Wasp nests

And this is already interesting! We have 90% of them with empty cells or with individual eggs, on which everyone has figs. Both on the model plots and on my loggia. And this is a 100% fact. Given the climatic differences, I assumed that you should have been deserted long ago. But it turns out that the phenology of your population is very different from ours. Rusina writes that in the Lower Dnieper region there are usually three broods (we have two). Previously, I attributed this to the difference in climate, they say, earlier they lay-they have more time. And, it turns out, there may be another explanation: your students finish later. Why - that's the question! You can assume: 1) genetic features, 2) a larger number of co-founders in the south, which is why each has a lower flight load and, accordingly, the latter live longer, slowing down the processes of family disintegration by their presence. Almost all of our old founders have already passed away, and there aren't many workers left either. And the young reproductive females and males are not concerned with family affairs, they sit on the combs and beg for food from the remnants of workers who can hardly bring it on frayed wings. The eggs and larvae were all slaughtered long ago, and they died.

On the ceiling: I have one nest on the loggia was in a glass jar (though open). There was a jar on the windowsill, where the sun peeked in during the hottest midday hours. On the loggia at this time, the temperature jumped to 38-40 degrees, and in the bank, probably-more. The wasps solved the problem of overheating by frequent water discharges combined with forced ventilation of the wings. The nest developed, perhaps, even better than the other, which was in the shade.

Who has not one way out but two: you or me?

This post was edited by ENO-04.08.2015 18: 59

You have some strange wasps. What do they do all through August and September? In our country, wasps begin to throw out larvae from the nest by the end of September, which is a sure sign that they do not intend to develop the nest further. Before that, it was easy, everything was full of maggots
I have no idea what two generations (and Rusina does not write such a word - broods )of polists are, aren't you confusing them? That is, at the beginning of April, the first eggs appeared, then at the end - the first workers, then at the end of May, the second + males and that-it's all over??)) Rough. Well, let them lay it later, well, then by the beginning of July everything is over. Something's wrong with you

I do not know who has more than one exit there, but my balcony polists, I mean that there may be more than one exit after the present moment (extreme larvae) and the second one is the central area, where the females are now hatching and a little bit - males, and there are already eggs there. And foraging is quite normal.

At the Galikuses ' in early July?? Well, then another plus in favor of the fact that the rose is a nymph's nest, I took a picture of it in May, you can still see that the leaves are actively growing and branches, so hello again to Carcharot ))
I need to look for somewhere there was a gallicus nest photographed in its infancy, I wonder when it was..

Ezoox.. we have such good seasons when polisty lay nests at the end of March, then apricots bloom, so working at the end of April is not my fantasy, but your pipe dream, because despite the almost identical latitude, you are closer to the cold northern neighbor ))))

And by generations, I also mean wasps that came out of the same cell, so - those male and female wasps that are now hatching-this is the third generation. But there are eggs there, I even took a picture on purpose, so I'll see if there will be any hatches later or not.

And not "if it still comes out", but I counted more than 30 cookies today, so here it is.

I'm sorry, the typo came out-in early June, of course. In July-only secondary. And these June ones are the last ones. and they don't happen every year. Most often, the bookmark starts and ends in May. I assume that you have - in April. I also assume that your dominoes (they lay their nests earlier on average) start nesting at the end of March, but whether there will be workers in April is a question. Because March and April are months with unstable weather, there are even frosts at night (read destroyed brood), but even if there is no frost, the average daily temperature is such that the larva will develop for a month, and the pupa-even more, probably (I don't know for sure, since I haven't tried to grow at such temperatures). All RIGHT, polistas usually nest much later than apricot blossoms - not fools. I'll still assume that the April workers are a figment of your imagination. At least Rusina doesn't mention them.

I'm sorry, the typo came out-in early June, of course. In July-unless secondary

A typo is when ochepyatka. And this is misinformation, called

Well, in general, yes, I found the nest of this gallikus, here it is, the date of the picture is 28 05 06, and the nest on rose-one is also around this time, then the 10th of June. In principle, it turns out that it's too late, at this time the second generation of polists is already sealed
Probably because it is cold in the steppe, especially at night and in the morning, and it is warm under the roofs .

By the way, Esox, as a megalopolistologist, tell me when this nest was laid?

