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23.06.2020 13:32, MacrohunterLS

Western Caucasus
1 April
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2 May
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23.06.2020 13:34, ИНО

Messor structor and Camponotus fallax.
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23.06.2020 15:21, Gans75

Ukraine, Rivne region, July 9.
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23.06.2020 18:06, TimK

Western Caucasus
1 April
2 May


1. A female from the genus Messor. But M. laboriosus or M. muticus is difficult to say.
2. Female Camponotus fallax.
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23.06.2020 18:06, TimK

Messor structor and Camponotus fallax.


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23.06.2020 18:38, ИНО

If you notice a mistake, give us the correct definition instead of an inarticulate snort.

23.06.2020 18:51, TimK

If you notice a mistake, give us the correct definition instead of an inarticulate snort.

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23.06.2020 21:17, MacrohunterLS

? What could it be? It's not very visible here, but the first two tergites are red. Foothills, Krasnod. kr., Small size, 7-8 mm
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25.06.2020 0:48, Vlad Proklov

Help with wasps at least to the end, pliz!

Krasnodar Territory, Vityazevo, September 2 and 12, 2018, a dried-up estuary with salt marsh vegetation.

1 Pompilida of some kind? about 1 cm.

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The rest are all like sphecids.

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4 Ammophila heydeni?

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And one sphecid from Israel

5 Ashdod, November 11, 2019, dunes

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The post was edited by kotbegemot - 25.06.2020 00: 49

25.06.2020 21:49, алекс 2611

? What could it be? It's not very visible here, but the first two tergites are red. Foothills, Krasnod. kr., Small size, 7-8 mm


Osmia andrenoides Spinola, 1808 ?
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28.06.2020 22:49, Slavinator

Saratov region, Engelsky district, Podgornoye village, June

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28.06.2020 22:51, Slavinator

Saratov region, Tatishchevsky district, Vyazovka village, April

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Saratov region, Engelsky district, Podgornoye village, May

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29.06.2020 13:13, TimK

Saratov region, Engelsky district, Podgornoye village, June



I don't know about the first photo. It looks like a female of some lepto or temnothorax.
On the rest - the glorious Amazon Polyergus rufescens

29.06.2020 19:28, ИНО

Saratov region, Engelsky district, Podgornoye village, June

1 - Myrmica sp.

P.S. The bumblebee is most likely B. lapidarius.

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29.06.2020 21:41, MacrohunterLS

Is it possible to identify an ant? Zap. Caucasus
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29.06.2020 22:05, TimK

1 - Myrmica sp.

P.S. The bumblebee is most likely B. lapidarius.

I like your eternal confidence, Ilyusha, with minimal knowledge. How many do not put in a puddle-does not reach.
But in this case, I really doubt it. Maybe mirmika. Personally, I see three segments in the photo in the mace of the antennae. Mirmik has four. Or am I wrong?

29.06.2020 22:22, TimK

Is it possible to identify an ant? Zap. Caucasus



Genus Formica, subgenus Serviformica. And I personally can't get to the view from the photo data. It is necessary to see the hairs on the body.
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29.06.2020 22:42, ИНО

Timka has been buggy lately!

I originally included this phrase in the previous post, but then deleted it so as not to conflict. But in vain.

And yes, I am Ilusha-for my friends and family. And for any network anonymuses, especially hostile ones, - Ilya Nikolaevich umnik.gif

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30.06.2020 1:02, TimK

Timka has been buggy lately!

I originally included this phrase in the previous post, but then deleted it so as not to conflict. But in vain.

And yes, I am Ilusha-for my friends and family. And for any network anonymuses, especially hostile ones, - Ilya Nikolaevich umnik.gif

Since when am I online anonymous? Both the first and last names are listed on my website. And considering our former long personal correspondence... Have you forgotten? How did you tell me about the languages of ants? I have all the correspondence! It ended really badly. Oh, well. Forgotten, so forgotten. Advice, Ilya Nikolaevich. When defining ants, use the words I think, I think, probably more often. When you peremptorily write something out of place in an area in which you are poorly versed, it confuses people, but it annoys me. And conflicts begin. Why do we need them?

30.06.2020 16:22, ИНО

I don't know. what is there on your site, and here you are anonymous. Pperepiske was some kind of but I don't remember the name. But I certainly didn't call you Sasha there, even in my personal correspondence and before you held a grudge against me for some unknown reason (now I've exponentially found the site and looked it up). The only thing I remember well is that you didn't tell me anything useful there. It's too much honor to keep this stuff on your computer. I'm not a sextologist who collects dossiers on everyone I talk to.

