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25.07.2013 23:29, Назар

Of course, it's a pity that he will die soon. In the attic, too, the nest is already large, but I do not know exactly whether it is the same as in the photo, or smaller. Apparently there were years of continuers already, too. Does this process only happen for one day?

This post was edited by Nazar - 25.07.2013 23: 32

25.07.2013 23:46, Роман Ракочий

Of course, it's a pity that he will die soon. In the attic, too, the nest is already large, but I do not know exactly whether it is the same as in the photo, or smaller. Apparently there were years of continuers already, too. Does this process only happen for one day?

So why is it a pity smile.gifthat this is the success of the nest, their mission, which they were supposed to do, was completed. New females are potential founders of your spring nests )))
Well, I'll say it like this... descendants of the Saxon wasp genus congregate near the entrance after hatching, both males and females. Moreover, the worker wasps are concentrated inside. So, on the shell, near the entrance, they get stronger for 1-2 days. Then they begin to leave the colony, and do not return. They are currently found on the inflorescences of umbrella plants. Then they disappear for good (sometime in August). And we see them (females) only when they are already mounted. Males-very soon die. They are stingless, so I've watched the birds hunt them myself. Males can also be easily picked up)))

25.07.2013 23:56, Назар

Yeah, so females and males don't fly out right away, I didn't know that before.

25.07.2013 23:59, Роман Ракочий

Yeah, so females and males don't fly out right away, I didn't know that before.

Yes, not immediately. Growing stronger, before the flight of fate smile.gif

27.07.2013 14:05, Hierophis

I went to see the hornet's nest today. No, well, hornets are a force smile.gifOf course, their nest is small compared to germanics, but how they zhzhzhuzhat ))))

http://youtu.be/G7YXnKuMg4o

27.07.2013 14:15, Назар

I went to see the hornet's nest today. No, well, hornets are a force smile.gifOf course, their nest is small compared to germanics, but how they zhzhzhuzhat ))))

http://youtu.be/G7YXnKuMg4o


I also like hornets - beautiful, big and powerful! smile.gif I watched the video, it's interesting that the nest is so small, I thought that now they should have much larger nests. It turns out that their nests also vary greatly in size.

27.07.2013 14:17, Роман Ракочий

I also like hornets - beautiful, big and powerful! smile.gif I watched the video, it's interesting that the nest is so small, I thought that now they should have much larger nests. It turns out that their nests also vary greatly in size.

Nests are also slaughtered. In my region, shershey will now have more nests, and foraging is more powerful.

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 27.07.2013 14: 17

27.07.2013 14:18, Роман Ракочий

I went to see the hornet's nest today. No, well, hornets are a force smile.gifOf course, their nest is small compared to germanics, but how they zhzhzhuzhat ))))

http://youtu.be/G7YXnKuMg4o

In the video, you can see the uterus that defecates.

27.07.2013 15:24, Назар

I went to the garden today to watch the wasps. I also examined the destroyed nest, although I thought it was worth looking at, because all the wasps had already died... However, soon I saw a worker flying into a hole between the boards (previously, wasps to that nest, when it was still whole, just flew into that hole and came out from the other side, crawling between the boards to the nest). Strange, I think, I began to observe further - and found a weak, but stable foraging! It turns out that part of the OS was saved and, if I'm not mistaken, they are building a new nest! jump.gif There are just two boards knocked together, and between them a space as wide as an index finger. Unfortunately, you can't see inside, there is a small gap, but very small.
I also went around the garden, hoping to find a nest in the ground, but I didn't find anything, but I found winged ant queens on the anthill-the successors of the genus (black ants).

27.07.2013 15:39, Роман Ракочий

If the wasps have started making a new nest, it's already too late. There are no storeys of brood tanks , they will spend time building them... it'll be August already. In addition, the uterus, most likely, is not present. After all, it simply disappears after the destruction of the nest. The workers stay, it's just that their instinct is not to leave the nest site.

27.07.2013 15:43, Назар

That is, the uterus, even if saved, will not return back?

27.07.2013 19:24, Роман Ракочий

That is, the uterus, even if saved, will not return back?

