Wasp nests

It is unlikely that there will be any larvae. Usually, males are hatched just at the end of August, and females a little later. I think there are cocoons right now.

It is unlikely that there will be any larvae. Usually, males are hatched just at the end of August, and females a little later. I think there are cocoons right now.

and I in that year somewhere in late October, when I got the nest, I found rotten larvae, maybe there is a chance?

and I in that year somewhere in late October, when I got the nest, I found rotten larvae, maybe there is a chance?

There is a chance, of course, but I understand that you want to destroy some nest and expel larvae-future young queens?

There is a chance, of course, but I understand that you want to destroy some nest and expel larvae-future young queens?

Judging by how many nests I've seen, duiayu, destroying one won't really break the balance. And if there are already pupae there, I will try to get them out and let them go.
By the way, about the queens of osnavatelnits. I set a trap for hornets today, and right at the tree, at a depth of 1-2cm, I got the queen of a bumblebee, do they go so early for wintering?

This post was edited by Collector - 08/21/2013 21: 25

Yesterday I was walking through the forest and found a vulgaris nest in a very strange place-in a crack in a rotten tree that was lying on the ground.Video vulgarisov later post on YouTube.

About the queen bee-interesting. I have not yet found any information about the exact time when they go to winter quarters. The same thing happens with Saxon trees - the uterus is not found in September at all, although the temperature is still high at that time. Who knows where they go?
vespa crabro, waiting. Really interesting place, maybe at the end of the season you will break this tree.

vespa crabro, drag the tree to the balcony )))))
Collector, why do you need nests with larvae??? On the contrary, it is better to have an empty nest without cocoons and larvae, otherwise it stinks!
Roman Rakochy, why don't you tell me about your vulgaris nest?

My Germanics are still excellent, fly, bite regularly
And polisty are already preparing to spend the winter, but what is SOOO pleasing, a bunch of queens are clearly going to spend the winter on the nest, which means that there is a chance of laying the nest in the spring on their own.

this is certainly not public and not even folding wings, but I don't know which branch to fill it in

what's going on there? at an altitude of about 3-4m, a bunch of what looked like rissa males were bustling around a hole, although females were flying nearby, which they didn't pay any attention to at all

So maybe the females didn't pay attention to them? ))
Or maybe they were taking a break from the females there
Or maybe there is some juice that is released from that hole?

 
Collector, why do you need nests with larvae??? On the contrary, it is better to have an empty nest without cocoons and larvae, otherwise it stinks!

I collect all sorts of larvae, so I hope to get some rather big specimens

So maybe the females didn't pay attention to them? ))
Or maybe they were taking a break from the females there
Or maybe there is some juice that is released from that hole?

1 is unlikely
2 is not, they clearly tried to get to one point, if you look closely at the photo, there it can be seen
3 juice could not be, dead birch

+1 hornet's nest. And for some reason I didn't meet any aspen trees at all this year
In the crack of a dead birch tree

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Collector, well, in general, I think that you have larvae, I recently looked at our nest, there were larvae. By the way, hornets also actively throw out larvae from the nest, I found one.
And if not, then you need to disassemble the nest right now, a bunch of corpses (not well, I certainly mean hornets, but hornets can also defend themselves))) ) and the interrupted life cycle of the nest just to get and dry the larva... brrrr )

In general, at the end of the cycle in the nests of Germanic and vulgaris-a darkness of larvae, and I think hornets will be so. So I think it's more logical to wait until completion and calmly parse

About the queen bee-interesting. I have not yet found any information about the exact time when they go to winter quarters. The same thing happens with Saxon trees - the uterus is not found in September at all, although the temperature is still high at that time. Who knows where they go?
vespa crabro, waiting. Really interesting place, maybe at the end of the season you will break this tree.

But is there any scientific information when the uterus of polistov and Germanic leaves for the winter?

I think there is no Germanic and vulgaris we have very late mating, in early October even, and probably immediately seek shelter. But polistes, like Saxon birds, stop developing their nests at the end of July and then wander around everywhere, so most of the females flew away from the nest, but not all of them did not return! Some females regularly return to the nest for the night. And I assume that the group just returns and spends the winter in the nest. But they do not sit in the nest all the time in the warm season, but fly, see what they eat, well, on dates )
When November approaches and the heat ends, then I'll see how they behave.
And the queens of bumblebees fly on flowers here, too, until November, while it's warm and there are flowers.