[quote When defining ants, use the words I think, I think, probably more often. [/quote]
But you don't always use it. Moreover, you have recently been using inarticulate snorts instead of the names of ants (probably as a sign of disagreement with the definition, but I'm not good at this kind of communication, so I may not understand what). In general, a priori determination of insects from photographs always implies a certain probability of error. But to write to an ant that, despite the disgusting image quality, is 90% or more percent of such a mirimika: "I think that maybe this is mimicry, and there, who knows" - an unacceptable waste of time, energy and disk space. And you can write that this is the uterus of lepto-or temnothorax, which the ant in the photo looks about the same as the uterus of messor, either under glitches or with serious vision problems. Instead of trying to distinguish all the segments of the gimlet in the pixel porridge, you should look at the habitus - this will be my advice to you umnik.gif
[quote] and it annoys me. And conflicts begin. Why do we need them?[/quote]
Your annoyance from my person arose much earlier than my registration on the forum, and I have confidence that it will not disappear even if I suddenly start using the form "With the permission of the highly respected Timka, I dare to make a timid assumption that this is mirmika" lol.gifBut, unfortunately, you are not my close person, so your psychological state take it personally. Why did you start a conflict with me, ask yourself. I don't need it at all, but I'm not going to humiliate myself to make up for some imaginary guilt.

30.06.2020 19:27, TimK

I agree that I still have a negative attitude towards you from the time of our correspondence. I don't have such a short memory as you do. Oh, well. The correspondence was saved. If necessary, let me remind you of what you wrote.
No one is suggesting that you humiliate yourself or love me. All I was saying was that we should agree not to define the ant differently and not confuse people. You don't understand. Good. Life goes on.

30.06.2020 19:42, Hierophis

30.06.2020 21:04, TimK

Not, well, this is already quite, it turns out that if TimK has defined an ant, then then no one has the right to write another option? Is this already on the list of amendments? ))
In fact, despite my dislike of the mega-expert and empire lover, and my lack of understanding of ants, I actually looked through several pages of different queens, respectively. types and point-blank similarities I did not find, but it looks like working mirmiki, although iNaturalist in auto-detection also gives a couple of similar options that were not mentioned here, but also mirmiki including umnik.gif

By the way, I think I found ischo one incorrectly signed pompilida on the site "wasps of Russia", but what - I won't say yet, because I don't know exactly what it's called, but it doesn't seem exactly as it is signed )




Who says I can't be corrected? I know very well that my amateur knowledge of ants is very low. I'm not even a biologist. Professional military personnel. But on this site, to my great regret, there are no experts on ants at all. (I don't consider ENO an expert on ants. I don't even consider myself an amateur.) And how I wish I had! Very much missed! So we have what we have. I'm also wrong. But it is necessary to explain on what grounds you have formed a different opinion. And then we will come to a consensus. It's not for me, but for those who put up photos. Do you understand now?"
About that photo.
I wrote: "I don't know about the first photo. It looks like a female of some lepto or temnothorax." And he explained why I thought so: "Personally, I see three segments in the photo in the mace of the antennae. Mirmik has four." You can view the photo. If you count 4 segments in the mace, then mirmika. I even tried to improve it with Photoshop. But I counted three. Maybe I made a mistake. What I wrote about. In general, guessing from such photos is a thankless task.
Is this also clear?
About the photograph of pompilida. I don't know much about them, so I put them under the names I got them under. If you have any doubts, please tell us which photo you are talking about. I will ask for help from specialists. Ask for help. To avoid misleading site users. Something like that.

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30.06.2020 21:35, Hierophis

On the ant - here I apologize in general - I was partially wrong, I was knocked down by the fact that the mega-expert wrote that you identified the ant as the uterus of tamno/leptothorax, and I acc. I looked at different queens of these species and did not find anything similar, but in fact you are still talking about a female, although in general, if an ant is not winged, then it is 99% female, well, unless there are suddenly species with wingless males or someone bit off the male's wings)

okay, now about the wasp, it's more complicated)
This wasp
http://www.antvid.org/Vespa/Gal/Cryptochei...guttulatus.html

I think it's not guttatus, and here's why.
Here is what is usually defined as guttatus, and in principle, according to the description in the determinant, it is similar. This is my photo, but you can go to the photo gallery of the os of Kazakhstan and there in acc. you can find the same os in terms of habit as in my photo.

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But this is another "option", also my photo is very similar to here that the link on your site, isn't it?
And this guttatus is similar, but in general, according to the same habit, these are completely different wasps, and we regularly meet more brutal options that are most likely guttatus, and here are those that are most likely not.

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And these are not males, the male is supposed to be guttatus.

