Wasp nests

More links about the nesting nymph - Provalskaya steppe-is located at the latitude of Donetsk, and despite the fact that it is noticeably colder in winter, in summer temperatures do not differ much from ours - by 2-3 degrees.
Based on such data, it simply cannot be that practical nymphs do not live in more southern conditions on plants, perhaps where there are some shelters like houses in the village, this is true, but in the steppe itself... Considering that polists don't fly far.. So that there were no nests of nymphs-sooo doubt.

http://www.zin.ru/journals/trudyzin/doc/vo...15_1_Rusina.pdf

You won't believe it, but in the Tarkhankut and Kerch steppes there are no nymphs at all (according to the data of annual expeditions), only where there are villages.

Chukcha-pisattel, collage as promised, was not from someone's assholes, but from illustrations and tables of the dissertation of Rusina (so that even one compact image would make everything clear even to such a fool as you, otherwise there is a bukof and a lot of drawings, you will still get lost by accident) .

No, you're still driving.. Can you answer briefly and clearly, why did you add the nymph's sternites in your "collage"? Without a sheet of text?

Yes, of course, I wrote it myself

I don't remember the title of the article itself, but this point is also in the dissertation, here is a quote:
I do not know how to understand the links there, ask Rusina again In addition, I have now specifically found several articles by Rusina about the wasps of Kherson, or rather, links to them, but I can't find almost anything of this in the access.
Here they are:
2. Grechka E. O., Rusina L. Yu. Comparative study of ecology and behavior of wasps in the Kherson region // Proceedings of the colloquiums of the section of public Insects of the All-Russian Economic Council. Entomol.ob-va, 1 Colloquium. Leningrad, 1990, pp. 63-68.
3. Rusina L. Yu. On the nesting of polist wasps in the Black Sea Reserve / / Problems of conservation and restoration of steppe ecosystems. Materials of interregional scientific readings. Orenburg, 1999, pp. 119-121

Also, what kind of Polistes chinensis in Kherson is mentioned by Rusina?

The selected article, judging by the analysis of publications, contains the "key" to understanding the phrase that Rusina uses, supporting the link to this article, the phrase that nymphs in the Kherson region(sometimes she uses "in the south of Ukraine") live in the attics of houses. There are links to this article in various articles.
Here, a typical problem of paper magazines, this article is not found even by Google Academy.

And it's time for you to stop with Krymnash, about wasps, kotoyre all gallikusy, I generally keep silent, especially about the nest on the rose where you can still see the yellowness of the cheeks.

So this is a special offer, a bet, so to speak  
I find nests of nymphs on plants(not one of course, but several, say, five), I take pictures as expected, and Carcharot declares that Crimea is Ukraine, and if I don't find acc. nymphs, then remove my signature

Well, where in this quote is at least the phrase that the nymph was studied on plants in the CHBZ???

I read the highlighted article when I was still in high school, but you have nothing to read it for, because you are so much smarter than everyone else.

What is hinensis I have already written above, you again do not perceive anything at all that differs from your "opinion".

And I also wrote that I'm not saying that the nymph can't nest on plants in the south of Ukraine (again, I didn't notice?), it's just that it nests more often in attics. So your offer of a bet is meaningless. And since you don't want to share the secret of "tarva", you can only assume that this is a clinic. Therefore, I have a better suggestion: stay with your important opinion about the Crimea, the nesting of nymphs on plants and the absence of it in Attics, wintering imagos and pupae of katamenes, etc., and I will not argue with you anymore, as it's like throwing beads in front of pigs. Especially since the time is late, and I have to get up early tomorrow for the nests of wasps (such as you haven't even heard of).

You won't believe it, but in the Tarkhankut and Kerch steppes there are no nymphs at all (according to the data of annual expeditions), only where there are villages.

Why is that? I believe that a person lives by faith. But I would like to know the reason, it's somehow interesting even, you need to believe in the Almighty
Moreover, it is interesting to note that Kerch is a rather cold region, roughly comparable to Donetsk, where, as we have seen thanks to the images of Esox, there are nymphs in the steppes.
Well, now I'm going to have to try to gather some material about the nymphs in our steppes, or lack thereof. Fortunately, it's about time

This post was edited by Hierophis - 30.07.2015 23: 38

  
And I also wrote that I'm not saying that the nymph can't nest on plants in the south of Ukraine (again, I didn't notice?), it's just that it nests more often in attics. So your offer of a bet is meaningless. And since you don't want to share the secret of "tarva", you can only assume that this is a clinic. Therefore, I have a better suggestion: stay with your important opinion about the Crimea, the nesting of nymphs on plants and the absence of it in Attics, wintering imagos and pupae of katamenes, etc., and I will not argue with you anymore, as it's like throwing beads in front of pigs. Especially since the time is late, and I have to get up early tomorrow for the nests of wasps (such as you haven't even heard of).

