Wasp nests

No, I mean the nests of polistov, the nests of others I protect as much as I can(A jar of honey, fresh insects in the morning.) So I tried to reduce the number of cursed polists.

Interesting approach you have Why destroy something?) If you have polisty-this is a dominant look, then accept it. Study and maintain them, and if you're lucky, other species as well. You won't achieve anything by destroying them: the number of others will remain the same, and the number of polists will decrease.
I assure you, you will not be able to change nature. There are certain climatic conditions in your region that are probably very suitable for Polistas, but not very suitable for Saxonians, for example.
Join us) We are waiting for your photos)
And the phrase "destroyed a thousand nests", I hope, we will not see again!

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 06/23/2013 00: 01

Interesting approach you have Why destroy something?) If you have polisty-this is a dominant look, then accept it. Study and maintain them, and if you're lucky, other species as well. You won't achieve anything by destroying them: the number of others will remain the same, and the number of polists will decrease.
I assure you, you will not be able to change nature. There are certain climatic conditions in your region that are probably very suitable for Polistas, but not very suitable for Saxonians, for example.
Join us) We are waiting for your photos)
And the phrase "destroyed a thousand nests", I hope, we will not see again!

So I understand that I won't change anything, but I have a dislike for them just - well, I can't and that's it. As for the climatic conditions - they did not change, about 4 years ago hornets dominated, there were even more Saxonians - but as soon as the neighboring forest was cut down, polistas bred because no one controlled their number anymore, polistas replaced Saxonica.

And yes - it's all the fault of the person. If the forest was not cut down , the hornet would not have left, and if the hornet did not leave, then there are few polistov, few polistov-more than Saxony.
Tomorrow I'll go on a raid for a new home nest, try to find a hornet or a saxon. I will make a photo countdown, wish you good luck.

This post was edited by RainbowAsher - 06/23/2013 01: 05

So I understand that I won't change anything, but I have a dislike for them just - well, I can't and that's it. As for the climatic conditions - they did not change, about 4 years ago hornets dominated, there were even more Saxonians - but as soon as the neighboring forest was cut down, polistas bred because no one controlled their number anymore, polistas replaced Saxonica.

And yes - it's all the fault of the person. If the forest was not cut down , the hornet would not have left, and if the hornet did not leave, then there are few polistov, few polistov-more than Saxony.
Tomorrow I'll go on a raid for a new home nest, try to find a hornet or a saxon. I will make a photo countdown, wish you good luck.

I assure you, the loss of hornets can not be connected with one forest! Perhaps the nesting sites have changed: now there are ventilation blogs, burrows, and so on. Just avoid polists when you see them.
Well, they made me laugh) Polists are not able to displace Saxony ever. First, polysts form not very large nests, which, accordingly, do not need so many alert ones. Hornets, saxons - these are already more widespread species. There are more nests there and you need a lot of food. Competition is a COMMON phenomenon, and if you want to have different types of wasps, you need to have a variety of wasps on your site! After all, there is always competition between species, and as a result of competition, their number increases. Perhaps the reason for such a strange loss of hornets was another factor unknown to you (there are many of them, for example, an unsuitable winter when many females died, etc.). Nature is nature, and by destroying nests you will achieve nothing, only you will become not a fan of wasps, but their most important deprecator.

How do you deal with germanica and vulgaris (earthen species), for example?

P.S A person who is really interested in insects and studies them to some extent will never destroy them so easily. Personally, my conscience wouldn't allow me to do such a thing!!! Good luck with your search

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 06/23/2013 11: 23

RainbowAsher, a strange approach, the destruction of the nests of polistov nothing but the cultivation of internal aggression and other karma does not bring Polistov nika kno can compete with neither Germanics nor vulgaris. not to the hornets.
But also that any wasps attacked polistov, I also did not see, I have a nest of polistov and germanicus, I did not observe attacks.

Hornets could really disappear after deforestation, they don't seem to like settling in the city very much. But Germanic and vulgaris should be.

By the way, you are in Chuvashia, I understand, so here!
http://vespabellicosus2008.narod.ru/


And I have such good news at first - today I decided to rest in the afternoon, I didn't go anywhere and watched the German nest, and I noticed just an avalanche-like flight of young wasps! Obviously, it is the wasps that were already large larvae on the edge of the first tier that fly out, the timing is just right.
The young wasp climbs out, looks around, takes off and begins to slowly describe arcs around the hole, then flies out over the balcony, and returns in a couple of minutes. Then she flies out again, and immediately disappears somewhere in the vastness of a new world for her

So foraging has already become quite boring, I think that the population is already close to 50 wasps, if not more.
And soon the os will come out of the central part of the uterine honeycomb and from the second tier, probably one of these days already.
Judging by the way the ground is being taken out, the wasps have already started building the third tier.