I don't think so. If the time is too late, then female Saxonica can no longer fly. Their bellies are too big now. If the nest was destroyed, then there is no chance, even if the female survived. The wasps just won't have time to do the same thing they've been doing since spring and half the summer.

27.07.2013 20:15, Hierophis

In the video, you can see the uterus that defecates.

Wow!!! Thank you, I somehow did not notice that this is a uterus!! But the uterus, and what a hefty one!

27.07.2013 20:17, Hierophis

By the way, more than once I observed the construction of a new nest on the site of the old one that was removed, including with unsuccessful transfers of the nest, when there were many flying wasps left. They build something like a nest even when they don't have a queen. But they don't build honeycombs. They build such a dense ball of paper layer, where they sit together. And if there are very few oss, they don't do this either.

Nazar, it would be interesting after all to sort out and take a picture of that dead vulgaris nest, maybe there is something interesting there..

27.07.2013 20:19, Hierophis

I'll tell you more, I was in my forest looking into the hollow where the hornets lived last year, in June-so there was absolutely no one there, and now a huge nest

Sometimes it seems to me that hornets, and other wasps can teleport from smile.gifnowhere, well, really, because sometimes you look - there is nothing, and then once-and there is a nest.
I generally read or watched somewhere that hornets are supposedly able to move from the old plot to the new one, if they are cramped or there is anxiety. But it is hard to believe, especially in the sense that the uterus is unlikely to be able to take off.

27.07.2013 21:37, Назар

Dismantled the lost vulgaris nest. The material from which the nest is made is quite fragile. The interior space is covered with some kind of spider web, especially the honeycomb. Also found dead oss.
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27.07.2013 21:58, Hierophis

Wow! I told you there might be something unusual. This is similar to the effects of an infectious disease, such as bee rot, and spider webs - developed mold. You should be careful with this nest in the sense that you do not need to leave it where the wasps live, it is better to throw it somewhere far away and even better to burn it.
By the way, it is very likely that the old nest was also affected by such rot, usually it develops by autumn, and therefore I am always wary of nests that are laid near old nests. Therefore, it is better to remove old nests at the end of the season, so that the infection does not accumulate and new nests do not get sick.

27.07.2013 22:10, Назар

I've already removed this nest from there, but I haven't thrown it out yet. The old Saxon nest, which was higher up, I also removed, but did not disassemble it. By the way, in the place where the vulgaris nest was attached to the old Saxon nest, the Saxon nest was carefully "cut off" - the wasps, building the nest, gradually apparently gnawed the old one so as not to interfere. Then I'll burn both nests. Ah, if I had known that the old nest could be dangerous, I would have removed it this spring, and perhaps the vulgaris nest would not have died.

27.07.2013 23:10, Роман Ракочий

Colleagues, you missed something. In the first photo, if you zoom in, you can see two female vulgaris. The first with half of the abdomen, and the second whole, black. The head of a working wasp appears nearby. The history of this nest is more complex than it actually looks.
The second photo shows the head of a female vulgaris. Next to it is another female with half a belly.

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 27.07.2013 23: 15

28.07.2013 0:10, Коллекционер

Sometimes it seems to me that hornets, and other wasps can teleport from smile.gifnowhere, well, really, because sometimes you look - there is nothing, and then once-and there is a nest.
I generally read or watched somewhere that hornets are supposedly able to move from the old plot to the new one, if they are cramped or there is anxiety. But it is hard to believe, especially in the sense that the uterus is unlikely to be able to take off.

teleportation? I've read or heard that termite queens can also teleport..

28.07.2013 16:41, Коллекционер

I checked out a hornet's nest today.. something happened to it, the outer shell was destroyed, the honeycomb was not touched, the inside was empty: no larvae, not a single worker, one dead individual lay under the tree. Who could have done this? the nest is located approximately at the path at an altitude of 2.3 m, but people could not see it, it faces away from the road, in the direction of a pile of garbage. So I think the people option disappears. I looked around - in a nearby tree at a height of about 3-5 meters, another nest, at first I thought that it was also dead, but after a couple of minutes a forager flew in, I couldn't see the nest very well, very high. Maybe they were the ones who attacked?