Collector, well, in general, I think that you have larvae, I recently looked at our nest, there were larvae. By the way, hornets also actively throw out larvae from the nest, I found one.
And if not, then you need to disassemble the nest right now, a bunch of corpses (not well, I certainly mean hornets, but hornets can also defend themselves))) ) and the interrupted life cycle of the nest just to get and dry the larva... brrrr )

In general, at the end of the cycle in the nests of Germanic and vulgaris-a darkness of larvae, and I think hornets will be so. So I think it's more logical to wait until completion and calmly disassemble

throw out the larvae? 0_o why and kuda

I don't know exactly why, but all wasps in the community regularly throw out larvae during the development of the nest, where-yes, right near the entrance! Perhaps they think that the larvae are sick. After all, for some reason they do not feed them to other larvae. In addition, at the end of the development of the nest, for example, polists throw out all the larvae in general! the same thing was mentioned here about the Saxons. Germanicus had never seen anything like this before.
It's just that in polistov, when future queens and males begin to hatch, the wasps start stupidly throwing out all the larvae and eggs. As a result, after a thousand days, the cell remains empty. I had it recently just like that.

If there are no larvae, then each type of wasp throws out those who did not have time to pupate at the end of the development cycle. Here there is a photo of a Saxon worker carrying a larva from the nest , and you can also see young founders on the nest, which indicates the end of the development cycle of this nest http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/saxonica_in_a...ed_cottage.html

Today I was at the edge of the forest, here are some small observations, - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_worker.html

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 08/23/2013 20: 01

I have not seen germanics mass ejecting larvae

I've never seen Germanics throw out larvae en masse

This does not happen en masse, due to the fact that most of the larvae are still pupated, you can see how they are taken out one at a time sometimes.

I checked the Vulgaris nest today.I decided to disturb them a little and got three bites for it(there are a lot of wasps in the nest), when I knocked with a stick, the wasps immediately flew out of the nest(about 100 pcs.) and immediately everyone rushed to my hoodie,I started nailing them with my hand and got off with only 3 bites, and it didn't hurt(well,that I was wearing a hoodie, otherwise there would have been 3 times more bites). I noticed that vulgaris immediately attack the enemy, and hornets only fly near me,as if scaring,but not biting.

I checked the Vulgaris nest today.I decided to disturb them a little and got three bites for it(there are a lot of wasps in the nest), when I knocked with a stick, the wasps immediately flew out of the nest(about 100 pcs.) and immediately everyone rushed to my hoodie,I started nailing them with my hand and got off with only 3 bites, and it didn't hurt(well,that I was wearing a hoodie, otherwise there would have been 3 times more bites). I noticed that vulgaris immediately attack the enemy, and hornets only fly near me,as if scaring,but not biting.

Well, aspects of hornet bites and vulgaris are different, although the degree of aggressiveness depends on many factors. If the nest is severely disturbed, the wasps will be correspondingly very aggressive, both hornets and other species, except polistov of course.
It's a funny story, but why bother them? For example, I enjoy taking pictures and just watching them. Disturb once again as the hmm..

I checked the Vulgaris nest today.I decided to disturb them a little and got three bites for it(there are a lot of wasps in the nest), when I knocked with a stick, the wasps immediately flew out of the nest(about 100 pcs.) and immediately everyone rushed to my hoodie,I started nailing them with my hand and got off with only 3 bites, and it didn't hurt(well,that I was wearing a hoodie, otherwise there would have been 3 times more bites). I noticed that vulgaris immediately attack the enemy, and hornets only fly near me,as if scaring,but not biting.

And what could you expect if the house is beaten with a stick )))
This is also say thank you that there were vulgaris, Germanics could have devoured, and a hoodie would not have helped
And as for hornets, I also noticed that they are the most non-aggressive, of course, I did not specifically tease them, but I climbed with my hands in the hollow tree where the nest hangs and nothing)

I have a grief, the nest in the dacha died, for unknown reasons, there is no one inside, all the larvae have dried up(young, old, those who have already wove cocoons)


But somewhere, probably in a neighboring plot, there is a nest, but I was never able to track the foragers and find out its exact location. And apparently it is very large and thriving-at least 4 pieces in a couple of minutes arrives at the fence, gaining pulp(by the way, they seem to have their favorite boards, because some are completely gnawed and the neighboring ones are almost untouched), as well as other wasps fly almost all over the site, as well as around, in a considerable amount collect insects and leaking sap from cut plants


but polisty seems not only to throw out larvae, I even saw a pupa with a bitten head in an empty nest.
are there only queens sitting on this nest?


This post was edited by Collector - 25.08.2013 16: 42

Yes, polysty it seems that all the uterus, well, maybe there is a prenatal generation, but not enough. I have roughly the same picture. Toset, almost no males. And there are nests where only males sit purely.

