flown.

05.08.2007 22:47, Ilia Ustiantcev

Does Laodice count as commonplace? And then I saw near the piece of iron light, but not torn and the impression that it is quite fresh.

05.08.2007 22:51, Vlad Proklov

Does Laodice count as commonplace? And then I saw near the piece of iron light, but not torn and the impression that it is quite fresh.

It is considered a local species (in the Red Book MO, by the way) - but I came across quite a lot of places.

05.08.2007 23:21, lepidopterolog

Me too, most of all I met her on art. Podosinki and Donino of the Kazan branch - almost a background view of it there.

05.08.2007 23:28, Ilia Ustiantcev

Podosinki is where I have a dacha (but closer to Antsiferovo), and I met aglaya more often last year, this year-niobe. Well, there were a lot of pathos in 2006, right now it's less.

05.08.2007 23:45, lepidopterolog

I was fishing there on 29.07. right near the railway tracks. I was hoping to find something interesting, but everything is the same as at my dacha-art. Donino: lycaon, Laodice, komma, dia are flying. The rest is banal. Caught Leptidea sp., similar in habit to reali. I haven't cooked it yet.

06.08.2007 0:18, Ilia Ustiantcev

Damn, I didn't meet dia there more than once, and lycaon only in the field to the north-west of Podosinok (there are still a bunch of meadow yolks flying).

07.08.2007 12:03, lepidopterolog

Damn, I didn't meet dia there more than once, and lycaon only in the field to the north-west of Podosinok (there are still a bunch of meadow yolks flying).

I met Dia quite often, and the lycaon on the edge of the pine forest near the platform is one of the dominant species. And where in those parts does Brenthisdaphne fly?

07.08.2007 12:25, Ilia Ustiantcev

I found daphne as well as laodice here:
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Please show on the map the interesting views that you found nearby.

07.08.2007 12:46, lepidopterolog

Here:
picture: post_20147_1186478665_thumb.jpg
I've heard that Daphne lives somewhere in the vicinity of Art. Podosinki.
Now you can still find all the views that I indicated on the map there.
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07.08.2007 18:08, Pavel Morozov

And what, is there a lot of broom yolk there?

07.08.2007 18:29, Ilia Ustiantcev

No, last year along the railway(on the entire stretch, not only in the location of Daphne) I saw 10 pieces, this year only two. Kotbegemot talked about a place in the area where they fly by the thousands!
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Who else has been to places with me or nearby, please tell pliz about interesting butterflies.

07.08.2007 18:38, Pavel Morozov

Here, it would be nice to know what this place is. I've heard that there are plenty of them in Tugolesye, too. Only where exactly to go-X. Z.

07.08.2007 18:39, lepidopterolog

And in what month did you meet the yolks there?

07.08.2007 19:18, Ilia Ustiantcev

Mostly in late summer, this year in the second half of June.

07.08.2007 19:35, Vlad Proklov

No, last year along the railway(on the entire stretch, not only in the location of Daphne) I saw 10 pieces, this year only two. Kotbegemot talked about a place in the area where they fly by the thousands!
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Who else has been to places with me or nearby, please tell pliz about interesting butterflies.

Here's the nursery I mentioned on Google Maps:
user posted image

Sorry, I've been using the map for a long time smile.gif
Here's the location:
Link to Google Maps
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07.08.2007 20:19, Zhuk

Today we were with Morozzz in PTZ and ocd. smile.gif
First we drove towards Igumnovo. There nifiga did not fly, only Meleageria daphnis frown.gif. After walking around the area, we decided to go in the direction of Luzhkov in the ROC. Zibrovo. We just drove away from Igumnovo and on the side of the road I caught a male Erebia aethiops smile.gif. I never saw them there again.
When we arrived at the ROC. Zibrovo, the picture did not particularly please us. Everything was already dry and there weren't many butterflies. Issoria lathonia, Coenonympha pamphilus, Colias hyale, Polyommatus icarus, Lycaena virgaurea(very much), M. daphnis, Lycaena tityrus and other commonplace things flew. I caught a female Lysandra coridon and that's it. Frost took Cupido minimus and the couple still, I don't remember. We decided not to catch any more fish there and went to Zibrov himself, to the clearing in his ROC. There I looked at a fallen pine tree, and as soon as I came up to it, the golden beetle Buprestis rustica landed on my head rolleyes.gif! Then I caught another specimen on this pine tree. We didn't find anything else in this clearing frown.gif.