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28.07.2013 17:22, korshunXX

In Siberia this year, almost no wasps and bumblebees are seen either in the forest or in the country. It was a very long spring and a cold early summer. maybe it did. But there were some very large insects similar to wasps, but about 2.5 cm long. For some reason, I think they're hornets.

28.07.2013 17:49, Роман Ракочий

Collector, no one attacked) The nest has been destroyed by natural causes since last year. It's well preserved as it is. Often, the nest rots at all and splits into sediment at the bottom of the hollow.

28.07.2013 17:51, Роман Ракочий

In Siberia this year, almost no wasps and bumblebees are seen either in the forest or in the country. It was a very long spring and a cold early summer. maybe it did. But there were some very large insects similar to wasps, but about 2.5 cm long. For some reason, I think they're hornets.

These are hornets (Vespa). It is not known exactly what kind, because there are no photos)

28.07.2013 17:52, Роман Ракочий

I took photos of the new hornet nests yesterday.
- http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_nest_i...ed_cottage.html
- http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/hornet_nest_in_wall.html

29.07.2013 0:11, Роман Ракочий

Posted photos of a common wasp colony - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/vulgaris_in_ground3.html

29.07.2013 1:19, Коллекционер

Collector, no one attacked) The nest has been destroyed by natural causes since last year. It's well preserved as it is. Often, the nest rots at all and splits into sediment at the bottom of the hollow.

2 weeks ago, the nest was bustling with activity

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29.07.2013 11:53, Роман Ракочий

2 weeks ago, the nest was bustling with activity

Oh, if so, there could be many reasons. Sometimes there are nests that were destroyed in the very middle of the development cycle, although such nests, in our opinion, could quite protect themselves from anyone.
It is possible that the nest was destroyed by a wasp eater, but this is only a guess. Disease and parasites - unlikely, although it may be. Usually, from parasites or from diseases, nests die at the earliest stages (often still maternal).

29.07.2013 17:49, Коллекционер

Oh, if so, there could be many reasons. Sometimes there are nests that were destroyed in the very middle of the development cycle, although such nests, in our opinion, could quite protect themselves from anyone.
It is possible that the nest was destroyed by a wasp eater, but this is only a guess. Disease and parasites - unlikely, although it may be. Usually, from parasites or from diseases, nests die at the earliest stages (often still maternal).

well, this nest was not even a month old, inside it seems to be 2 tiers.
And how could a wasp eater get larvae out of the combs without damaging them? it feels like someone has chased them away, because there is only one corpse, and an absolutely whole empty nest, with only the outer shell torn apart

This post was edited by Collector - 29.07.2013 17: 53

29.07.2013 20:52, Роман Ракочий

well, this nest was not even a month old, inside it seems to be 2 tiers.
And how could a wasp eater get larvae out of the combs without damaging them? it feels like someone has chased them away, because there is only one corpse, and an absolutely whole empty nest, with only the outer shell torn apart

Thus, we can say that all the working hornets were eaten by someone. Although I have no idea who... wink.gif The fate of this nest will remain mysterious confused.gif

29.07.2013 21:39, Коллекционер

or an entomologist lives in the forest with a jar of dichlorvos and long curved tweezers lol.gif

01.08.2013 12:53, Коллекционер

in a broad-leaved forest, I noticed a nest with very powerful foraging (at least 8 individuals per minute flew in / out)

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01.08.2013 13:33, Роман Ракочий

in a broad-leaved forest, I noticed a nest with very powerful foraging (at least 8 individuals per minute flew in / out)

Apparently, the number of hornets you have this year is at a high level. I also found two more nests: one in the ventilation unit, the other in the birdhouse. Photo reports will be available until Sunday. In my area, the hornet population is also very high this year jump.gif

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 01.08.2013 13: 34

01.08.2013 22:43, vespa crabro

Hi, everybodysmile.gif

This year, I think, will be "wasp". In 2 months, I found 9 good Saxon nests,3 Germanics,but polisty-they are simply unrealistically many(they settle wherever possible).

