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30.04.2015 21:59, Hierophis

This is already good, but voobshe it was the hornets that were not affected by the extinction, although there was also something, and the German wasps, ordinary? We have almost no hornets here, so you can't tell if they're extinct or not.

01.05.2015 9:05, Василий Л.

No. Unfortunately, I have not yet seen queen wasps from the Vespula genus. frown.gif But as soon as I see it, I will definitely report it to the forum.

01.05.2015 17:23, Natalie Liliya

Has anyone seen a queen aspen this season, not counting polistov? I have no one, something appears vague doubts.. smile.gif

Yesterday and today, wasps from the Vespula genus flew to my balcony.
Here's a photo of today's wasp.
Ukraine, Zaporozhye. 01.05.2015.
picture: ____01_05_2015_IMG_6628.jpg
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01.05.2015 18:38, Hierophis

Thanks! A beautiful uterus, and the rest of the photos are also smile.gifmost likely a German wasp, but we still have silence, no one..
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01.05.2015 19:40, Василий Л.

No. Unfortunately, I have not yet seen queen wasps from the Vespula genus. frown.gif But as soon as I see it, I will definitely report it to the forum.

Today, about an hour and a half of the third day, I saw two fairly large (about 20 mm) queens of the German wasp (Vespula germanica).

02.05.2015 11:59, аруд

Shanovnom panu Hierophis'u
which, judging by the profile, is a regular participant and which, most importantly, has been declaring in the same profile for a whole year - Crimea is Ukraine!!!
Щiро вiтаю Вас з річницею перебування Криму в складі України!! Do not agree-Kalash in hand - and restore the status quo or in Odessa to the House of Trade Unions-to pour Molotov cocktails in bottles. But do not shit small in the nicknames for a whole year - " Crimea is Ukraine!" This is not a political forum! Such as you have exposed Ukraine to the world's ridicule and lead the country to the fact that soon there will be "Ukraine is Ukraine"!
Sincerely yours!
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02.05.2015 16:21, Hierophis

arud, well, I do not write under your messages and in your topics that you are for the entry of Bryansk into Belarus (Bransk-so they say in Belarus)
http://www.belaruspartisan.org/politic/283435/

And here you are writing, and even telling us what to do and where to go, and this is the essence of all imperialists and "big brothers".
And let's note that I state my position in a civilized way, while you propose to solve problems with the help of weapons, and this is also very significant.

02.05.2015 20:58, аруд

arud, well, I do not write under your messages and in your topics that you are for the entry of Bryansk into Belarus (Bransk-so they say in Belarus)
http://www.belaruspartisan.org/politic/283435/


Well, Bransk - does not mean-Bransk, thanks for the hint-missed the "y" - now it will be - Bryansk. And I certainly don't write under your messages...
Now once again - for sids with Yakhno-Kovtun-Odarchenko syndrome-this is not a political forum!!!!

02.05.2015 22:45, Василий Л.

Sorry, friends, but let me interrupt your conversation. smile.gif
I want to share my joy! I have already written here that I saw a hornet queen on April 29, but the one I saw today at approximately 16.20 is worth writing in more detail. The fact is that I not only saw it, but even caught it. I'm sorry, dear Hierophis, I couldn't resist shuffle.gif- she was sitting quietly on the ground and it was only necessary to cover her with a net; besides, you yourself wrote that hornets are not an endangered species on the territory of Ukrainesmile.gif, and who would like a hornet's nest in their yard? So I had caught the womb and killed it, which gave me a good look at its size. The uterus was really huge! Here are its characteristics: body length-35 mm (by the way, according to Wikipedia, this is the upper limit of the size of the uterus of hornets, so I came across one of the largest representatives of this species), the length of the fore wing - 28 mm, and accordingly, the wingspan-56 mm, the length of the stinger-3 mm, and the size of the mandibles-5 Mm! A real monster in hymenopteran fauna Ukraine!

03.05.2015 10:05, Hierophis

Vasily L., the uterus!!! On a needle!!???
No, well, hornets are certainly not an endangered species, but people, by the way, also somehow do not die out, so it will be cool if some polite gees)) green men will fly here and start collecting collections lol.gif

By the way-a hornet's nest in the yard or on the balcony is generally a dream wink.gifAnd hornets are actually very peaceful, they do not attack, unlike people again lol.gif

About the messages of a certain participant below, I reminded you )))

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03.05.2015 11:32, Василий Л.