I can't get away from catching Erebia yet shuffle.gif
I think he will tell you more, add and correct Morozzz smile.gif

This post was edited by Zhuk - 07.08.2007 21: 46
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07.08.2007 20:27, Pavel Morozov

Well, I'll add it.
In addition to the mentioned butterflies, I took another E. aethiops and a female M. daphnis. The case of zlatka is incomparable. They laughed. A large yellow-orange object flashed past us in a field near the Lawns. Assumed to be myrmidon, Zhuk ran after her, but she expertly evaded the pursuit.
The result is not a fountain, of course, but the trip turned out to be pleasant.
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07.08.2007 21:05, Pavel Morozov

Once again about zlatka.
We approach a fallen pine tree, Zhuk then says to me:"I collected gold here, right on this pine tree." And at this very moment, the same gold coin lands on his head. Like in a fairy tale. smile.gif
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07.08.2007 21:09, Zhuk

the same zlatka

No, the first time I took Phaenops cyanea there .

07.08.2007 22:16, Pavel Morozov

Here's the nursery I mentioned on Google Maps:
user posted image

Sorry, I've been using the map for a long time smile.gif
Here's the location:
Link to Google Maps

Should I take a trip?

07.08.2007 22:26, Vlad Proklov

Should I take a trip?

If you get together-share it, or something... I'm very interested in what's going on there now - and I really hope it's not too bad.

Just a moment:

The nursery is being excavated / planted in blocks - seven years ago, the pine trees where you turn off the concrete were already quite large - and there were no butterflies at all. After the butterflies, you had to go through the plantings, go into the forest, turn left in the forest, go to the river, go a little further and enter the nursery again (the most south-western corner). There was a butterfly and blue-winged butterfly paradise smile.gif

And now, perhaps, because of the rotation in some other quarter, the youngest landings - and that's what we need to look for.

07.08.2007 22:30, Pavel Morozov

And blue-winged fillies are cool, too. If anything happens, we'll share it if we go.
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07.08.2007 22:43, Ilia Ustiantcev

kotbegemot
Can you tell us how to get there from the Podosinki platform? How long will it take on a bike? (It is advisable to start like this: on the section of the road Antsiferovo-Kostino-Davydovo, or Yegoryevskoe highway-Kurovskaya-Shatura, you turn there and then...)

07.08.2007 22:48, Vlad Proklov

kotbegemot
Can you tell us how to get there from the Podosinki platform? How long will it take on a bike? (It is advisable to start like this: on the section of the road Antsiferovo-Kostino-Davydovo, or Yegoryevskoe highway-Kurovskaya-Shatura, you turn there...)

If you go south from Kurovsky along the second concrete road, then you need to turn right where there is a sign "Entry is Prohibited" or something like that-there you will see that this is a nursery - young pines in even rows. And then I explained above how I could.
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07.08.2007 23:01, Pavel Morozov

If this is a nursery, no one will slap us with a cradle there?

07.08.2007 23:04, Vlad Proklov

If this is a nursery, no one will slap us with a cradle there?

I don't know-the locals go...
I didn't run into anyone there either.

07.08.2007 23:06, Pavel Morozov

I think if you go there in the morning, there won't be any locals.

07.08.2007 23:51, mikee

And blue-winged fillies are cool, too. If anything happens, we'll share it if we go.

What, do you need fillies? Do I have a lot of them to catch in Gus-Zheleznysmile.gif? Dimensions from 115 to 25 mm

07.08.2007 23:54, mikee

Here, it would be nice to know what this place is. I've heard that there are plenty of them in Tugolesye, too. Only where exactly to go-H. Z.

Pavel, are you going to pick up the myrmidons, or is it fundamentally important to catch them yourself? smile.gif And then I'll give the Ripper ... To all, with. myrmidone flew out two weeks ago. They have a good harvest year.

