Wasp nests

Can you get a nest there?" In principle, if the nest is small, and even more so hornets, then it is easy to move I think! Hornets are easier to catch with the same net, well, or a bottle, if possible, and then carefully catch all that is in the nest and carefully remove the nest.
By the way, they write that the hornet bite is not much different from Germanic. Is there anyone among us who was bitten by a hornet? Me, not once. And it's interesting to compare them. I here is think, need to poprovat sting) Still I wonder what the difference is

that year, the hornet bit my shoulder, but I passed the blood, holding my other hand above the bite and there was practically no pain, and when I came home and let go of my hand, it burned a little, I was bitten 3 times this year by polisty, which I understand hurts, not like a hornet.

and that it is possible to transfer nests? that year, in the spring at the dacha, the construction of the nest began not in a suitable place, I had to drive it away( and I wanted to relocate it so much)

I don't think it's a small nest, but he said the foraging was powerful. I was bitten by a hornet, once. It was when I didn't even think about getting involved with wasps and all that. Somewhere in the age of 12, my friend and I climbed to a hollow tree with hornets on the edge of the forest, when I destroyed the paper with a twig, the hornets flew away, I remember, a lot. I started to run, but I heard a buzzing sound near my ear and a hornet bit me right there. The bite site was swollen, and in the middle there was a dot like this from iodine. A little painful, but I was more scared then.
Apparently, since childhood I had an attraction to them, and now the result)
If vespa crabro wants to move the nest, then it will be difficult. Success will be if you have special clothes, a box for the nest and a separate one for hornets. The main thing is to catch the uterus and almost all working oss. But as I know, hornets are fiercely protective of the nest. Last year, when I was photographing a colony in a birdhouse, three hornets flew out and attacked the camera. They are always ready to defend themselves.

I'm telling you that out of these 3, there is one weak nest
I wonder how you photographed the colony in the birdhouse?Were you wearing special clothes or something?

I'm telling you that out of these 3, there is one weak nest
I wonder how you photographed the colony in the birdhouse?Were you wearing special clothes or something?

And then I cheated. In general, the birdhouses were at a stand of about 4-5 meters. I found a branch so long, tied a photo camera to the tip, and set the shot on a timer for 10 seconds. And that's it - I raise the camera to the socket, 10 seconds pass and the photo is taken. Not a bad way - 0 bites, safe, and good photos come out. Now I will always do this in dangerous places.

Yesterday I was climbing on the edge of the forest. Just blooming umbrella and you can meet a lot of different vespids.
Met a hornet, with a captured working Saxon wasp - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/vespa_crabro.html
I also met a male of our rarest species, the red wasp - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/vespula_rufa.html
Another male wood wasp - http://vespidae2012.narod.ru/dolichovespula_sylvestris.html
A male common wasp was also noted, but it was not possible to bake it, it escaped from me) Apparently, since the beginning of August, the first males appear in some vulgaris nests.

 
Met a hornet, with a captured working Saxon wasp

maybe they have it fashionable now?) just yesterday I noticed

maybe they have it fashionable now?) I noticed it just yesterday

Apparently, yes))) There are a lot of wasps, but they become easy prey, especially when they feed on the inflorescences of plants. He seems to have captured an ordinary wasp from you.

dear friends, can you tell me how to distinguish Polistes gallicus from P. dominula?
Is it, for example, gall gallicus?

Is this gall also gallicus?


This post was edited by Collector-04.08.2013 12: 28

Personally, I can't answer, since we don't have a gallicus, at least I haven't met one. Only dominula and nymphus.

dear friends, can you tell me how to distinguish Polistes gallicus from P. dominula?
Is it, for example, gall gallicus?

Is this gall also gallicus?

This is definitely not halikus Galikusthat lives in the Crimea.

This is definitely not halikus Galikusthat lives in the Crimea.

and who and how to distinguish it?

and who and how to distinguish it?

What you have in the photo-Polistes dominula:)And it's easy to distinguish by just one face-http://t2. thpservices. com/fotos/thum4/002/469/k83-249641. jpg

what about one photo? Do I need more options, or I can't catch anyone in Voronezh except dominula?

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My old Saxon nest collapsed in the garden in the barn, a photo of which I posted earlier. I wonder what caused this. On the nest I noticed large black ants, they were carrying parts of wasp larvae to their nest (next to it in a half-rotted old beam, which can be seen in the third photo). The photo also shows several live working oss. And the working wasps that remain from the destroyed small nest under the roof continue to forage.

A collapsed nest in the barn.

Collapsed nest in the barn, close-up photo.

Ants with prey.

Dead wasps in the attic of another barn near another Saxon wasp nest, the nest is alive.

This post was edited by Nazar-04.08.2013 22: 16

see what interesting scheme of the nest I met in an old book

and here's a man with an enviable collection of nests.. http://www.venomlist.com/forums/index.php?...echeguana-nest/

This post was edited by Collector-04.08.2013 22: 45

vespa crabro, why does the gallicus live only in the Crimea? Not only that, ini probably live all over the south of Ukraine, they definitely live here.