By the way, of the 4 fairly developed nests that I found at work by the beginning of July, only one is now perfectly developed, I suffered one unsuccessfully and it died out, another nest died out somewhere by the end of July, and interestingly, a bunch of dead males appeared at the entrance, on the floor, obviously there with the uterus something happened, so we can explain the early appearance of males, because normally we have germanic males appear in the second half of September and early October.
Another nest is now showing a decline in numbers.

So it happens that already quite large nests freeze in development.

Yes, polysty it seems that all the uterus, well, maybe there is a prenatal generation, but not enough. I have roughly the same picture. Toset, almost no males. And there are nests where only males sit purely.

By the way, of the 4 fairly developed nests that I found at work by the beginning of July, only one is now perfectly developed, I suffered one unsuccessfully and it died out, another nest died out somewhere by the end of July, and interestingly, a bunch of dead males appeared at the entrance, on the floor, obviously there with the uterus something happened, so we can explain the early appearance of males, because normally we have germanic males appear in the second half of September and early October.
Another nest is now showing a decline in numbers.

So it happens that already quite large nests freeze in development.

I wonder what happened to mine

and there was an interesting situation with the sheets today:
I plucked an empty nest and brought it, put it on the veranda, later noticed a male on this nest, which apparently decided that this was his nest and even got up in a threatening pose.. then somewhere delsa

And what is in the blockages that are visible there like not opened? If there are blackened corpses, then it is most likely a disease! In general, such wasps should in theory have a number of specific breeding diseases of the brood, such as in rotten bees, here briefly

http://blog.p4ela.org/post434

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And what is in the blockages that are visible there like not opened? If there are blackened corpses, then it is most likely a disease! In general, such wasps should in theory have a number of specific breeding diseases of the brood, such as in rotten bees, here briefly

http://blog.p4ela.org/post434

I'm telling you, even the ones that wove these covers for themselves are withered.
yes, it's probably a disease, which is why the nest grew so badly. It's a pity that they died(

I wonder what happened to mine  

If you remember, I was talking about the extremely small size of the nest when there were still workers. A typical case of a missing female (apparently, she disappeared in the last flights, unfortunately, this happens often. I had the same nest last year. a female also disappeared and grew to a similar size.

Today I found a new hornet's nest in a hollow tree,foraging is weak(8 flying in/out).

I decided to take a picture of the nest and I was lucky-I took a picture of the uterus!:)

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vespa crabro, wow, yes, their uterus is still big
And if you steal it, what will they do )))
Ksttai here you can see that the larvae are clearly there, the lower tier is still without blockages, kstti uterine probably
And 8 is per minute? I think it's not so bad for hornets. Here in that nest that I found one in 5 min.

If you remember, I was talking about the extremely small size of the nest when there were still workers. A typical case of a missing female (apparently, she disappeared in the last flights, unfortunately, this happens often. I had the same nest last year. a female also disappeared and grew to a similar size.

Well, no, it all boils down to the fact that the uterus is missing
In general, if the uterus disappears in such already quite large nests, then usually first the wasps switch to laying eggs and hatching males, and then there are no sealed blockages left.
After all, even if the number of wasps has sharply decreased, then all the same, those larvae that have already been sealed will have time to become wasps, because unlike bees, they do not need to be warmed.

So the version that for some reason most of the wasps suddenly disappeared is also unlikely, because then those wasps that were in cocoons would be hatched.
In general, this is not an unambiguous approach.
Ideally, of course, you need an experiment to save the crusts from larvae and then try to infect a healthy nest in the sl. season. If you get infected, it's a disease. But if it doesn't work out, then it's not a fact that it's not a disease, because the pathogen could have died during storage.

vespa crabro, wow, yes, their uterus is still big
And if you steal it, what will they do )))
Ksttai here you can see that the larvae are clearly there, the lower tier is still without blockages, kstti uterine probably
And 8 is per minute? I think it's not so bad for hornets. Here in that nest that I found one in 5 min.