Vasily L., the uterus!!! On a needle!!???
No, well, hornets are certainly not an endangered species, but people, by the way, also somehow do not die out, so it will be cool if some polite gees)) green men will fly here and start collecting collections lol.gif

By the way-a hornet's nest in the yard or on the balcony is generally a dream wink.gifAnd hornets are actually very peaceful, they do not attack, unlike people again lol.gif

Of course, polite little green men can collect a collection from us, but I don't want to develop it and get involved in the topic of politics.
Yes, a dream, but in the matter of safety (well, I know that hornets do not attack themselves, as, in other things, most hymenoptera; but if you step on them, for example, then oh-oh(!) it will be, given the length of their sting, and this may happen more than once over the summer) this is not very good. Yes, I was tempted by easy prey lol.gif, please excuse me. mol.gif But it was also done at the insistence of relatives who certainly did not dream of a hornet's nest under their noses, and my sister is prone to allergies. Still, what's done is done, and that can't be changed. In general, I often meet hornets, so I think that this action of mine will not affect the number of this species in my area.

14.05.2015 12:00, AVA

Well, yes, these are Germanic, one even looks like vulgaris, ...


Well, they're all vulgar, actually. Just slightly different forms of coloring. wink.gif

14.05.2015 12:16, AVA

Thanks! A beautiful uterus, and the rest of the photos are also smile.gifmost likely a German wasp, but we still have silence, no one..


Not most likely, but 100%.
It is strange that no one is flying in Ukraine yet. Near Moscow, since the beginning of May, I have already seen rufa, several vulgaris and germanicus, as well as hornets.
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14.05.2015 12:23, Василий Л.

Not most likely, but 100%.
It is strange that no one is flying in Ukraine yet. Near Moscow, since the beginning of May, I have already seen rufa, several vulgaris and germanicus, as well as hornets.

Well, not really anyone. I've also seen a few rufae, three germanicae, and two hornets, but no vulgaris yet. And of course, since the end of the second decade of April, a lot of polysts have been flying.

14.05.2015 13:41, AVA

What, no one really has any nests? smile.gif


Alexey, do you happen to have a male V. binghami in your hornet collection?
I sent you an email to PM, but there was no response. If there is such a male, I would be very grateful for the opportunity to study and photograph it.

05.06.2015 1:17, guest: Antony

Greetings. The polista wasp's uterus didn't return yesterday. The nest is small. There are 3-5 larvae and one pupa. Voprs. Whether it is possible to leave larvae and whether it makes sense(whether wasps will be able to live a full life without a uterus)

If so, then:
How often should the larvae be fed and at what intervals?
What insects to use and what parts of them(containing entrails and chitin, or only the soft part).

05.06.2015 13:42, Hierophis

Larvae can be fed with insect muscles or even ordinary meat, you can feed them three times a day, but alas, without a uterus with such a small number of wasps, nothing will work. If the uterus disappears, we will allow it with an already large nest, then this is not terrible, the nest will live and the males will be hatched later, but it is unlikely that it will come out. So it's better to find another nest.

05.06.2015 15:10, guest: Antony

Thanks for the reply. Today, ugh, ugh, I'm back.

07.06.2015 16:28, nalim

Guys, here you are talking: "It's lucky if the queen makes a nest on the balcony. We need to try very hard to make her want...". And I didn't want to, but she made a nest right in my apartment. I stuck it to the ceiling of the central heating riser in the kitchen. It's about the size of a pin-pong ball. There are about a dozen live larvae. I carefully cut it off with a silk thread from the pipe. But, unfortunately, a little damaged. Apparently, the wasp began to build a second layer of the nest and a hole with a diameter of 7-8 mm was formed in this layer. But I dropped a drop of glue on the place where the nest was connected to the pipe and attached the nest to the outside of the window near the window pane. The wasp came several times and flew into the nest, but I don't know what will happen next. Whether it stays here, whether the larvae survive. It got colder here yesterday. Forecasters promise rain all week, at night +9C, in the afternoon-14-19C. Of course, the apartment would be warm and dry for them, but I didn't dream of such a "neighborhood", besides, I'm going on vacation in a week. Two cats remain at home

07.06.2015 16:30, nalim

Sorry, during the day +14+19C, final

07.06.2015 18:21, Hierophis

In the room, of course, this is a lost cause, but on the street, too, it is unlikely that anything will happen.. It was necessary to hang it in a box like a birdhouse. For larvae +9 is not a problem, just if the nest is flooded with rain, then it will come kapets, or the wind will tear it off. And the uterus will simply throw it and lay a new one in a new place.

08.06.2015 15:33, nalim

As I look at it today, the nest was not flooded by a downpour or blown away by the wind. The main thing is that the wind did not blow away. And it is well covered from the rain, it is located in the very corner at the upper edge of the window frame, and from above it is covered by a ledge of a wall about 15 centimeters wide. The wasp is still visiting its nest. I'm afraid that in the box she would not have found her nest, because at first she "broke" into the window, wanted to enter the apartment, but then she saw/found her nest outside.