Everything is normal in terms of phenology - just like in our country. It's a pity, you can't see what age the brood is. You'd better shoot from a different angle with the flash. And you can count your" generations " after the wasps finally leave the nest using a very simple method: by the number of meconium cells in each cell. They're sitting there at the bottom, like pills in a stack. You'll get cheaper because it's different: the closer you get to the center, the bigger it gets. This is understandable, given that the nest is built from the center to the periphery, and when the first larvae pupated in the central cells, there was still no sign of the peripheral ones.

PS If it was photographed as I said, the approximate date of laying would give, according to the age of the older larvae. But even then it would be necessary to take into account the weather conditions during this period.

P. P. S. Nest balcony you than fotkal, again phone? When will there be at least one photo of your authorship of the nest in close-up?

This post was edited by ENO-04.08.2015 23: 03

Where the phenology is just like yours, if you have according to your scripture, the gallicuses at the beginning of, well, June) lay nests. And here is the nest built on May 28.

There are young larvae in my balcony nest.

And is it correct to call the lid that the larva weaves a cocoon? Cocoon - solid. So this is a cover, well, I call it a signet, as bees are called in the literature, although for the os it is incorrect 30 covers in general, for today it's too much

No, well, Chukchi is definitely a writer. Re-read everything I wrote in the previous three posts and repent!

For example, bees have a signet ring, because bees seal cells with wax. I think you've been keeping bees, so you should know about this. And polistov cocoons, because the larvae weave them from the web a la silkworm. So what if they're not solid? Vaughn, the queen bees are also not solid, but still cocoons. By the way, polysts and a signet over the cocoon are also sometimes made - with paper - but quite rarely and usually not solid, but so, tyap-bloop if only it was.

This post was edited by ENO-04.08.2015 23: 55

In general, I brought the nest in the lamp home. It's a nest of nymphs, and it's big
But since I was scared this morning, it wasn't every time, so Ezox can gloat))))

I, thinking that the nest is attached to the ceiling, developed a simple plan-to come to the factory early in the morning, and while the wasps are all sitting there quietly, remove the ceiling from the latches, cover the neck with a cloth and go home )
And yes, I came, the wasps sit quietly.. I started to remove the ceiling lamp, and it probably opened the last time even with a scoop, all the latches do not work, wasps fly in through the gap due to the fact that one latch has moved away. I had to bend the rest with pliers..
The wasps were worried))
Bent back..
I got ready to remove and cover with a cloth, I look - the ceiling light is removed, but the honeycomb remains stationary-tin!!! there's a light bulb, and Sot osovan is on it!
The light bulb is still 70th year of release probably, but it has not yet crumbled)
In general, I am standing on the ladder, the ceiling lamp in my hands, there are evil wasps in it)) if I take it out/throw it off, the honeycomb will be on the light bulb directly opposite the muzzle, I'm on the stairs, I won't have time to get away)) and I have a ppc, I can't fix the ceiling lamp back, everything is rusted..
In general, there are two options - either throw the ceiling lamp and jump, or close the latches and remove the lamp with wasps.. After 10 -15 minutes, I still managed to close a couple of latches, and I removed the entire lamp, and now the nest is on the balcony. During the day there was already a good foraging

Ezoox.. if you removed this nest, you would probably get so fucked up that it would take three days of washing, and you would have to wash the wall )))))
The nest is located there, by the way, mostly vertically, and is most likely based on the side.

About thefts-here as it says-who has what hurts, he talks about it, and the Criminal Code in memory is usually refreshed by those to whom it is, so to speak, very relevant ) What was the case?(tm)
In my case, everything was official , and they also issued a bonus - for eliminating a hotbed of particularly dangerous organisms, such are the cases.

By the way, I imagine an Esox that carries a germanic nest at the stage of the 3rd tier ) I don't know about the thriller, but the comedy will be zachotnaya.
And the proofs are all at home, I'm not going to touch anything there and take pictures, let them live and settle down again in the spring)

You've got your finger in the sky again. I don't steal on principle, and it's not about the Criminal Code, but a much more authoritative document, I think you understand what I mean. Well, unless I pinch off the stalk of a plant at work, but that's not theft, but assistance to vegetative reproduction. And the code just happened to be studied as part of the university curriculum, you can immediately see that you were turned away from uni before you got to that place. So forget about the psychic career, it's not yours.

