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21.07.2009 19:54, akulich-sibiria

I'm not a professional on weevils, it seems to me lapathi, proosto top zaterty copy, and how many did you catch two of them?if there are a dozen and a couple of unusual colors come across ,then this is normal


well, a dozen is a lot for me, I caught 6 pieces. but I caught instances that were visually different, so if it was lost, it was already on the branch, I have 2 pieces of such an unusual color

21.07.2009 20:16, Liparus

well, a dozen is a lot for me, I caught 6 pieces. but I caught specimens that were visually different, so if it was lost, it was already on the branch, I have 2 pieces of such an unusual color

And when did you catch it?

well, everything is clear caught different specimens, chose a couple of different colors, other species simply can not be!Well, would Gryptorhynchus lapathi share its food plant with other similar species...
just maybe something is called the second instance, there is some form,or variation smile.gif
I recently caught lixusov so among the series caught two kids,but still it's one kind, even throw off here is not going to..
I can't imagine what's going on in the tropics if we're in complete disarray in the Palearctic lol.gif

This post was edited by Liparus - 07/21/2009 20: 19

22.07.2009 6:20, Guest

And when did you catch it?

well, everything is clear caught different specimens, chose a couple of different colors, other species simply can not be!Well, would Gryptorhynchus lapathi share its food plant with other similar species...
just maybe something is called the second instance, there is some form,or variation smile.gif
I recently caught lixusov so among the series caught two kids,but still it's one kind, even throw off here is not going to..
I can't imagine what's going on in the tropics if we're in complete disarray in the Palearctic lol.gif

this is Akulich-Sibiria, caught just recently. Last week, on a willow tree, there were poplars nearby. I have seen such a view in the Kuznetsk Alatau on willow.
Well, it just doesn't make sense for me to catch a lot of the same thing. I'm also a little familiar with this species. So I caught ordinary and colored ones somehow differently. Otherwise, there would be nowhere to put insects smile.gif
Lixuses I also came across different velechiny. also at first I thought that these are different types.

22.07.2009 6:23, Guest

and as for the redistribution of fodder plants, I think this does not happen. There are bark beetles-not just from the same tree, there are different species from the same branch. and even on the same moves different types climb.))

22.07.2009 10:23, Liparus

 
Lixuses I also came across different velechiny. also at first I thought that these are different types.

And I used to think that we have only one type of lixus ,and when I came across Lixus angustatus (Fabricius, 1775), I took it (with thoughts in my head - the largest for the collection) smile.gif

22.07.2009 13:56, akulich-sibiria

But I used to think that we had only one type of lixus ,and when I came across Lixus angustatus (Fabricius, 1775), I took it (with thoughts in my head - the largest for the collection) smile.gif


and it happens too. It seems to me that there is already a flair working here, and when you start to define a little, sometimes you understand in which genera you can find a bunch of things among the same ones, and where it is only variations of one species smile.gif

22.07.2009 13:59, khustochka

Please help me identify the beetles. Kherson region.

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22.07.2009 15:22, scarit

Abscesses (family Meloidae). Most likely the genus is Mylabris

22.07.2009 16:06, akulich-sibiria

I would like to show a number of elephants,I've already posted some here, maybe someone will tell me something else, thank you in advance.
1. Khakassia.
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2. south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory
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3. Pseudocleonus some Zap.Sayans
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4. Lepyrus arcticus??
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5. also Potosia metalica ??
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22.07.2009 17:09, Fornax13

1 - Stephanocleonus sp.
2-Asproparthenis is rather simple.
3-It reminds me very much of some Trichalophus
4 - in any case, it is very similar.
5 - isn't it marmorata?

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22.07.2009 17:17, scarit

photo 4 in my opinion Lepyrus volgensis

22.07.2009 17:18, Fornax13

L. arcticus (= volgensis)

22.07.2009 17:21, scarit

3. I would say Trichalophus leucon.
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22.07.2009 18:05, akulich-sibiria

are lugubris and marmorata two different things??

22.07.2009 18:08, scarit

And 2 is not Aspropart.foveicollis?

22.07.2009 18:10, akulich-sibiria

and what can you say about the past gonioctena?? or it is useless to determine them by their appearance

22.07.2009 18:13, scarit

Valid name marmorata F., 1792 Protaetia lugubris (Herbst, 1786) is a synonym of

22.07.2009 18:15, scarit

Gonioctena in Kemer. obl. 9 species, you have, I think, no less. Identify them by their external address.this is not always a good thing.

22.07.2009 18:34, akulich-sibiria

a series of regular barbels.
1.Corymbia variicornis ?
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2 picture: IMG_8844_.jpg

3.Leptura (s.str.) duodecimguttata ?
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4. Lepturobosca virens?
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5. Leptura (s.str.) quadrifasciata ?
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6. Oedecnema dubia?
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7. Leptura thoracica?
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8. s.nigripes??
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9. ???
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22.07.2009 18:42, akulich-sibiria

it is clear from the bronze plate, I will look specifically at the keys, although something in it nastarazhivaet

22.07.2009 18:56, scarit

To akulich:
1, 2-yes (now it is Stictoleptura variicornis)
3, 4, 5-everything is correct
6-Oedecnema gebleri
7-yes
8-Lepturalia nigripes
9 - Stictoleptura rubra male
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22.07.2009 19:16, Алексей Сажнев