Collector, what's wrong with the dominant?

By the way, in my polist nest, something happened that happens in the nests of Saxon wasps - after the females and males were hatched, the polist threw out all the developing larvae and eggs from the nest. And this is at the beginning of August!! And now they just sit on the honeycomb, occasionally someone flies away to forage, then arrives and feeds everyone else.

And what kind of book? In principle, all that ki is one hundred %. The very first and often the second honeycomb of the wasp in August is almost not used, it is empty, and the edges of the cells are gnawed and what is left is built up with a paper layer. There is almost no OS there either.
But I very rarely came across uterine cells attached to the main cells, usually the uterine cell is built separately...

A collection of nests is something )))) It is clear that the guy loves his nests, with the nest photographed in all sorts of poses and options)))
And there he has nests right with blockages intact, I wonder how he did it so that it was not all zavanivalas and kozheedy not devoured. After all, there were wasps in the blockages.
I would also like to make some kind of manual, like a nest in the section, but it is necessary to find a nest so that when the os is no longer there, it is well preserved. and this rarely happens. They usually rot in the ground.

Nazar, and the ants are quite interesting, some camponotuses, vaguses probably!
And so, probably already these wasps that die, flew out and developed, as happens with honeybees, so they die, and there are no new ones to replace them. Nui start all sorts of diseases and rotting in the nests, so I think that the honeycombs from the old nests should be thrown away so that the infection is not collected.

  

Collector, what's wrong with the dominant?

Nazar, and the ants are quite interesting, some camponotuses, vaguses probably!

why doesn't it suit you? suits you) But I want to know what else is there)

and ants are definitely not vaguses, I even have suspicions that they are not camponotusy

Nazar, and the ants are quite interesting, some camponotuses, vaguses probably!
And so, probably already these wasps that die, flew out and developed, as happens with honeybees, so they die, and there are no new ones to replace them. Nui start all sorts of diseases and rotting in the nests, so I think that the honeycombs from the old nests should be thrown away so that the infection is not collected.

I don't know what kind of ants they are, but they've taken up residence in that shed in a half-rotted beam under the ceiling. The beam, of course, was partially chewed out from the inside, since the floor under it is well littered with small sawdust. In addition, small black ants still live there, which also built a house for themselves from sawdust.

Photo of one of the same black ants. I apologize for the poor quality, the ant did not come fully into focus when shooting. However, this photo is already obtained offtopic in this topic.

Collector, can you specify the title of the book and its author?

The post was edited by Nazar - 05.08.2013 00: 25

Thank you for the picture!!! Tomorrow I will post it on the site on the page of Germanics!!!!

happy to help

Collector, many thanks for the picture!!! Tomorrow I will post on my site, very useful for both etnomologists and ordinary people visitors.
Nazar, the Saxon nest. Do not worry about him, the uterus has long been hatched, and this is the main thing

I don't know what kind of ants they are, but they've taken up residence in that shed in a half-rotted beam under the ceiling. The beam, of course, was partially chewed out from the inside, since the floor under it is well littered with small sawdust. In addition, small black ants still live there, which also built a house for themselves from sawdust.

Photo of one of the same black ants. I apologize for the poor quality, the ant did not come fully into focus when shooting. However, this photo is already obtained offtopic in this topic.

Collector, can you specify the title of the book and its author?

Goosebumps are similar to C. fallax

the book "four-winged corsairs" by I. Khalifman. very interesting)

Great book, found on the Internet, downloaded. Viewed it) just on page 249. eta pictory

Great book, found on the Internet, downloaded. Viewed it) just on page 249. eta picture

not just great, it's amazing)

Collector, did you buy it somewhere??)

Collector, did you buy it somewhere??)

given to read on leto

I went to see a hornet's nest today. Along the way, I found a rather powerful germanic nest! This is already three times I found in the ground, now there is something to compare in late autumn.

These are the video clips I took


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And I have my Germaniki balcony for the third time bite In vain I letok located so that the view from the letka along the balcony, only go out to do something there - then the guards bite!
I had to turn the tap, probably within three days I will turn 90 degrees, and then if you turn right away, the wasps will not understand where the tap went)

vespa crabro, and how, did you not want to transfer it? And I wonder if some nest can be dismantled at the end of the season?

 

vespa crabro, and how, did you not want to transfer it? And I wonder if some nest can be dismantled at the end of the season?

I didn't want to move anything At the end of the season,I can get any of these things out of the hollow, but next year you can try to move the nest in June, when the workers are just starting to hatch.

Here is a photo of a large hornet's nest(7 tiers,counting the small one) that I pulled out of a rotten tree.The size of the nest is about 60 centimeters.+On the very last tier, I discovered the mother nest of Saxonica

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I didn't want to move anything At the end of the season,I can get any of these things out of the hollow, but next year you can try to move the nest in June, when the workers are just starting to hatch.