That they actually wrote out the award and directly with this wording about a hotbed of particularly dangerous organisms? There's only one of two things: either you smoked, or your boss. I don't know what you were balancing on there and why you have such a bad ladder at the factory (after all, if there is a lantern in that place, then there must be quite safe access to servicing it), but there is no extreme for a neat person in the removal of the polist nest itself. The most important secret: don't breathe on it. Even if you get stung a couple of times, it's all bullshit. And large families of vespulae are generally sucked out by smart people with an air pump and then dug without the slightest risk. But I don't have a pump or, most importantly, motivation.

But you should have refused to take pictures. So, then, we note: Roma got Polistes sp. And yet, yes: your belief in the" theory of horizontal gravity of nymphs "is ineradicable, like a new series of"wave genome".

This is a tough case...
Theft, Esox, is an act aimed at stealing someone else's property, committed in secret, unnoticed. Stalk-property? Property. Someone else's? Someone else's. Pinched it off unnoticed? So-stole. )))))
About "turned" and about "had a chance to study" I will say nothing)

Ezoooks.. you're still Chukchi)) You can't read, just, um, write =0
The lantern is old, rusty, not working, you know)) a ladder - and not a ladder, but a reinforced grating, on which it was also necessary to hold on.
And yes, about "there should also be quite safe access to the maintenance of it" - Esox.. It's a scoop, Ezox.. what a safe access, hung up so that life does not seem like raspberries to workers )

Well, yes, in the damned scoop, people were not held for people, that's why there was a huge increase in the population in Ukraine (obviously, parents tried to breed more children so that at least some of them had a chance to avoid the terrible Stalinist repressions), and now civilized Europe has come, the people have relaxed, and therefore will soon die out.
You don't need to fill it in: it's a normal lamp, painted. Maybe, of course, the wiring is rotten, but it's a penny. A lantern is quite a valuable thing. And if your superiors also write out bonuses for the liquidation of such property, then the current situation in Nezalezhnaya is quite a natural result. In Europe, no one would give you a lantern to take home from work, at least not for free. And with the Dustpan, there was probably a normal staircase leading up to the lantern, only it had been cut down for metal long ago. In general, photos of the nest and its inhabitants, as far as I understand, will not be, so I conclude this fruitless conversation.

This post was edited by ENO-06.08.2015 00: 22

A lantern is quite a valuable thing.
......
In Europe, no one would give you a lantern to take home from work, at least not for free.

Mdma... If it's a valuable item, it's probably lum. lamp in the DPR-a treasure subject to accounting )))
Well, I agree, in the EU such a lantern (painted =0 ) would definitely not be given away, because there are no such ones there! Well, unless in a museum in Germany, at the exhibition with the Soviet GDR
Incandescent lamps have also been banned there for 5 years..

  
painted

Esox.. You're the painted one
The fact that the release of incandescent light bulbs in the EU is prohibited, does not know unless only Ezoks )
Moreover, the great-and-mighty also tries to ban them, but something doesn't work out.. Shibka complex these infections are energy-saving light bulbs, it's hard to make them yourself, it's expensive to buy zapchati )))

In the EU, in addition to saving electricity, they are still very focused on health, and in terms of the impact on human vision, an incandescent lamp has no alternative so far. So the proofs about the ban on the studio. The 75-watt power limit isn't exactly a ban. And even then they did not accept it and are unlikely to accept it. And it was, apparently, only about a separate type of lamps (those very notorious" Ilyich bulbs"), and there are also halogen lamps, xenon lamps, and that's all you would know - incandescent lamps. Do you think this is all banned in the EU? But the funny thing is: you can screw any light bulb with a suitable base into your lantern, even a fluorescent energy saving gallery, even an LED one,even a DRV. So this argument in favor of squandering the plant's property is clearly left-wing.

The only thing I can recommend, Esox, is aminazine.
They say-it helps, you try, no one will know

By the way, Ezox, show off your knowledge, tell me, do male polistov return to their nests after leaving them?

