Wasp nests

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This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 03/16/2014 19: 17

Cute hornets.. WELL VESPULA

It's painfully quiet here!Guys, upload your collections!!!

so for collections there is a separate topic, there and please, and here wasp monitoring [i]

well, of course, I'm always against formalism and other nonsense, but really, it's all about ethology/ecology))
I though obshchesvennymi insects watch and get carried away as I can remember, no collection I do not have ) Rather, there are dry copies in the freezer, but without beautiful frames
There is an eastern hornet, we have caught it!

if you search you can find cool wasp collections
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=168476

Finally, the warming is being transmitted) +20 should be coming soon..it's raining now(

There is an eastern hornet, we have caught it!

But here you can learn more? Where, when? This species is not listed for Ukraine, only one specimen was caught in the Crimea in 1984. It should be included in a normal collection with a label so that it can be included in the list of fauna.

Carcharot, well, we have, in the south of the Mykolaiv region, I think in 2003, "label", that is, the time of capture, there is, today I will try to take a picture.
But about the fauna - here the question is ambiguous, maybe the uterus was"blown away" by the wind? Although it is strange, in theory it should be very decent drifts, since for the successful foundation of the nest you need more than one queen, given the percentage of failures, and I found a working wasp, that is, the nest was already founded in theory. I wonder where they come from, but I understand no one has found them yet.
I did find a red wasp with the nest, but I never saw another red wasp after that incident.

The red wasp is common here, but the eastern hornet is also one worker for all the time and that's it. Well, anything can happen. For example, until 1999, no one found an average wasp, but then it turned out to be a normal species, just flying high.

It would be good to take this hornet (with a label) to the Department of Zoology (or whatever it is, in short - zoologists) of the University of Kherson, where serious experts on public wasps are sitting, they will immediately write a note.

How does it fly high?? In principle, I do not quite understand what is the limiting factor for red, forest, medium and Saxon wasps, or rather it seems to be clear that the presence of forests, so we do not have them, but the Saxon wasp is also clearly limited in latitude, but what is also not clear. In the Crimea on the South Coast there is a forest and a low temperature, so they probably live there all together, maybe even Saxon ones.

In Kherson Rusina is, but...)))

By the way, about the rarity of nests, the same rufa, forest wasps, eastern hornets-there's Germanica, well, much more numerous!!! and try to warm up the nest ! ))
I thought even earlier that the dog would be trained, well, or ideally attach radio tags to working oss.

But what? Are you going to make the discovery public, or will it remain out of the public's reach?" It's up to you, of course, but we're all for transparency and accessibility of information, aren't we? If you don't like Rusina, send it to Antropov or me, or publish it yourself. No, well, this is certainly my opinion, no one is required to write notes about everything that they found. But I am deeply convinced that such things should be made public, independently or in collaboration with specialists (if anything, I am not interested in publications at all, I have enough of them, I just want the information to be published, whether with or without my participation).
About wasps: we don't have any Saxon ones, there were instructions, but all the material that I looked at (based on which these instructions were made) turned out to be a forest wasp. Medium, red, and forest colors are found in the forest and in cities where there are parks and private plots. They perceive them as a forest. They are not found in the steppe and in the fields, and in the villages there may be, but they are very rare (they are replaced by German and ordinary). Nests of German and common wasps I found in the mass in the attics, and so of course it is difficult to find. But here is the average wasp - the first time I found a working one, and the second time - immediately a nest. I moved the nest home, they lived with me all summer, but I never saw them in the yard in front of the house. Once again, we found a nest in the garden, also hanging out there all summer, and did not see a single wasp, and then we found a nest and saw that the wasps were flying out of it somewhere up and they are no longer visible. Apparently, in the city, they forage only in the crowns of trees, and below they fly mainly in forest clearings, where the grass is juicier and the fauna in it is richer (in the city, if there is no watering in the summer, only trees are green).