We still need to get it out of there
There hike 2 tiers of honeycombs, 2 tier uterine, there were seen very small larvae))
8 per minute is not enough for hornets, but you seem to have a small nest

 

and there was an interesting situation with the sheets today:
I plucked an empty nest and brought it, put it on the veranda, later noticed a male on this nest, which apparently decided that this was his nest and even got up in a threatening pose.. then he disappeared

I already brought this honeycomb home, put it on the aquarium, and now, passing by, I saw this male under the honeycomb! it turns out that he did not react at all to the fact that I was wearing a honeycomb, pinned it in a box, shifted it, etc. he is a strange

We still need to get it out of there
There hike 2 tiers of honeycombs, 2 tier uterine, there were seen very small larvae))
8 per minute is not enough for hornets,but you seem to have a small nest

Yes, we have all the nests that I found like this, it's probably hot for these hornets, but our nests are small.
And I think that not two tiers in your nest, but at least three, because in my three in General hornets are some strange, it seems to me that their queens sometimes make nests in the middle of summer, because otherwise it is difficult to explain such a small nest..

I already brought this honeycomb home, put it on the aquarium, and now, passing by, I saw this male under the honeycomb! it turns out that he did not react to the fact that I was wearing a honeycomb, pinned it in a box, shifted it, etc.

Yes, I have a nest at work where there are only males on the honeycomb, the honeycomb is empty, without a single larva, and there are about two dozen males on it, which at the same time defend themselves and when they try to take the honeycomb, they start throwing and "bite".
In general, this is a strange behavior, so they once had a sting, too.
And you feed yourself, you will have in your collection a honeycomb with a live wasp

Why is it so quiet?) How are your nests there?)
Yesterday I went on a sortie, met a stream of queen hornets and a male. Details and photos http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/wasps_on_pyrus.html
Also photographed the male vulgaris - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/vespula_vulgaris.html

Why is it so quiet?) How are your nests there?)

Yesterday I found a hornet's nest at the very beginning of the treeThere is a hollow sooo small, the nest I will not pull out from there.The males have already started to fly out,but for some reason I don't see the females

This post was edited by vespa crabro - 08.09.2013 15: 09

Yesterday I found a hornet's nest at the very beginning of the treeThere is a hollow sooo small, the nest I will not pull out from there.The males have already started to fly out,but for some reason I don't see the females

Females usually come out a little later. This is of course

Why is it so quiet?) How are your nests there?)
Yesterday I went on a sortie, met a stream of queen hornets and a male. Details and photos http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/wasps_on_pyrus.html
Also photographed the male vulgaris - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/vespula_vulgaris.html

Who else is saying why is it so quiet
Briefly while I write-the news is such, the hornet's nest that I found-died, there was some kind of disease, the larvae began to die and the wasps also barely flew, by the way, the uterus stayed in place and regularly laid eggs in cells, but alas, at the time when I came there were only a couple of flying hornets, the nest I took it apart right with my hands, about five hornets crawled, there were two tiers of honeycombs, and a new generation did not hatch in the lower one. After all, their illnesses are not uncommon..
Nest Germanicus my that on the balcony-lives, nests that I found outside the city have not yet visited, I will go soon
Polisty remain, as I understand it, to spend the winter on my balcony in the nest, I really hope that in the new season they will build a nest themselves and not one

In general, we got colder, in the morning it was +14, in the afternoon it was up to +16 several times, cloudy and windy, but there was no rain, wasps almost did not fly at this time. That's just now began to fly more or less.

vespa crabro, you already have, as I understand it, both germanic and vulgaris uterus coming out soon? Interseno would be able to sort out those vulgaris that in / under the tree we have makti germanik come out in mid or late October..

 
vespa crabro, you already have, as I understand it, both germanic and vulgaris uterus coming out soon? Interseno would be able to sort out those vulgaris that in / under the tree we have makti germanik come out in mid or late October..

Soon they will start publishing

So far, we have continued foraging German wasps with varying success, when the weather allowed. But in the last few days, the wasps stopped paying attention to the food of the animal haratkter, and in the germanic nest on the balcony, the wasps began to throw out larvae! So the cycle is coming to an end, and soon there will be a mass exit of males and females, I have already seen individual males. But there are no mass accumulations yet.
I think this season the cycle ends very early, because of this frozen weather...

Today I visited one of the found nests of germanics, so there was such foraging!!! Well, almost like in August, and this is at an air temperature of approx. +15C total. On the balcony I have a minute now a couple of os just crashes, and here it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q539yrf37oU

on Sunday, there were several sunny hours for the whole month.. I ran to the hornets in the woods..

most of the nests are dead, although it is clear that there were queens and males, one could be disassembled: two working individuals and one rotten larva were found, everything else was covered with mold..

in two nests, life was even more warm: one(it was at a height of ~2.5 m on the sunny side) even had males circling, and at the foot I found two large queens that apparently fell out of the nest and could not fly
up in the other (it is at a height of 4-5m on the dark side)because of the cold There seemed to be someone there, too, and a few males were buzzing around the entrance

with larvae, I generally flew again this year(