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Well, here, once promised-understand, attract) I just feel sorry for catching such wonderful oss, it would certainly be possible to catch them and compare them by keys in detail, all by science and so on, but for this they will have to be killed

30.06.2020 21:42, Hierophis

There are still similar wasps, such as these, but these are still generally other wasps, probably this is Episyron, you don't even have them on the site, it's unlikely that the white border can be erased so much, and the same habit of these oss, unlike cryptocheilus, is completely stupid

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30.06.2020 21:46, Hierophis

Just not guttatus and guttulatus, I always do not write this name correctly))

30.06.2020 21:48, TimK

 
In fact, despite my dislike of the mega-expert and empire lover, and my lack of understanding of ants, I actually looked through several pages of different queens, respectively. I didn't find any direct similarities, but it's similar to the workers of Mirmiki,


Look again carefully. Have you ever seen such a prominent, smooth back on the workers of mirmiki? They're always wrinkly! And the back is much thinner. Perhaps, of course, a female myrmica. In some species, females are the size of a worker. But I don't see the fourth segment in the mace! ENO noticed Usyk's mace only after my comment. Expert!

30.06.2020 21:55, Hierophis

Well, personally, I don't understand ants at all, I only know reapers and Ethiopian camponotuses well, because they live everywhere at homejump.gif, So I can only compare them from the pictures, yes, it looks like a myrmiki uterus, but the number of segments there is really not clear, I opened this photo in full size, nicho there I can't understand)

30.06.2020 21:55, TimK

The pompilide in the Cazenas Gallery was defined by S. L. Zonstein. I made a mistake once. There may be a mistake with this one. If I figure it out, I'll let you know.

01.07.2020 21:42, ИНО

I agree that I still have a negative attitude towards you from the time of our correspondence. I don't have such a short memory as you do. Oh, well. The correspondence was saved. If necessary, let me remind you of what you wrote.

And what is criminal? I remember exactly that there was nothing offensive there, if you do not consider as such the confused names of the segments of the mustache smile.gifAnd carry water to the offended ones lol.gif

01.07.2020 21:49, ИНО

About that cryptoheilus. I have already written that I could not determine this (but I can not guarantee that this is exactly what) by Green - I stupidly did not go into the key (some of the signs fit the thesis, some - under the antithesis). I wanted to look at the collection of Donna, but there was no such thing. In general, a really specialist, or at least a good modern determinant is needed, a difficult group of species.

02.07.2020 15:20, MacrohunterLS

Redd. kr. foothills ?? andrena, whether such, or from melittid, about 12 mm

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This post was edited by MacrohunterLS - 02.07.2020 15: 23

02.07.2020 15:34, ИНО

IMHO explicit andrena.

02.07.2020 20:28, TimK

 
This wasp
http://www.antvid.org/Vespa/Gal/Cryptochei...guttulatus.html

I think it's not guttatus, and here's why.



Valery Mikhailovich Loktionov responded to my request for help. For which I thank him very much. He replied that it was difficult to identify species from photographs, but it seems that this is not guttulatus, but variabilis. So I'll fix it on the site, and thank you for the tip.

02.07.2020 20:48, Hierophis

Well, thank you, and Valery Mikhailovich Loktionov, indeed, these" other " cryptoheiluses are similar to the one-to-one images of Cr. variabilis available on the web!
Add Gutulatus too, take it from the Cazenas gallery, there are a lot of them, for example,
http://www.antvid.org/Kazenas/Gal%20Kazena...07-06_0507a.JPG

02.07.2020 21:39, Hierophis

And after reading the determinant, I finally identified another cryptocheilus, and this is Cr. egregius!

And now I have photos of 6 types of cryptoheiluses jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif

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03.07.2020 20:17, TimK

  
Add Gutulatus too, take it from the Cazenas Gallery, there are a lot of them



The problem is that according to Valery Mikhailovich, all five Cryptocheilus guttulatus from the Cazenas gallery are Cryptocheilus variabilis.

05.07.2020 22:00, alexyurch

Who could it be? Rather large wasps, about 20 mm, dig burrows in the Kherson region of Ukraine, near the coast of Sivash.
Clearly from the genus Sphecius, but I can't identify the species. They are similar to Sphecius lutescens, but they write that they are not found on the territory of Ukraine.

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05.07.2020 22:19, Hierophis

Sphecius antennatus similar)

06.07.2020 0:58, alexyurch

Sphecius antennatus is similar )


It looks like it's them. Antennatus larvae feed on cicadas. It is not surprising that I have not seen this species further north in Ukraine.

They write that " Sphecius antennatus (Klug, 1845). A fairly rare species of burrowing wasps, one of the largest representatives of the family. In the Crimea, it is found in the central steppe part (the village of Sovetskoye, the vicinity of Yevpatoria: Lake Moynaki), on the Kerch Peninsula (Kazantipsky Nature Reserve), in the foothills (Simferopol, Old Crimea) and on the southern coast (Lisya Bay, Tikhaya Bay, Karadag [16], Yalta Reserve). It hunts song cicadas. Material: Moscow, Simferopol, Salgirka, 11.07.1927 (TNU)."

In theory, they should not be in the Kherson region, but probably global warming has affected. :-)

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