And also - there was some problem with my nest of nymphs. Namely, the loss of many foragers, which is logical. But there are a lot of printed cells with pupae in the nest.
The point is actually who will hatch from these cells, the uterus, or there should be another generation of working oss.
Actually, you need to make a forecast - whether the uterus will go from this nest to wintering, or not.
This is not (light bulbs to discuss)blah blah blah. Here and flash your knowledge and skills )

Well, okay, with xenonovjy-messed up, and halogen? Let's prove that the halogen lamp is banned in Europe. Yes, at least that the usual incandescent lamp is prohibited. And so far only blah-blah and not the slightest proof of proof. Yes, and on Tuesdays: what does the type of lamp have to do with the fact of "eliminating a particularly dangerous lamp"? Now, if you unscrew Illich's bad light bulb and replace it with a kosher LED one (at your own expense), then I would understand what the bonus is for you. In the meantime, there is a fact of bonuses for squandering the plant's property. So let's go!

Well, okay, with xenonovjy-messed up, and halogen? Let's prove that the halogen lamp is banned in Europe.

Cheto at Ezoks okroshka already went, mixing yazykof, and deviations in declensions.
Can you also prove the Pythagorean theorem?

And I repeat once again - aminazine! It will help you understand the relation of the lamp type to the fact of liquidation

This is what you say from your own experience (about aminazine)? And with the proofs of the ban on lamps in Europe, everything is clear, the drain is counted. On this this wildest flood, flame and figs knows that in general about lanterns and light bulbs I consider finished. So to speak, I withdraw all the calibers unilaterally, then shoot yourself. And I'll write about hornet's nests.

So to speak, I withdraw all the calibers unilaterally, then shoot yourself.

I'm sorry I missed your stream of consciousness. Okay. I'll try to answer:
1) not only their own males return, but also others arrive. But they are not very welcome there (up to a fatal outcome).
2) The point, in fact, is whether you, Roma, can distinguish queens from "another generation of working oss".
3) No, the queens from this nest will not go to winter quarters, but will commit collective suicide at the end of autumn. Just to annoy you.

And that's it. I will only answer other questions if you post photos of your lantern nest and the wasp. And then it is possible that it is purely imaginary.

Heh, taki seems to be imaginary. And I have real ones:



This P. gallicus nest was photographed on August 4 at 20: 30. Note that the cocoons form two concentric circles on the honeycomb. These are the notorious broods. Moreover, in the middle of the inner circle, you can distinguish several new larvae, including: at least one child of the fifth age (marked with an arrow):

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Most likely, this is the third brood. With 100% certainty, the truth cannot be said, because it is possible that these cells were emptied not because of the wasps leaving, but simply the larvae that occupied them died and were thrown out. But the former is still more likely. And here is the same nest today, at 19: 40, that is, after almost exactly three days:



Everyone who wants (about Rum - without fail) the task of "nest orientation": find the cell previously marked with an arrow and tell us what happened to its inhabitant.

In general, the situation when such clear circles of larvae and cocoons can be observed on the honeycomb in this species is quite rare, as a rule, there is a chaotic mosaic, due to the fact that a significant proportion of individuals do not survive to complete metamorphosis. It happens that a larva grows in a cell, and then you get rain, hail,"sunstroke". Larva - in the trash (or for food to brothers and sisters) and all over again. And then - all the same again. It is especially bad when the nest is chosen by the female rider Latibulus argiolus before the appearance of workers. Then, in general, most of the offspring disappear. If there are already workers on the nest by the time the rider appears, then everything is not so disastrous: they do not let the female parasitoid breathe, they attack fiercely, only at dusk the invader has a chance to lay at least one egg and quickly retreat. As a result, most of the cocoons still come out wasps. But still, the pattern of the honeycomb is greatly disturbed. In this case, the latibuls missed the nest altogether, there was no extreme weather conditions during all the months of nest development, and the result was a pretty picture. Unfortunately, this nest caught my eye relatively recently, after the release of males, so mapping it, as I do with nests observed almost from the moment of laying, in order to track the fate of each cell, does not make sense. Here it will be necessary to disassemble on Meconia after leaving. And of those families of gallicus that I carefully monitored since May, only one remained alive, and then someone (probably a rodent) chewed hard from the edge three hundred times, as a result, if there are two broods, it's already good.