Here is a photo of a large hornet's nest(6 tiers,counting the small one) that I pulled out of a rotten tree+On the very last tier, I found the mother nest of Saxonica


An interesting nest, I didn't see many nests disassembled live, but everything I saw, including in the photos too, was distinguished by capital slovenliness, the honeycombs were always sparse, cells of different sizes, uterine cells are attached anywhere, sometimes one of the tiers is generally crooked.
Germanic still has more accurate combs

And I also want to put up hornets next season, just to find the nest in time! In general, hornets are much more promising for balcony maintenance, because of their small number relative to Germanic and most importantly-less aggressiveness, oddly enough.
So when I made a video of that nest, I put my hand in the hollow, and the guard even threw himself, but because of the slowness I could never bite ))) The first time he hit the hand and flew off, fell and buzzed for about a second or even longer until he took off again, tin )) During this time, I had already moved further away. Then the situation repeated itself, and then again. And not once did it manage to sting, or want to.
And Germanica stings in such a situation without overlays and zboev, sometimes it seems to me that they are at all .opoy forward fly ))))
If I had stuck my hand in a hollow with germanics like that, they would have chewed my hand off and fed it to their larvae during the time that the hornet was messing around

In general, hornets are much more promising for balcony maintenance, due to their small number relative to Germanic

Here I disagree a little. Everyone knows that Germanica can be said to have an urban look. Colonies in the city are easy to survive, because of the same abundance. The loss of several dozen workers a day for the germanic nest is not so terrible as, for example, for hornets.
In urban environments, hornets are more vulnerable... because of their size, they are often hit by cars. In addition, in the city, hornets need to work hard to get food for the voracious larvae. I think that the existence of a colony in the city is possible, but such a colony will be weak, primarily due to the loss of high-value foragers, the number of which is not a thousand, but at best several tens or hundreds.
Quote from Evgeny Martynov on the experience of keeping hornets in urban conditions - " Hornets Vespa crabro L. - kept some colonies. In the conditions of the terrarium, one of the nests lived for more than a month. I tried to keep them in open conditions last year, but the experiment ended in failure - the foragers simply disappeared."

This post was edited by Roman Rakochy - 08/15/2013 11: 37

"Hornets Vespa crabro L. - kept some colonies. In the conditions of the terrarium, one of the nests lived for more than a month. I tried to keep them in open conditions last year, but the experiment ended in failure - the foragers simply disappeared."

it would be interesting to keep hornets in terra conditionsBut only terr needs a large one(about 150 liters).

Here I disagree a little. Everyone knows that germanica ....


, you can say an urban view. Colonies in the city are easy to survive, because of the same abundance. The loss of several dozen workers a day for the Germanic nest is not so terrible

Well here you go The loss of several dozen individuals a day is fatal for germanica even in August
In general, hornets are more slow, yes, Germanic in the city survives not so much because of the fact that there are a lot of them in their nests, but clearly because they are very fast, fly far, fast. And the material for the nest is even easier for them to find, the hornet takes only special twigs and Germanic takes everything from cardboard to old boards.
Well, because of the size and slowness of hornets, of course, more often fall victim to a fly swatter or something else.
But I live outside the city, and you also live in a similar place, you can already see the trees from the window

vespa crabro, do you have natural places close to home?

And the material for the nest is even easier for them to find, the hornet takes only special twigs and Germanic takes everything from cardboard to old boards.


vespa crabro, do you have natural places close to home?

Special twigs?)Yesterday I saw hornets collecting wood from a decaying tree

We have a lot of natural places and there are also a lot of oss respectively

Yes, about special twigs is partly wrong. Naturally, hornets and vulgaris collect material from specific sources. Personally, I saw how vulgaris collected pulp in rotten birch and willow, the colors of wood in two breeds are yellow, and accordingly the paper will be yellow. Hornets also collect material, particularly from decayed birches. Often, a lot of hornets gather at the pulp collection site and make a kind of tunnel into the wood. The width of the hole in the baby is decent.

I found 3 hornet nests today
and there are still larvae in them at this time? I want to add it to my collection

1 at a height of about 6-8 meters, they settled on the very top of a dead birch tree, but they still couldn't get close to the tree - it was overgrown with some bushes

2 in a live birch tree



3 in the most unusual place, besides the nest is 25 percent outside
, with very strong foraging




This post was edited by Collector - 08/20/2013 18: 50

Interesting third nest. You can transfer directly with the tree

Interesting third nest. Can be transferred directly with the tree

this is an oak tree, it will be difficult to open it, let alone move it)
So are there larvae there now or not?

This post was edited by Collector - 08/21/2013 11: 45

this is certainly not public and not even folding wings, but I don't know which branch to fill it in

what's going on there? at an altitude of about 3-4m, a bunch of what looked like rissa males were bustling around a hole, although females were flying nearby, which they didn't pay any attention to at all