This post was edited by mikee - 07.08.2007 23: 55
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08.08.2007 1:27, RippeR

That's right, Ripper!!!!! jump.gif
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08.08.2007 9:07, Pavel Morozov

[quote=mikee,08.08.2007 00:54]

08.08.2007 15:21, Ilia Ustiantcev

Please tell me what can fly in the Nemchinov area now? This is not far from Moscow, the final stop of the bus number 867. (not to be confused with Nemchinovka-this is closer to Moscow and to the north, the first station of the main Belarusian direction beyond the MKAD). You may not have been there, but you can probably make a guess from the June views? The area is a small stream overgrown with bushes, followed by a very wide clearing with power lines, on both sides of which there is a forest or planting (on one side almost immediately replaced by dachas). So, in June, we flew there:
Some sort of red thickhead, most likely ochlodes sylvanus or thymelicus sp.
Some pigeons
Camilla (by the stream)
Urticaria
Three banal pieris
Three banal sennits-arcania, glycerion, and pamphyl
Iperant and cow's eye
Brown clover scoop
There were no ordinary types-marigolds, checkers and mother-of-pearl.
Is it really possible there, in addition to others? Do you want to meet big-eye or egeria now?

08.08.2007 15:29, Pavel Morozov

Please tell me what can fly in the Nemchinov area now? This is not far from Moscow, the final stop of the bus number 867. (not to be confused with Nemchinovka-this is closer to Moscow and to the north, the first station of the main Belarusian direction beyond the MKAD). You may not have been there, but you can probably make a guess from the June views? The area is a small stream overgrown with bushes, followed by a very wide clearing with power lines, on both sides of which there is a forest or planting (on one side almost immediately replaced by dachas). So, in June, we flew there:
Some sort of red thickhead, most likely ochlodes sylvanus or thymelicus sp.
Some pigeons
Camilla (by the stream)
Urticaria
Three banal pieris
Three banal sennits-arcania, glycerion, and pamphyl
Iperant and cow's eye
Brown clover scoop
There were no ordinary types-marigolds, checkers and mother-of-pearl.
Is it really possible there, in addition to others? Do you want to meet big-eye or egeria now?

probably nothing interesting. Moreover, a significant part of the fields is built up, and the riverine meadows are behind the fence. That's for sure, because I'm pretty much a local myself.
Colias hyale and Pontia edusa. And everything. Go better to Razdory (from the Working village by train for 10-15 minutes. Then-on foot back to the train to the Chachenka river, near which there is a pretty meadow. Maybe there's more in there.
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08.08.2007 16:30, Pavel Morozov

Krupnoglazka only in June until the beginning of July on shady forest roads, in the undergrowth along the edges of the edges and overgrown glades. A very ordinary view.

Egeria in Nemchinovo is probably nonsense. Egeria is best viewed west of Golitsyno from mid-May to mid-June, optimally on May 25-30. Biotopes are the same as those of the krupnoglazka, only a few years earlier. Avoids open spaces. It usually flies in the undergrowth, likes to land on leaves, for example, hazel and on the ground where the sun breaks through the foliage. Males drive away rivals and other butterflies from their "individual plots".
It can produce an incomplete second generation from late summer to October. (for the Moscow region). Pictured is Parage aegeria tircis, Chigasovo village, Odintsovo district, Moscow region, 02.06.07.

Pictures:
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08.08.2007 16:43, Ilia Ustiantcev

It's just that egeria is not found in Meshchera, and I did not meet krupnoglazka, although a classmate said that he saw her at the 90 or 95 kilometer (Kurovskoe).
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kotbegemot
And you met big-eye in those forest plantations?

This post was edited by Ilya U-08.08.2007 16: 49

08.08.2007 16:49, lepidopterolog

This year, on 23.07. I caught a male egeria in the vicinity of the Donino station of the Kazan direction (on the border of the garden association). I've never seen her here before, especially not this late. So I think that this is a late representative of the first generation or an early representative of the second? IMHO, for the species to give a second generation this year, the summer is too cold. By the way, on 11.06 this year in the same place, only on the outskirts of the swamp, I caught a large-eyed fish for the first time. I never saw either species again in this place.

This post was edited by lepidopterolog-08.08.2007 16: 50

08.08.2007 16:52, Ilia Ustiantcev

This is an early representative of the second-this year everything is shifted by a month. Maybe I'll have a silkworm lettuce hatched by September 1? I would also like to know the reasons for this behavior: early winter, or +25 until mid-October and an additional generation?

08.08.2007 16:56, lepidopterolog

I wonder if the Egeria specimen I met is stray, or if there is a small population somewhere in those parts. As Ilya rightly noted, it should not be found in Meshchera, most of the known points are located in the west of the region.

08.08.2007 16:58, Ilia Ustiantcev

Sergiev Posad and Podolsky districts are the most suitable ones, according to the CC MO.

This post was edited by Ilya U-08.08.2007 16: 59

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