08.06.2015 20:26, Hierophis

Well lucky then ) Nests of hornets and German wasps are rarely outside, but there are, so if you are lucky, it can take root. Hornets in general are much more peaceful than German wasps and are usually smaller in number, so there will be no concern from them)

24.06.2015 23:43, Hierophis

Sedge on pins sorry.. )

We don't have any German wasps, we just don't have them, and that's all, right now mulberry trees are falling, there are usually a lot of Germanic wasps flying in such places, but now there is no one. But we managed to relocate a very large nest of polistov to the balcony, now approx. 50 os per nest, honeycomb diameter approx. 10cm.

26.06.2015 21:03, Hierophis

Two weeks ago, I moved it, in principle, very successfully, with the entire population, I used a clever tactic) I removed the honeycomb from the surface, while all the wasps flew off, fixed it in a plastic box and hung the box in the place where the honeycomb was. And in the evening, when all the wasps returned and sat down there-just covered the crib and went home )) And since I shot the nest 30 km away from where it is now, all the polysts remained, and judging by the presence of eggs and young larvae, the uterus (or uterus) is also in place smile.gif

And about those who are on pins and needles this is me so)) But in general, I personally do not really, they are not alive, do not fly and do not build anything )))

26.06.2015 21:18, Hierophis

Well, they're all vulgar, actually. Just slightly different forms of coloring. wink.gif


By the way, I just noticed, but I personally do not see any obvious signs of vulgaris there, in general, they are not very photographed for signs, you can not see the trim, but the vulgaris have a yellow stripe near the eye interrupted by a spot, and there I do not see it in the photo, so..

29.06.2015 11:12, Hierophis

vespa mandarinia, isn't this from your contact group? ))
How do you know that male hornets hatch from eggs laid by worker wasps? It seems that everywhere they write that the uterus lays eggs, both male and uterine, if the uterus is lost, then yes, worker wasps lay eggs, but chaotically, while almost all the larvae die, the larvae are fed through one place)
This is also typical for polistov too-a nest without a uterus is a complete mess )

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Male hornets.
Male hornets come from unfertilized eggs that were laid by the dominant worker wasp after the queen's death.
Males are slightly different in structure and color: males have long, black antennae with curving tips, the antennae in males have 13 segments, and in females-12 segments. Males also have a long, narrow head and abdomen with 7 visible segments, while females have 6 visible segments.
Males are slightly paler in color than females.

01.07.2015 22:50, Hierophis

Not well, you give)) It is clear that if the uterus dies, then dominant females appear, but this is an anomaly, and you wrote it as if it were the norm. If the uterus dies before the end of the nesting period, before the end of the cycle, then a mess begins in the nest - first of all, the uterine cells are not built, and the males are laid randomly, sometimes 10 eggs per cell, while they feed through one place)) and so they come out small, they come out small. I had a lot of such nests and polistin and vespin and bee and even bumblebee, and I saw all this )

In general - no uterus - no order smile.gif

02.07.2015 2:07, Роман Ракочий

and tomorrow I'm on the first serious outing for this summer of 2015, I think I'll find something interesting, although we don't have any wasps at all, but I'll try to get around tongue.gifall the abandonments

02.07.2015 9:40, Hierophis

Ah finally the, I already thought, you os their poor abandoned)) Show me at least one germanica or vulgaris, otherwise I've seen one working Germanica here all season and that's all! =0 I'm not even talking about hornets anymore..

05.07.2015 15:02, Hierophis

And tomorrow I'll go on the first serious outing for this summer of 2015, I think I'll find something interesting, although we don't have any wasps at all, but I'll try to get around all the abandonments tongue.gif


So where?? smile.gif
I was near the house today, I saw THIS, it's just incredible, this is IT! jump.gif

06.07.2015 15:33, Роман Ракочий

Oooh, they're not completely extinct after all)
I have the same sad situation - all the abandoned buildings where I was, empty. Wasps are not present on the inflorescences, nor in flight visually) I saw only one working Saxonica that collected pulp. I didn't see any hornets either , although I did notice quite a few females in the spring. All the other types, the number of which was negligible last year, have not changed this year. Apparently, it takes several seasons and favorable weather to restore the vespid population.

06.07.2015 19:58, Hierophis

I hope that after this season everything will return to normal, we clearly had a large-scale epizootic among wasps as the reason for the decline, and now recovery is beginning, if the sore does not recur, then these nests should already give enough queens to fill the niche as it was before. In general-a sad picture, the beginning of July, and there are no germanics, near the garbage cans and under the mulberry tree-flies and gloom smile.gif

07.07.2015 14:46, Роман Ракочий

Tomorrow is another sortie on the second batch of abandoned cars, I'll unsubscribe.