What's wrong with this forum? In principle, here it is, information, conclusions can be drawn from this at best not less than from the official publication, or even more, because in the official publication for such a find in a good way there are three lines, and no more.
Moreover, if it is published in some bulletin, especially "quietly" without publicity among interested people, then it will simply go into obscurity. And then anyone in the search the very next day can go to this page, only of course you need the name of the Latin. mention-Vespa orientalis
With paper publications in general, you need to do something)))

I can not deny that we do not have all these "forest" wasps of course, there are also plantings and fairly large forest plantations where I constantly visit, but I do not remember "unusual" wasps, you will need to look more closely.
In general, this group of wasps has a lot of interesting things, for example, an incredibly short life cycle, if the queens and males appear at the end of July, then what they do before winter is not clear, but it looks like adaptation to northern latitudes. Although, on the other hand, polistas are also similar in this sense, and given that the nest arrangements and organization of the group of "forest" wasps are not up to par, and even more so for polistas, such a short cycle may be because they simply have not yet" reached " the realization of the advantages of increasing working individuals in other months-more after all, there will be queens later in the end!
Hornets, by the way, also have a shortened cycle, Germanic mating is almost inclined by November, and hornets have an almost empty nest in September.

Hmm, in general, it's fun, if you compare Germanica with all these groups of wasps-hornets, "forest" and ordinary wasps, then Germanica is the most perfect, it lives everywhere in all senses, it has no conventions and "obsession", it nests anywhere, it lives anywhere-from the tropics to the northernmost latitudes, in steppes, forests, inhabits the urban zone, builds a nest out of anything. Damn, that's where the strength is, and narrow specialization and "stenobiont" are doomed to defeat ))

Hornet 2005 in the middle of summer.

This post was edited by Hierophis - 17.01.2016 02: 38

I would write not three lines, but half a page, and if I publish it in the Bulletin of Zoology, then there will be a DOI and indexing in SCOPUS, which makes it easier to search. A request for "Vespa orientalis" will give over 9000 pages of all sorts of Pedivikiy, in which this forum will definitely not even be in the first half. In addition, it will be difficult to link to it later, you sit and think about how to make a link: author Hierophis, publication date today, 20: 51
Well, in the note, it would be good to specify the storage location of the instance and more accurate coordinates of the find (and the date, but if it is not accurate, it is not terrible).
And no one bothers to post the publication later (except that it will be on the publisher's website) on your page, this forum and scientific networks like Academia.edu, ResearchGate, etc.

Well, in general, I agree that publications are needed, and a full name is needed, because it is clear that this is not only an opportunity to be proud of making a contribution to science))), but also data verification, and all that.
Okay, now in the context of this topic, the main thing is to make more nests, maybe it will turn out to settle hornets on the balcony this season, I haven't watched them in detail yet, especially since there is a chance to check that hornets forage at night(!!). Including on this forum repeatedly wrote. IMHO, this is all not true.

I don't know about hornets, but the workers of the average wasp in the summer foraged with me from 4 in the morning, and maybe at night too, I don't know, I usually sleep at night. And hornets at night often saw birds flying to the light, so that the fact that they fly at night-a fact, but what forage-you need to check what they return to the nest. Although just like that, why should they fly?

I watched the ordinary and German ones at night, no one flies. And at 4 in the morning I get up myself, it's already light
So about hornets-hornets flying to the north, I did not see, but the fact that the same germanics, bumblebees and even bees stay overnight if they do not have time to return to the nest, and fly out of the nest after midnight if you light it with light - these are facts that are established by personal observations. Therefore, it is quite normal. that hornets come to light 1-if they spend the night somewhere, 2-if they have a nest somewhere nearby.
No mechanisms or abilities for foraging at night!!! I can't imagine them
So I can definitely say that neither Germanics nor vulgaris forage at night and do not fly at will