Actually, I also didn't write that nymphs can't live in shelters, which I specifically pointed out,
and I didn't say anything about imago wintering,or anything, unlike you, but on the contrary, I suggested finding out the possibility of two generations, finding nests, etc. Yes, that's just it seems that you need to argue more than help to understand, because only in an argument can you effectively humiliate your opponent However, the argument has another advantage - the one against whom they argue-becomes stronger thanks to aggressive criticism, alas, there is nothing that would stimulate progress so effectively as war and aggression in this or that in a different form

But that's okay, it's interesting that it's not worth throwing something, beads are over, but whether it's beads, or something else, that's the question In general, "beads" usually look a little better than your angry, full of derogatory conceit calculations )
And about your wasp nests, which I haven't even heard of, no one but a few people will probably hear, which is not surprising, because no one writes about it where it is easy to read.

Actually, I also didn't write that nymphs can't live in shelters, which I specifically pointed out,

After all, this is a clinic:

And once again I repeat-at us, in the south of the Nikolaev area, there are no Sikh nymphs on attics and roofs. They're all on plants, and I've found lots of them there, and I've got plenty of pictures. For me, real data is important, so when I want to find a nymph, I look for her where she is, and when I want to find a dominula-where there are dominuli ))

Yes, but it seems that you need to argue more than help to understand, because only in an argument can you effectively humiliate your opponent

I hate to argue, really. But when, trying to help understand, you meet answers from the series "no, not like that, I know better", any further desire to help disappears.

But that's okay, it's interesting that it's not worth throwing something, beads are over, but whether it's beads, or something else, that's the question In general, "beads" usually look a little better than your angry, full of derogatory conceit calculations )

Please note that you are the first and only person with whom I communicate in this way. It's worth considering why.

And about your wasp nests, which I haven't even heard of, no one but a few people will probably hear, which is not surprising, because no one writes about it where it is easy to read.

Above, you wrote that I do what is fashionable or popular (I don't remember exactly). Another clinic?
In fact, there are really only a few people around the world who are interested in it.
But try Googling my articles in the academy or go to ResearchGate and make sure that, if you want, you can find everything. And complaining about the lack of theses for 1990 on the Internet is simply ridiculous, although they will eventually be scanned, I am sure.

The selected article, judging by the analysis of publications, contains the "key" to understanding the phrase that Rusina uses, supporting the link to this article, the phrase that nymphs in the Kherson region(sometimes she uses "in the south of Ukraine") live in the attics of houses. There are links to this article in various articles.
Here, a typical problem of paper magazines, this article is not found even by Google Academy.
The almighty Google (or its one specific user) screwed up, so how do you live now? As I said before, Googleweather has replaced nature for us. Hold it from the master's shoulder:

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And don't think that it was some "okademeg" that sent me an email-I found it myself on the Internet. And you're getting old...

Here, by the way, enjoy it - http://www.entomology.bio.pu.ru/personal/k...proc_col_v1.pdf
I found it on the first attempt.
I remembered that I had once scanned this particular issue, so that Vladilen Yevgenyevich would post it on his website later... You too, rather than complain about the unavailability of literature, would rather scan something for others to read.

Everyone, good night and successful further proceedings, but somehow without me! And I will help to understand those who at least listen/read the answers to their questions.

This post was edited by Carcharot - 31.07.2015 00: 29

The almighty Google (or its one specific user) screwed up, so how do you live now? As I said before, Googleweather has replaced nature for us. Hold it from the master's shoulder:

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And don't think that it was some "okademeg" that sent me an email-I found it myself on the Internet. And you're getting old...

He beat me to it.

After all, this is a clinic:

No, this is selective coverage, such a bad technique in such disputes
I made an addition where radicalism is no longer applied

Ezox, and thank you for the article, regardless of your sarcastic jokes, too

So I don't follow in the footsteps of Aristotle: I study exclusively our local polists, and recently I've become a little interested in some aspects of the biology of some local ant species. It is you who claim to have universal knowledge of the animal and plant world of the Mykolaiv and Kherson regions, and at the same time in absentia of the Crimea and Donbass. And instead of asking people who specialize in certain groups, on the contrary, you aggressively try to impose your opinion on them, which you have formed on the basis of information that is not otherwise than directly transmitted to you from space. So they point out to you that this approach is fundamentally wrong and generally ridiculous. And you should have written here briefly: "I'm sorry, I was wrong." But no, I've never heard such words from you in all these years, although in our arguments you were wrong a little less than 100% of the time (especially after November 2013). When you realize your mistakes, you always don't admit them, and when you don't care about the laws of formal logic completely, you start playing back and making completely irrational excuses, saying that you are wrong after all, because you understood my previous words incorrectly, but in fact everything was wrong there. And now I haven't deviated one iota from this method of mine.