And the polists are in trouble, two wasps are missing, and here they are again missing two wasps. There are only three wasps left at the moment, but there are approx. 8 blockages, and larvae develop, but it is not yet clear whether these are females or males from infertile eggs.
In general, polisty of course retarded, but this is not a reason to hate and destroy them! Every creature lives by right

Unfortunately, due to a sudden storm, I was unable to go in search of it. I'll try again tomorrow morning.

And today I walked around the site a little. I went for a walk near the dacha and found a large colony of common wasps in a hole on the very side of the road.

Today I saw an incredible picture that shook my confidence in the" harmlessness " of the polysters))))

In general, I'm walking along a ravine, and there's a little overgrown ravine, and at its beginning there's a tree, a wild pear tree.
And there polychrome flew, ox eyes.. and then I look, German wasps seem to fly into the trunk of this pear tree.. I thought that there was even a nest, but it turned out that this is a juicer, and the wasps drink juice there.
So, the picture is this-a German wasp is sitting and drinking juice. Near it sits polychrome, and tries to drive it away, but in vain)))
And then polist flies up.. he throws himself at a German wasp, they fall head over heels, the German wasp flies away.. then polist throws himself at polychrome, and she also flies away. As a result, polist drinks juice in proud solitude )))
But that's not all))))))
Here comes the Snov Agerman wasp. Flew flew around the sheet... and flew to another place to drink juice, see not so "hot". I probably thought-well, it's this sheet, still generally gnaws

Here is such foraging now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er8UnGN1kB8

Today, two amazing events took place at once:
First, polistov gave birth to 3 worker wasps(by the time of planting, 2 died defending the nest from ants)
In the photo you can see 2 workers and a uterus.
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And I finally found the vulgaris nest! In the wall of my bathhouse.
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This is already a normal photo report) Interestingly, the wall has a lot of space there? What is foraging in vulgaris? How many workers are there already?

This is already a normal photo report) Interestingly, the wall has a lot of space there? What is foraging in vulgaris? How many workers are there already?

Furanging active 1-2 per minute. There is enough space, and egg development is also faster due to the high temperatures in the bath.
The pace of development of polysters in my nedoterrarium is frightening. Just hatched 4 working os. It became dangerous to approach them, to take pictures even more dangerous - when I took this photo, I was successfully stung by a new worker in the palm of his hand, apparently he was not used to me yet.


This post was edited by RainbowAsher - 06/25/2013 13: 00

(Well, dangerous) Polists are the most peaceful wasps). Try to take pictures from a distance of 10-20 cm. Everything will be OK.
I tasted a Saxon's nest in a hollow tree yesterday, and the wasps have already taken over the whole hollow - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/saxonica_cycle3.html

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 06/25/2013 13: 18

at my dacha here are such settled.. grow by leaps and bounds, 2 shells in 3 days

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Cool, but the uterus does not fly out as I understand it?

I didn't notice how it appeared there at all, I was only gone for 2 weeks after spring, and then I come and there's how
and the uterus apparently hasn't flown for a long time

well, judging by the size of the nest, the workers are new. interestingly, it's a little late. If you look through the entrance hole, you might see a female. It often happens that the workers seem to be there, but it is not in the nest, you can say that they like to disappear in the last flights after the appearance of workers. I myself observe such nests. Of the 9 moths that I found in the spring, only 2 nests survived.

well, judging by the size of the nest, the workers are new. interestingly, it's a little late. If you look through the entrance hole, you might see a female. It often happens that the workers seem to be there, but it is not in the nest, you can say that they like to disappear in the last flights after the appearance of workers. I myself observe such nests. Of the 9 moths that I found in the spring, only 2 nests survived.

when the last time I looked-I saw the uterus, I also somehow find it confusing that the honeycomb is very shaking when crawling on it, what is it holding on to there at all and will it come off?

Something here is complete silence My balcony nests are still developing perfectly, which is surprising, it looks like the uterus did not disappear in the nest of polistov! It has grown and so far no males have emerged from new cells.