25.07.2015 18:53, Hierophis

And I have a nest that I moved earlier, smile.gifthe Uterus(or even the uterus) lives perfectly in place, the egg laying is normal, while all the hatched ones are females. The population is very large, this is a picture in the middle of the day, when foraging is going on, and in the evening the whole nest is completely covered with wasps!
So there is hope that the new uterus will overwinter and gain a foothold in this place smile.gif

And Germanics began to meet, not often but there is, I think that in the trail. then the number will recover and maybe even rise.

Pictures:
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P7210003.jpg — (477.07к)

26.07.2015 12:55, Hierophis

Continuing the theme of catamarans.
Here is such a nest)

27.07.2015 12:12, Hierophis

After all, determining the trim is not a very sure sign, I remembered where I read the keys to the difference between dominul and nymphs-here
http://www.aemnp.eu/PDF/46_0/46_0_221.pdf

It is determined by the color of the tip of the abdomen, in dominulas or all the sternite, the last yellow or tip is yellow, in nymphs the sternite is black with a yellow stripe at the end.

Where the tips are visible in the photos-like all the nymphs, except for the one that sits on the board, but it's not clear if the whole sternite is yellow or it's the tip sticking out.

27.07.2015 14:31, ИНО

Hierophis, your instillation of entomological ignorance has reached such proportions that I had to register to insert my five kopecks. For I can't stand this outrage of yours on science any longer. The key you referred to is incorrect: in female dominula, the color of the last sternite varies from completely yellow to almost completely black with a barely noticeable brownish tinge on the top. This is only according to my observations, perhaps it varies even more widely. But all the nymphs that I observed in the Donbass, Crimea and in photos from the Internet, it is pure black, without any yellow stripes. But, taking into account individual and geographical intraspecific variability, I fully admit that some individuals of the yellow tip species do have a place, but I just didn't come across them. Thus, this attribute is not suitable for determining the species. According to my observations, interspecific differences in the color of the penultimate tergite are more stable, but also not by 100%. There is also such a sign as the color of the upper side of the flagellum of the antennae. It is, in particular, mentioned in the text of Dvorak's article, which Hierophis referred to, but was not included in the key. In the nymph, the flagellum is darkened from above, while in the dominula, it is not. But this sign also floats, this time in the nymph: sometimes in one family there are individuals with both a jet-black flagellum on top, and with an almost monotonous orange one. True, this orange color is slightly less bright than that of the dominant, but this is noticeable only when comparing individuals under the same lighting. Thus, none of the currently published keys for females is valid. Maybe AVA will finally create and publish its own?

Very easily and reliably, these two species are distinguished by the shape of the last segment of the antennae and the sculpture of the platypus of males.

27.07.2015 17:59, Hierophis

Wow! Well, finally, we meet the star of the Internetmol.gif, a famous resident of the DPR, a great scientist umnik.gifand a stubborn stubborn fighter for the truth of Ezox jump.gif

Ezooox, if everything is so bad, and all the keys are not correct, then how can you distinguish in the pictures, and even more so in the video, that dominuli and nymphs live in these two nests? It is quite logical, by the way, given the identical shape of the nest characteristic of nymphs, to assume that these are all nymphs, with individual variability.

As for the tip of the abdomen, you need to read the encyclopedia - they write that the color is also shown on sternites, so you can look not only at the lower part, but also at the upper one.
It is better to write, as there scolias maculata suffer from you, that barely survive until the middle of June, and then all die out, poor)))

27.07.2015 18:15, Hierophis

Well...my observations for this year are very, very modest. And there are no vulgaris in sight, and Germanicus is not much, although yesterday I checked the city nest, the activity is quite good... I'll upload the video here.
But in the boards of the wall, as it turned out, there are really two separate types of polysts...the nest that is captured in close-up - nymphs. And in the second nest there are dominuli. Pay attention to the photo of the worker from the second nest, what is turbidly photographed. In general, I want to share a couple of photos. Gentlemen, you really apologize for the quality, these photos were taken on the phone.

And of course the video with Germanics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpachoJCzV4

Return of the nymph from foraging: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtmCJz5nv5k

The fourth part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqP0UhzLAA



Nest of Germanic-it's cool! Living gold among the dreary asphalt) And I saw Germanica today, on the market on the shelves was not visible and on the way home I saw one smile.gif

And what is there in the gap where you can see the nest of polistov-like pieces of paper layer?

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