1.2. Stictoleptura (s.str.) variicornis (Dalman, 1817) looks like a male and female
3. Leptura (s.str.) duodecimguttata duodecimguttata Fabricius, 1801
4. Lepturobosca virens (Linnaeus, 1758) probably male
5. Leptura (s.str.) quadrifasciata quadrifasciata Linnaeus, 1758 female
6. Oedecnema gebleri (Ganglbauer, 1889) =dubia Fabricius, 1781 female
7. Leptura (Macroleptura) thoracica Creutzer, 1799
8. Lepturalia nigripes nigripes (DeGeer, 1775)
9. Stictoleptura (Aredolpona) rubra rubra (Linnaeus, 1758) самец
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22.07.2009 19:17, Алексей Сажнев

it is clear from the bronze, I will look specifically at the keys, although something in it is alarming


can't there be a fieberi?

22.07.2009 19:26, scarit

No, it doesn't exist in Siberia, it's a European species. I think it's still marmorata.

This post was edited by scarit - 07/22/2009 19: 32

22.07.2009 19:37, akulich-sibiria

thank you so much to everyone!!! time is already a lot, so I would still put up another ten

22.07.2009 21:26, Sungaya

Is it one view or different?
MO, Shatursky district, Tugolesye, June 28

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22.07.2009 22:11, Liparus

and it happens too. It seems to me that there is already a flair at work here, and when you start to deal with the definition a little, sometimes you understand in which genera you can find a lot of everything among the same ones, and where it is only variations of one species smile.gif

You are right, when I was told that we should have 15 types of lixuses in the region, I thought that I should catch all 15, or even more smile.gif

22.07.2009 22:14, Liparus

Is it one view or different?
MO, Shatursky district, Tugolesye, June 28

yes one species
is 2.6 males, the rest are female
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22.07.2009 22:16, Liparus

Please help me identify the beetles. Kherson region.

Mylabris variabilis

22.07.2009 22:50, Fornax13

You are right, when I was told that we should have 15 types of lixus in the region, I thought that I should catch all 15, or even more smile.gif

There are 17 species of lixus in our small territory, and it is not clear whether there are 1 or 2 species with one of them. So I think you should have at least that.
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23.07.2009 6:46, Sungaya

yes one species
2,6 males, the rest females

What's it called? And is there any special name for the black form (4)?

This post was edited by Sungaya - 07/23/2009 06: 47

23.07.2009 9:11, Liparus

What's it called? And is there any special name for the black form (4)?

Monochamus sutor (Linnaeus, 1758)

Better spread their sawyers out like here in the photo
http://www.cerambyx.uochb.cz/monsutor.htm
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23.07.2009 9:38, Bad Den

Monochamus sutor (Linnaeus, 1758)

Better spread their sawyers out like here in the photo
http://www.cerambyx.uochb.cz/monsutor.htm

I would say that Sungaya's photo also shows Monochamus galloprovincialis pistor (Germar, 1818).
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23.07.2009 9:51, Алексей Сажнев

Sungaya: As for Monochamus, really look at the scutes for galloprovincialis pistor, unfortunately you can't see them in the photo, and there are 3 species of this genus in MO. galloprovincialis can also be seen from below - it has a thick at least part of the red or yellow cover

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 07/23/2009 09: 57
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23.07.2009 15:59, Sungaya

I apologize for my ignorance, but what are flaps? And what should they show?
And what is the third species in the MO besides galloprovincialis and sutor?

23.07.2009 17:16, Алексей Сажнев

Well, in simple words, the shield is located between the elytra at their base, it is a plate of the mid-thorax, often triangular in shape. In addition to these two monogamous species, there are also urussovi in MO (Fischer von Waldheim, 1806).
The scutes of these species are approximately as follows: http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/monochky.htm
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23.07.2009 18:55, Sungaya

Well, in simple words, the shield is located between the elytra at their base, it is a plate of the mid-thorax, often triangular in shape. In addition to these two monogamous species, there are also urussovi in MO (Fischer von Waldheim, 1806).
The scutes of these species are approximately as follows: http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/monochky.htm


All beetles on the bottom are the same brown color.
On the shields, you can see the separation of at least a thin strip almost to the end. And on the black female, too. According to the shield pattern, all beetles are M. sutor., right?
Only one specimen with an incomprehensible shield, it is all hairy and there is no separation visible on it. The beetle is small, 14 mm. The female. The bottom is the same brown as all the others. Here's his shield. Who is it?

This post was edited by Sungaya - 23.07.2009 18: 55

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23.07.2009 19:00, Sungaya

I would say that Sungaya's photo also shows Monochamus galloprovincialis pistor (Germar, 1818).

which instance is suspected and why?

23.07.2009 19:32, Алексей Сажнев

Is there a transverse indentation in the main third of the elytra? And what kind of instance is this by number from the general photo?

23.07.2009 20:00, Sungaya

Is there a transverse indentation in the main third of the elytra? And what kind of instance is this by number from the general photo?


I didn't find any transverse indentations. In any case, there is no difference in the relief of the elytra from other beetles.
This copy. not in the previous "shared" photo.
Here it is:

This post was edited by Sungaya - 23.07.2009 20: 00

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