The fact that Vespa binghami and all three Provespa species fly at night and have adapted well to this (that is, the transition to nocturnal activity occurred in the subfamily independently twice) does not exclude that Vespa crabro can also, albeit not so effectively. In short, yes, we need to check.
And what, in serious works on biology (like there are articles in Insectes Sociaux), no one checked this? I'm sure there are publications about this (I don't know myself, since I do solo flights, they don't fly at night, checked). You should at least read Spradbery 1973 "Wasps" again...

vespa mandarinia, how do you know all this about them? )) I am generally interested in how hornets can attack the whole colony, here is about Japanese hornets, which allegedly attack the honey bee nest en masse, but the problem is what - and what means of communication are hornets used for this??? Or do they immediately fly out in a horde after one scout?
And isn't this "collective attack" either a composite one, where a bunch of hornets are from different nests, or simply the result of the proximity of the hornets ' nest to the hive and the attack of hornets individually on this hive?

Again, according to the observations of Sikhs, Germanics do not have special means of communication, they cannot be compared with bees.

What are these magnetic crystals? First time I hear this

Carcharot, no, I read a lot of articles, but I didn't come across such data. In general, it is specifically a discussion of this issue (foraging of ordinary! hornets at night) this is just surrr It would seem-what could be easier, why articles, skolkyo like entomologists and that no one looked out at night to see if they fly, or not?
Here you think about the method of determining the suitable volume of soil for laying the nest by the uterus, about its method of determining the absence of large stones there, about the possibility of calculating the volume of closed hollow spaces, and then the question of night activity is already a dead end )

And articles where exactly it is said about the night foraging of this "Bingham hornet" are there? I just found it in Russian, in the style of "enlarged eyes, maybe".. And provespa is already something far from our usual hornets..

And articles where exactly it is said about the night foraging of this "Bingham hornet" are there? I just found it in Russian, in the style of "enlarged eyes, maybe".. And provespa is already something far from our usual hornets..

I haven't seen any such articles. In general, it seems to be a rare species, completely unexplored. But by analogy with Apoica and Provespa, big eyes are still not an empty argument.
As for our species , I still found a publication on this topic. Hornets have a lower photosensitivity threshold than vespulas, so they can easily forage on a moonlit night, and stay overnight without the moon or in cloudy weather (if they did not have time to return) outside the nest (that's why they fly to the light), and in the morning they return to the nest. Here is a classic article, but there are probably newer works, but I will not look for them anymore.

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Yes, there is something to think about.. Vmsetaki need to start hornets, in that article by the way, the researchers clearly also had problems with hornets ' nests)
The given values at which hornets returned to the nest there are essentially night, well, maybe with a small crescent moon.
But I still doubt foraging even when the moon is full, at least when hunting, but collecting material for a hornet's nest is a special ritual. Toset, they can fly, and what they do at the same time..
By the way, here is a good example of an article where there is a lot of excess, all this could have been arranged in a table, but more extended, the time of departure, arrival, summer intensity, temperature, and not tolkyo illumination
of the PS
Here's a pancake, while I wrote it, I got it, because they used non-system units-feet! That is, it is not in suites, but in 1/4 of a suite in fact, that is, in reality in suites it will be 3.5 times more!!! And this is a completely different picture, then the last returns of hornets were recorded at very dark twilight, and the last departures at the beginning of astronomical twilight, at such a time sometimes even Germanics flew out, but these were literally isolated specimens.
Moonlit night is about 0.2 lux, according to the article, germanics, vulgaris and rufians cannot fly at full moon, for this they need at least 1 lux, and hornets can. But whether they can hunt is still a question..