So I don't follow in the footsteps of Aristotle: I study exclusively our local polists, and recently I've become a little interested in some aspects of the biology of some local ant species.

Ezoooks))) I am certainly glad that you are studying the ants ' outlines, probably due to wasps and pectin ))) But in the meantime, you'd better study the dissertation in Russian software better

By the way, about the fact that this is "not a determinant"- this is more than a determinant, because these tables and figures are designed to give an idea of the variability of the color of polysts, in order to represent the probability of an anomaly when working with determinants, including.
Such are the cases, Ezox))

Well, you asked me to turn off the gas station!

Now for Rusina's dissertation. Solve the problem: the table for the gallikus also contains some secret codes "6S1", "6S2". How can I show what is meant without using a drawing of a nymph from the same work (or an explanation in the text concerning the nymph again)? If you can solve this problem, I will make a public apology.

  
Now for Rusina's dissertation. Solve the problem: the table for the gallikus also contains some secret codes "1S6", "2S6". How can I show what is meant without using a drawing of a nymph from the same work (or an explanation in the text concerning the nymph again)? If you can solve this problem, I will make a public apology.

This problem is easy to solve - you give the actual table and text, everything is in the text, it says what 1S6 2S6 is, that's enough .
Look, you're writing

For one thing, by the way, after studying the situation in more detail and making sure that a typo occurs, you can flash your intelligence in front of Rusna, asking her a question about it, and show "your" attentiveness, in quotation marks-because your "other people's eyes")) But I don't mind

By the way, today, when I was returning from fishing, I was climbing on virgin land, there were a lot of nymphs on the flowers of bluebottle, but I couldn't find any nests

In general, there is still a problem with "attics", it is dumb to explore, in the sense that residents will be outraged. This is just the most difficult moment, because I always collected nests in shelters and watched abandoned factories and construction sites, ruins of all sorts. And they are far from the steppe, and there are really only dominuli, the absence of nymphs in such buildings can be explained by the fact that the nymphs are not so synanthropic, and they need some kind of deposit or virgin land near these very attics.

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Don't tell me if it's easy or hard, you decide.

The drain is counted

Good research: shows the ratio of grammatical and semi-literate people

You know, I'd rather be a little literate than "grammatical", I'm somehow so much calmer

Well, again a typo, I turned off the gas station. Now, if there were "grammatical and malagramatic" ones, then yes...
By the way, just write " Ferstein?" - Illiterate, it's like " Understand?"
S " e" is a completely different story, they even wanted to cancel it somehow by law, but then they changed their minds. Yes, and this key in the standard layout is taken out a little far - it is not convenient to stretch. Or do you have a solid sign that is not ergonomically located? And still, in some cases, it is simply necessary to use "e", for example, to distinguish summer from summer.

Well, again a typo,
By the way, write just " Ferstein?" "Illiterate, it's like' Understand?'

Illiterate, but harsh ))
A solid sign is located at all non-ergonomically, not like YO, but all the same, taking into account the frequency of occurrence, it is taken out, it would seem, quite a bit further than the others, but this is annoying with a high-speed dial

So the point is that it is not there, this extra/missing tag. Or am I buggy? If so, then you have a great opportunity to mock me: just poke at this tag.

So the point is that it is not there, this extra/missing tag. Or am I buggy? If so, then you have a great opportunity to mock me: just poke at this tag.

Yes, cool)) I've been here since 2002, and I didn't know about this, in principle I was wrong, you have not one extra tag, but many
I had to think about your problem, you only get sarcastic, Esox, but you need to get both sarcastic and think

There is a participant who was reprimanded for the most ogoromny post, and you need a comment for the largest number of quotes ))

Bring the number of quotes to 10 or less, and you will be happy

Well, I won't say anything about your analysis of my typos, but I would still write down my interests in more detail, I myself wonder what kind of direction you have there, or are you afraid that the idea will be stolen? ))))))

Exactly.

Mdya) Well, come on, blow up the world osology with your idea

You publish a little more than nifiga. Even on this forum. I also remember being told on the phone how much you dislike all sorts of "okodemigs" and how, so that not one of them finds out, you will take the secret of your mega-discoveries to the grave. However, if you take into account how you annealed the sheets, I can imagine the true quality of these "discoveries". By the way, where is the topic in which you revile Russian and Ukrainian science in general and all its representatives, with the exception of Kukushkin, in particular? I searched , but I didn't find it. Or did you still not have the courage to write?

