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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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19.07.2008 23:58, Ilia Ustiantcev

Ognevki. Moths and other scoops (there are now more of them than moths) will be posted in a week with replenishment from the Pskov region. smile.gif
1.user posted imageMoscow. Catoptria pinella?
2.user posted imageMoscow.
3.user posted imageEvergestis extimalis?
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5.user posted image
6.user posted imageI don't think it's a firefly, but it's a very strange creature.
7.user posted imageNymphula nitidulata?
8.user posted imageIs this the only Pyralidae in the message?

20.07.2008 0:08, Vlad Proklov

Ognevki. Moths and other scoops (there are now more of them than moths) will be posted in a week with replenishment from the Pskov region. smile.gif

1, 3, 7-yes.

2 - Udea prunalis
4 - Scoparia ?ambigualis
5 - Eudonia lacustrata
6 - Epiblema foenella
8 - Nyctegretis lineana
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20.07.2008 11:23, Zhuk


11 - I don't know.

In my opinion Ectropis crepuscularia.
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20.07.2008 14:44, okoem

 
3-like, Z. lonicerae


Not... it doesn't look like it. Judging by the fact that the red belt is visible (in the" distant " butterfly), it should be Zygaena cynarae, but... it is not given for the MO... Although I can assume that viciae can also sometimes be with a belt. So IMHO, libu cynarae, or viciae.


5, 6 - in my opinion, whether both N. aerugula

IMHO, both are aerugula.

2 bials
#3-Sorry, I'm not a collector, but an amateur photographer. What am I going to do with it?

Dear bials, it is not always possible to correctly identify a butterfly from a photo. Even experts viewing this forum make mistakes in identifying photos of complex views. If you are interested in 100% correct definitions, and not guessing, then you should definitely collect butterflies after taking photos. Take the time to read Maxim Klepikov's excellent article -
http://babochki-kryma.narod.ru/files/lib/k...o_v_prirode.htm
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20.07.2008 21:07, Guest

Tell me, please, what kind of scoop
user posted image

20.07.2008 21:23, Zhuk

Tell me, please, what kind of scoop

Pyrrhia umbra

20.07.2008 22:54, Vlad Proklov

Not... it doesn't look like it. Judging by the fact that the red belt is visible (in the" distant " butterfly), it should be Zygaena cynarae, but... it is not given for the MO... Although I can assume that viciae can also sometimes be with a belt. So IMHO, libu cynarae, or viciae.

I took a closer look - and indeed!

If there is a red belt there, then this is such a Z. ephialtes!
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20.07.2008 23:45, okoem

  I took a closer look - and indeed!

If there is a red belt there, then this is such a Z. ephialtes!

Nope! The" near " butterfly of the girdle does not have, in addition, the ephialtic spots are clear, but here they are "smeared", and also - in ephialtic the third spot is located close to the costal edge, but here it is distant. In addition, the other day he collected almost the same female viciae (cynarae!?) with a belt, though very weakly expressed.
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21.07.2008 20:54, guest: Aleksey

Hello. Please tell me the name of the butterfly (mountain region USA, June, 2008)
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21.07.2008 22:22, mikee

Having fun with green moths (Morozzz, ow!smile.gif) There is absolutely no time to climb the reference books yourself right now... All from Ryazan region, Kasimovsky district, two previous nights, banal Geometra papilionaria omitted. I immediately warn you about possible questions - all the colors are natural, I only shot butterflies, but I didn't catch them.

Thetidia ?smaragdaria (590)
Hemithea ?aestivaria (550)
??? (589)
??? (630)

21.07.2008 22:34, mikee

Let's move on. Scoop(Noctua ?fimbriata 662), dipper (Spilosoma ?lutea 576), tufts (607, 588, 581) Marked-correct? The others?

21.07.2008 22:36, t00m

Tell me what kind of animal!!! perhaps this is just a female M. neustria... Or maybe not, I found her last week in a cocoon state in the Baksan Gorge near Tyrnauz. thank you in advance. Fogs.

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21.07.2008 22:38, Vlad Proklov

Well, let's get started!
Here are the herbaceous plants that have not yet been identified:

Both -- Agriphila inquinatella.
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21.07.2008 23:09, Vlad Proklov

Having fun with green moths

1, 2 - Hemithea aestivaria
3 - Thetidia smaragdaria
4 - Pseudoterpna pruinata
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21.07.2008 23:13, Vlad Proklov

Let's move on. Scoop(Noctua ?fimbriata 662), dipper (Spilosoma ?lutea 576), tufts (607, 588, 581) Marked-correct? The others?