We should have + 22 tomorrow! I'm going on a sortie, I want to meet vespul, well, or dolichovespul finally :D

I posted some photos on the site , 10 lower photos) by the way, you need to determine the rider, who will help? I'm not an expert on them http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/March_2014.html

A sortie! Uhh, what a day it was)
http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/22_march_2014.html

Another sortie.
Finally took the desired pictures of a secretive female forest wasp. - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/29_march_2014.html

vespa mandarinia, and now we have almost the same Well, what can you do, winter is back)

I saw the first uterus today, most likely Germanic! Until the evening it was OK +17C, and then it was cold...And that's all for now, at least until the beginning of next week at best.
A little winter is coming back to us.
In principle, the weather pattern will be mostly anticyclonal, so it will be up to +10C in the afternoon and sunny, but in the morning about 0C, so there will be no polist nests and 100% search activity of queens until the afternoon T rises to +20 again and in the morning above +5C is necessary.

This post was edited by Hierophis - 01.04.2014 22: 45

Yesterday afternoon I saw Germanic queens again, I think that there will be a lot of them this season, the winter was hot and the current cold snap was not strong, the only thing that is bad is that a lot of nests died out in the middle of summer from a sore, according to my observations, about 9 out of 10 nests that developed by the end of June, then became extinct in August!

Great! Take photos by vozm! We have an average of +15. I've only seen queens so far-polistes, vespula, dolichobespula singly

I saw it at work, there was nothing to take pictures of Oh, I wish I could populate the hornets this year!!! I wonder when they lay the nest, probably much later than Germanicus?

Yes, you still have a long winter will host, and it's necessary, that's all it seems, spring, summer is almost, and on you!

And I'm going on a sortie tomorrow, the weather is docile with us, it's warm.

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 04.04.2014 23: 42

Finally posted yesterday's photos) Well, how do you like it? - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/5_april_2014.html

Today in the steppe on a tree(not a typo) I found such a nest! I broke off a twig and brought it home Well, it's very tempting to make a decoration, no one will live there anyway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weBoBvF628o

wow cool!! and I have a female germanic at home) I found it on the asphalt, since they didn't crush it. without one leg, already recovering, buzzing) feed.

Hello everyone!:)
I haven't been here in a long time...
So, how are you doing?"
We have spring in full swing, the temperature reached +25,many flowers and trees are already beginning to bloom.
I met bumblebees looking for a place to nest, but I haven't met any waspsyet

I don't remember if I threw this video here,but oh well

The video shows how 2 female skaxoniki establish a nest of Oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QroW7jTI6Ow...h-6HNrX7nBBFMOg

http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/27_april_2014.html another sortie

Our Germanics are extinct. After last year's surge in numbers and epizootics in late summer.. This season, I didn't see any nests - I didn't see any working oss! In general, the sight is a nightmare-under the mulberry tree a pile of fallen mulberries.. and not a single wasp. And so it is under all the fruit trees.
The event is incredible, the first time I see this, from the earliest school time I am interested in wasps, and so that there are no germanics..
What kind of disease is so powerful and where its borders are, alas, with our level of science, we probably won't know

Who has it like with Germanics and vulgaris? By the way, this did not affect the polists, but the hornets are also not visible, but we have so few of them that we can draw any conclusions.

Our Germanics are extinct. After last year's surge in numbers and epizootics in late summer.. This season, I didn't see any nests - I didn't see any working oss! In general, the sight is a nightmare-under the mulberry tree a pile of fallen mulberries.. and not a single wasp. And so it is under all the fruit trees.
The event is incredible, the first time I see this, from the earliest school time I am interested in wasps, and so that there are no germanics..
What kind of disease is so powerful and where its borders are, alas, with our level of science, we probably won't know

Who has it like with Germanics and vulgaris? By the way, this did not affect the polists, but the hornets are also not visible, but we have so few of them that we can draw any conclusions.

Same situation. This has happened to all our species, except polistov and hornets, which are now enough.
Other species, such as dolichovespula and vespula, are almost nonexistent. Germanicus had seen the Vulgarisovs several times, but only the workers. Saxon wasp, forest wasp, and media wasp - not noted at all for collecting pulp and on inflorescences, as in previous years. In the spring, I marked their mother nests, but all died, because of the then sharp cold snap and prolonged rains. Now I have noted many nests of hornets , I see polistov on inflorescences. Other species seem to have disappeared)