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You publish a little more than nifiga. Even on this forum. I also remember being told on the phone how much you dislike all sorts of "okodemigs" and how, so that not one of them finds out, you will take the secret of your mega-discoveries to the grave

Esox, what gender are you, male or female?

  
This post was edited by ENO-today, 00: 48

Listen, your message is edited, you're a straight editor

So what? Now, if I had edited them after your answers, covering my tracks, so to speak, it would have been a different matter. Is there a rule that prohibits editing posts? If so, you're only slightly less likely to break it than I am.

And as for my last expression you highlighted, it's quite literary What does Fenya have to do with it? Or do you have any other bad associations with diarrhea, for example? Here everyone judges the specifics of intestinal activity according to their promiscuity.

P.S. I see that our dispute about the species and the specifics of nesting polistov is exhausted and smoothly turned into squabbles over stylistics and grammar. And this is strange, because you have neither of them in principle, and this language itself, according to the logic of things, you should consider, at least, alien, at most - enemy. In any case, I'm not interested in this topic for discussion at all. The topic is about wasps ' nests, and the topic of the forum is very far from philology.

This post was edited INO-01.08.2015 12: 43

Today I photographed the still rather thin "osomet" of Germanica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzYVdNye6EU&feature=youtu.be

There were many young wasps that had not yet been flown around, which, before flying away, made a long orientation flight, and some even immediately returned back. Suddenly it seemed that a male (larger than the workers and with longer antennae) got out. I put down my camera, took out my net, waved , and finally caught two workers. The male either bugged me or managed to fly away while I was performing all these manipulations. I took these two, killed them and still made sure 100% that Germanics, and not vulgaris.

In general, we have more and more vespulas every day, and less and less un - bitten apricots, plums and pears.

This post was edited by ENO-03.08.2015 01: 04

So I turned the gas station back on. I rested for a day - and that's enough, not for nothing did people try.

The nest is normal, judging by the number of young ones (those that hover at the entrance before flying away), the family is growing and its prospects are excellent. As for the prospects of analysis, it's only you who rave about them around the clock, and it's somehow purple for me. And so things are up to my neck. One big empty nest is enough. Although in fact, it may be possible to somehow approach the basement from inside (this is filmed at the entrance to it).

This post was edited by ENO-03.08.2015 01: 11

Today I climbed a lot of ruins at our enterprise.. And I found what looked like a neem's nest in the shelter! Only not under the visor, but in the ceiling, and so huge that it is simply incredible, there is foraging like in weak Germanic nests!

But under the roofs and canopies we have dominoes, and one of the nests was generally huge, there the intensity of the wasp summer was such that it was exactly a germanic nest! It's a pity, but such nests are usually not reached without destructive actions.
But the ceiling lamp with a socket tomorrow I will put it in a bag, and on the balcony

And where are the proofs(s)? If you mean the first photo, then there is almost guaranteed-dominant (of course, it doesn't hurt to look at the" assholes " for greater confidence).

On especially large nests dominuli: I do not know as in Nikolaev, and in Donetsk the abnormal sizes practically guarantee mean that a nest long-term. This one, for example, is already at least three years old:



Despite the fact that it is far from the largest I have ever seen. Interestingly, in some shelters, females willingly populate last year's nests in the spring and, if they lay new ones, then connect them with the old one, while in others, they completely ignore the old buildings and, if they interfere with the growth of a new nest, destroy them. Parasitoid infestation doesn't matter. I don't see any explanations other than special "family traditions" passed down from generation to generation (probably by genetic means).

It's a little late to steal already: 90% of the nests are dominated by us already without brood, and you, theoretically, have all 100%. Here are the galliuxes-they sometimes feed the larvae until October, and the wasps hatch from their cocoons right up to frost. Some frosts catch in the nest and they die with their heads sticking out of the cells.

In the ceiling of this honey is not lit? In general, I have always been amazed by the ability of dominuls to live and raise their offspring in such places. There's also a natural oven in the middle of the day! But they live normally. I did not observe it in the ceiling lights, but in the junction boxes on lampposts and the sides of garbage cans - regularly, although the metal in the sun in the middle of the day heats up to the temperature of a skin burn.

This post was edited by ENO-04.08.2015 18: 39

A nymph is supposed to be in the ceiling, you should at least read more carefully) And under the visor photographed nest dominul.

There is no light bulb in the ceiling, but it is hot even without a light bulb, because the southern exposure is also a greenhouse effect.

And not even one, but two, most likely.