And here are the results of today's "inspection" of the aforementioned hefty three(or more)summer nests of P. dominula:



As you can see, there is no brood at all, even eggs have stopped being laid. The cells are empty, except for a few pieces with "torpedoes" sticking out in the firing position - the so-called hard cocoons of the L. argiolus rider. The pre-pupae of the parasitoid will winter in them, and in the spring they will blow out the imago of the dark spring morph. The shape of these cocoons is such that some of them fall to the ground under their own weight, and some remain in the nest, such is the reinsurance. A little later I will show you what the "soft" cocoons look like, from which the summer morph comes out. Totally different.
There are no clear nested circles here. But it is noticeable that the very edge of the honeycomb (the lower right corner of the photo) did not give a single brood at all this year. But the maggots were there. Apparently, they were thrown out shortly after the last founder's death. So here, Roma, is the solution to the terrible mystery of why part of the cells of one nest can produce two or three broods in a season, and the other part - not a single one. Is the cognitive dissonance resolved? And if you disassemble this nest on Meconia, the result will be amazing. Anyone who doesn't know that he is already more than one year old could greatly screw up the calculation of the number of broods per season. But I will not touch this nest: maybe next year, according to the "well-established family tradition", the wasps will repopulate it. I still want to find out what the limit of "longevity" is and whether it exists at all.

Meanwhile, the nest of the mentally retarded monogynous family P. dominula looks like this:

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It's still full of cocoons. The strongly convex shape indicates that there are probably reproductive females and males inside. It is understandable, it was not enough that at this time of year, when 90% of the relatives of the breeding grounds were already finished, this strange family raised workers. In general, to be honest, I predicted a quick demise for her, because the female laid a tiny nest, there were no workers for a very long time, someone chewed the edge of the honeycomb, and the place is very unpromising-at the very end of the frame pipe of the bars on the school playground, which is full of people all day. And this nest on a sunny day can even be noticed without a flashlight. However, no, everything is fine with them. But those families that I found the most promising, and which I most carefully monitored in this regard, for the most part either died or were forced to remortgage the nest due to the fact that the first one was torn out by someone bad. And so it is always: whatever family you do not plan for detailed observation, it almost always cuts the oak tree ahead of time, and the most nondescript with the most clumsy nest survives until autumn. The law of meanness.

And yes, in such a "sheet" there will certainly be a few typos. Roma, you should know that I don't care about this fact. So, if you intend to work as a proofreader again - just to warm up your own vision and literacy.

Oh, everyone's awake)

Well, for the fact that I learned so much about polistov, including thanks to criticism of Carcharot, here are his pictures of worms and lyalechek for this

So this is a butterfly pupa! Apparently, one caterpillar was not finished, and it managed to round up, even though it was paralyzed. Interesting. I had to take it, see who would come out of it. There seems to be another one like this, or maybe more than one.

This post was edited INO-09.08.2015 16: 50

Yes, there was such a thing, I took the pupae

We are waiting for you to write in the topic about the definition of lepidoptera. Although I have a hunch that it will be at the same time that you post a photo of your lantern nest of nymphs. And to find the larva poked with an arrow in the second photo of the gallicus nest, I take it, you are weak?

This post was edited by ENO-09.08.2015 17: 07

I found it, and then what? )) Ksttai, who else found this maggot? Esox if you make notes in your scientific papers like this, then reviewers will line up in line-solve quests ))))

Well, you gave me a quest, I gave it to you, and it's all even. Once you've found it, poke it and post a photo. Just try a different editor, otherwise you'll get something akin to Picazo's paintings.

Well, you gave me a quest, I gave it to you, and it's all even. Once you've found it, poke it and post a photo. Just try a different editor, otherwise you'll get something akin to Picassault's paintings.

Poke yourself, and even and odd, to improve something akin to paintings by Picasso

The drain is counted.

Well, I didn't understand, someone else will be looking for an Esox larva and a cell, or am I the only one? ))

No, you're not the only one, unfortunately.

Brrr..
Chet I didn't understand anything, if I'm not the only one, then who else found your larva, and why-unfortunately? )
Vespa Mandarinia has not yet figured out what to look for, and frankly, I am also not sure that I understood what exactly needed to be found)
Carcharot will not look for your larva, it is too elevated and looks for nests that no one has seen
I kind of found it, but I don't see what's so special about it)