Yesterday I moved another germanic nest, but it doesn't matter, I lost a bunch of wasps and didn't notice the queen in the nest, and one wasp stung my finger
The nest was not in the ground, but in a box with scrap metal, it was unrealistic to catch wasps with bottles, their number was decent, at least a couple of hundred, and even the nest in such a place that I was amazed - the nest was located in a pipe about 30 cm long and about 7 cm in diameter! The pipe was covered with small scrap metal. There were three tiers, and the third one was already just resting on the bottom! What did the uterus think when it was built there - it is not clear, naevrnoe thought that she could gryst iron

In general, transferring nests now is a thankless task, only complete ruin, only ideally-if the nest is in some box that can be closed and moved at night, but this is an almost spherical wasp nest in a vacuum - this does not happen)))

The image shows the polistov nest a few days after it was moved to the balcony, and a photo of the nest taken a couple of days ago.

why did they start adding such "sheds", and not another external sphere? and the flight hole was sealed very strongly

Hello everyone I will tell you a little about my nests - to my great regret, the nest of ordinary wasps died, apparently the uterus disappeared. Three other nests - two of the Saxon wasp and one of the wood wasp-are in order, and the foraging population is good and strong at the moment. But in addition to the wasps, I managed to accidentally find two bumblebee nests near the house - the first was an earthen one, but I did not identify the second one - the workers were smaller and of a different color. Moreover, the nests were located at a short distance from each other. But the trouble is-the foraging of the workers of those bumblebees was good and strong two weeks ago, but yesterday I again observed-neither of them fly, apparently they died, but I don't know exactly from what. There is a suspicion that mice are to blame - one nest was under an old cage left over from rabbits, and the second nest was inside it, in a pile of old junk, which now changed its position, as if someone moved it.

The lost vulgaris nest (lower).

Saxon wasp nest in the garden.

Saxon wasp nest in the garden, view from the other side.

Foraging of forest wasps, two wasps fly into the box at the same time

The post was edited by Nazar - 21.07.2013 17: 01

Dear forumchane!! I would appreciate your advice. On the plot on a pine tree I found something tubular, about 7 cm in diameter, striped ones with wings crawl on it. Intuitively, I understand that wasps. So, until I decided to be afraid or not, to clean up or not, if not to clean up, then how to behave so as not to harm each other mutually.

Dear forumchane!! I would appreciate your advice. On the plot on a pine tree I found something tubular, about 7 cm in diameter, striped ones with wings crawl on it. Intuitively, I understand that wasps. So, until I decided to be afraid or not, to clean up or not, if not to clean up, then how to behave so as not to harm each other mutually.

If the nest is tubular, and the wasps are black, then this is an average wasp. The nest can not be cleaned, the wasps themselves will leave the nest in the fall. The only rules - do not come closer than 3-5 meters, do not make sudden movements near the nest, and do not make any shocks to the tree. You will not touch them, and they will not touch you!

why did they start adding such "sheds", and not another external sphere? and the flight hole was sealed very tightly

Why is the nest so small??? Or so it seems to me. I myself have observed such small nests, usually this means that there is no female there.
Here, our nests Saxon (JULY 19) - there are already descendants of the genus almost everywhere - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/saxonica_in_a...ed_cottage.html

Thank you very much, Roman!! It became easier, it remains to find out how not to approach the tree to see the color of these Baskervilles. And if they are striped, then what is the right thing to do? It's a pity that they don't fly signed, it would be much easier.. Actually, after reading the posts here, I probably could love these little animals.

Thank you very much, Roman!! It became easier, it remains to find out how not to approach the tree to see the color of these Baskervilles. And if they are striped, then what is the right thing to do? It's a pity that they don't fly signed, it would be much easier.. Actually, after reading the posts here, I probably could love these little animals.

View the entire page (photos) and the text below, this seems to be your view. - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/dolichovespula_media.html ) Everything is described in detail. Tell us about the nest placement (height). As I understand it, it is placed completely open on the branch?

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 22.07.2013 14: 30

Height 1600 mm from ground level. There are no balloons inside. At night you can't see anything, and in the morning it feels like they are sitting on top of inanimate, but of course I didn't check. I don't mind staying with them until winter, as long as they don't offend us.

Height 1600 mm from ground level. There are no balloons inside. At night you can't see anything, and in the morning it feels like they are sitting on top of inanimate, but of course I didn't check. I don't mind staying with them until winter, as long as they don't offend us.

Read the private message.

I read the tab. I don't have any carbs, apples, or parsnips with angelica. And the wasps seem to be similar, why did they get so lucky?.