Recently I went to the forest and found 3 hornet nests in tree hollows, it's strange, but 1 nest has a very powerful foraging (about 20 incoming / outgoing hornets-it's impossible to get close).

Tell me, is it possible to transfer them somehow to a birdhouse (with an opening lid at the top) without a single bite?

This post was edited by vespa crabro - 01.08.2013 22: 44

01.08.2013 22:51, Роман Ракочий

Tell me, is it possible to transfer them somehow to a birdhouse (with an opening lid at the top) without a single bite?

hi)
and who are they?) hornets?

01.08.2013 22:53, Hierophis

vespa crabro, well, the time you chose to transfer wink.gifYou're a hornet yourself, and you're asking about this))))))
Now, in general, any nests are very difficult to transfer and probably unrealistic without losses in the population, and this is much more important than bites smile.gif
You can catch flying wasps in a small nest, and then transfer them. But I wouldn't risk much.
I've already moved a lot of nests since I was at school - and it's always been very bad since July.

And today I went to the store in the evening and saw a hornet flying near the house!

Roman Rakochy, here, and you said that you don't have many hornets wink.gif
The only thing we don't have enough of is polistov, for some reason they have a clear crop failure this year, I think that maybe this is due to a very cold snap on March 30, perhaps before that many females have already begun to lay the foundation of the nest, and then snow drifts and-5C a couple of days at night!
After all, germanics and hornets first always lay their nests and glanves later - they lay them in places protected from the weather.

01.08.2013 23:00, vespa crabro

hi)
and who are they?) hornets?

Yes, hornets)

01.08.2013 23:01, vespa crabro

vespa crabro, well, the time you chose to transfer wink.gifYou're a hornet yourself, and you're asking about this))))))
Now, in general, any nests are very difficult to transfer and probably unrealistic without losses in the population, and this is much more important than bites smile.gif
You can catch flying wasps in a small nest, and then transfer them. But I wouldn't risk much.
I've already moved a lot of nests since I was at school - and it's always been very bad since July.

Of these 3 nests, there is one weak one,which is exactly what I wanted to move.

01.08.2013 23:06, Hierophis

Can you get a nest there?" In principle, if the nest is small, and even more so hornets, then it is easy to move I think! Hornets are easier to catch with the same net, well, or a bottle, if possible, and then carefully catch all that is in the nest and carefully remove the nest.
By the way, they write that the hornet bite is not much different from Germanic. Is there anyone among us who was bitten by a hornet? Me, not once. And it's interesting to compare them. I here is think, need to poprovat sting) still I wonder what the difference smile.gifis

01.08.2013 23:19, Роман Ракочий

Can you get a nest there?" In principle, if the nest is small, and even more so hornets, then it is easy to move I think! Hornets are easier to catch with the same net, well, or a bottle, if possible, and then carefully catch all that is in the nest and carefully remove the nest.
By the way, they write that the hornet bite is not much different from Germanic. Is there anyone among us who was bitten by a hornet? Me, not once. And it's interesting to compare them. I here is think, need to poprovat sting) Still I wonder what the difference is smile.gif

I don't think it's a small nest, but he said the foraging was powerful. I was bitten by a hornet, once. It was when I didn't even think about getting involved with wasps and all that. Somewhere in the age of 12, my friend and I climbed to a hollow tree with hornets on the edge of the forest, when I destroyed the paper with a twig, the hornets flew away, I remember, a lot. I started to run, but I heard a buzzing sound near my ear and a hornet bit me right there. The bite site was swollen, and in the middle there was a dot like this from iodine. A little painful, but I was more scared then. lol.gif
Apparently, since childhood I had an attraction to them, and now the result)
If vespa crabro wants to move the nest, then it will be difficult. Success will be if you have special clothes, a box for the nest and a separate one for hornets. The main thing is to catch the uterus and almost all working oss. But as I know, hornets are fiercely protective of the nest. Last year, when I was photographing a colony in a birdhouse, three hornets flew out and attacked the camera. They are always ready to defend themselves.

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