Why is the nest so small??? Or so it seems to me. I myself have observed such small nests, usually this means that there is no female there.
Here, our nests Saxon (JULY 19) - there are already descendants of the genus almost everywhere - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/saxonica_in_a...ed_cottage.html

I do not know what it should be in this time period, but in my opinion it is not so small (diameter of at least 10 cm)

I found a hornet's nest like this a few days ago!!! What is interesting - after all, in May I looked into that hollow-I did not notice the nest. And now I look - a hornet flies next to a tree, well, I began to observe and
This hollow itself is located right next to the ground and it is very easy to get a nest, but alas, I have nowhere to settle it, there are two germanic nests on the balcony, well, one is not very good, but still, and polisty. And the hornets will take and eat all these nests.
So I will watch and post pictures of the development of the nest in nature, the benefit is not very far, about 8 km from home, it's easy to get on a bike

Today's foraging party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApSDrwdeY8

Nazar, have you dismantled the nest of ordinary wasps? I wonder what's inside?

Roman Rakochy, what's new for you?

What is interesting - after all, in May I looked into that hollow-I did not notice the nest.

I'll tell you more, I was in my forest looking into the hollow where the hornets lived last year, in June-so there was absolutely no one there, and now a hefty nest

Hierophis, cool nest) it will be better to observe it in nature for you, you did it right)
Naschet me. Today I tasted the edge of the forest, where I rarely went. There, foresters have long hung a lot of birdhouses there. 7 pieces right now hanging there. Spharischen, today in 4 of 7 found nests vespid! I am generally amazed, the distance between the nests is small. In general, 3 nests of hornets and one Saxony. I took good photos, despite the fact that each birdhouse is at least 5 meters high. - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/wasps_in_birdhouses.html . Waiting for this comment)

Hierophis, the nest has not yet been disassembled, I will analyze it later and post a photo. You found a cool hornet's nest. Roman Rakochy, great photos. It will be necessary next year and yourself near the house on the trees to hang a few wooden boxes, maybe just in them hornets will settle. And then in the garden just that box from the parcel was inhabited by wasps (pictured above), although I did not think in the past that they could settle in such a small space.

I'm in trouble, someone or something has destroyed a nest in the garden! I went to the garden today to check on the wasps, and I saw that only the shell of the nest was left under the roof. I don't know exactly who could have destroyed the nest like that, but it couldn't have fallen apart like that. I guess it's probably either a bird or a cat, there's a shelf down there so she can get it. Or maybe someone else went into the garden and destroyed it, since no one from the relatives could have done this for sure.
Or is it the consequences of an attack by someone else's OS?
It is also strange that there are no combs, because they should have fallen to the ground under the nest, and they are not there, only a piece of the shell was found. I saw three worker wasps fly to the remains, then one fell to the ground, while I was going to the house to get my camera, they had already flown away.
Fortunately, the socket in the box was not damaged. But I also decided to take a look at the shed in the same garden, where two years ago there was a large nest that I didn't photograph. And to my great surprise, I found a big new nest of Saxon wasps, if I'm not mistaken! I don't know when it was laid, I haven't seen it there before, the last time I looked there was quite a long time ago, about two months ago.

A ruined nest.

A large nest discovered today in a barn. Ahead, you can also see the remains of an old nest, which itself collapsed, it was also large. A huge spider lurked under the nest at the back

This post was edited by Nazar - 25.07.2013 22: 39

Nazar, last year he himself saw such mysterious destruction of Saxon nests. In my case, as many as four nests were lost. I also didn't find any cells under the nest, etc. I assume it's either a bird or something like a thor or a mouse. The animal must have thick fur to destroy nests so easily.
You've found an interesting nest, and the females and males have probably already hatched from it. I have here already on July 19 there was a year of progenitors of the genus. Since you live 100 km away from me, you should have the same experience.
In addition to those nests in the birdhouses, I found two more hornet nests:one in a hollow oak tree, and the other in the wall of an abandoned but locked cottage booth. Photos will be available until the end of this week. There are a lot of hornet nests this year

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 07/25/2013 23: 17

Roman, thank you for the information. So the nest I found in the barn will soon die, since the males and females are already hatched? I wonder why the size of the nests of wasps of the same species differs so much at the same time - it's because of the female's fecundity. I wish I'd followed that nest in the barn earlier - I didn't see wasps there in the spring when they were already in other places, and I thought there wouldn't be any nests here this year, so I didn't look there again until today.

The post was edited by Nazar - 25.07.2013 23: 21

Roman, thank you for the information. So the nest I found in the barn will soon die, since the males and females are already hatched? I wonder why the size of the nests of wasps of the same species differs so much at the same time - it's because of the female's fecundity.

The nest you found is more likely to die. Worker wasps remove all larvae from the honeycomb, the old queen may have already died. After the departure of new females, the nest lives for another 2-3 weeks, depending on how many working wasps are left and what strength the nest had.
The difference in size is quite natural. Perhaps the nest was laid early, or perhaps everything just went very smoothly and favorably for it and it grew so much.