The first two are correct.
3 - I don't know.
4 - Notodonta dromedarius
5 - Furcula bifida
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21.07.2008 23:34, Zhuk

3 - I don't know.


Notodonta torva

21.07.2008 23:37, Zhuk

Having fun with green moths (Morozzz, ow!smile.gif) There is absolutely no time to climb the reference books yourself right now... All from Ryazan region, Kasimovsky district, two previous nights, banal Geometra papilionaria omitted. I immediately warn you about possible questions - all the colors are natural, I only shot butterflies, but I didn't catch them.

1,2 - Thalera fimbrialis
3 - Thetidia smaragdaria
4 - Pseudoterpna pruinata, по-моему

22.07.2008 0:35, Vlad Proklov

1,2 - Thalera fimbrialis

I agree.

22.07.2008 2:05, YLena

Hello!
Please help me determine the type of motley bird.
I was given two variants of Procris statices and Jordanita globulariae.... I don't have any qualifiers frown.gif, and it's impossible to determine 100% from the photos in the Internet... But it seems more like Jordanita globulariae (Adscita globulariae)

Taken in Israel, April 2008

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22.07.2008 2:17, Vlad Proklov

Hello!
Please help me determine the type of motley bird.
I was given two variants of Procris statices and Jordanita globulariae.... I don't have any qualifiers frown.gif, and it's impossible to determine 100% from the photos in the Internet... But it seems more like Jordanita globulariae (Adscita globulariae)

Taken in Israel, April 2008

I don't see the picture (the site is hanging) - but what kind of literate person gave you such a choice?
In Israel, Jordanita syriaca, J. anatolica, and Adscita obscura are known from green mottles [Efetov and Tarmann, 1999] .

22.07.2008 8:48, okoem

In Israel, Jordanita syriaca, J. anatolica, and Adscita obscura are known from green mottles (Efetov and Tarmann, 1999).

In Israel, there are only THREE species of green mottles?! I never would have thought it!
According to the whiskers and the shape of the wings, this is more likely Adscita sp., so apparently Adscita obscura. But this is only speculative, of course.

22.07.2008 9:34, Vlad Proklov

In Israel, there are only THREE species of green mottles?! I never would have thought it!
According to the whiskers and the shape of the wings, this is more likely Adscita sp., so apparently Adscita obscura. But this is only speculative, of course.

Here's a guess, eh! This is if nothing new has been caught there since 1999. But Crimea is simply phenomenally rich in them, of course.
By the way, I still don't see the picture...

22.07.2008 11:21, Zhuk

Tell me what kind of animal!!! perhaps this is just a female M. neustria... Or maybe not, I found her last week in a cocoon state in the Baksan Gorge near Tyrnauz. thank you in advance. Fogs.

in my opinion, neustria is.

22.07.2008 13:08, Dantist

Jaundice C. hyale or maybe C. alfacariensis ? Kiev 5.06.2008

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22.07.2008 13:23, okoem

Here's a guess, eh! This is if nothing new has been caught there since 1999. But Crimea is simply phenomenally rich in them, of course.
By the way, I still don't see the picture...

I duplicate the image. I never thought that Crimea is rich. I thought there was a lot of this stuff in all the southern regions.

I already outweighed the original image wink.gif

This post was edited by Bolivar - 07/22/2008 13: 30
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22.07.2008 16:20, Vlad Proklov

Jaundice C. hyale or maybe C. alfacariensis ? Kiev 5.06.2008

External -- C. alfacariensis.

22.07.2008 19:28, bials

  
2 bials

Dear bials, it is not always possible to correctly identify a butterfly from a photo. Even experts viewing this forum make mistakes in identifying photos of complex views. If you are interested in 100% correct definitions, and not guessing, then you should definitely collect butterflies after taking photos. Take the time to read Maxim Klepikov's excellent article -
http://babochki-kryma.narod.ru/files/lib/k...o_v_prirode.htm

I read Klepikov's article on your recommendation, thank you!
About guessing. If one or another butterfly cannot be distinguished from a similar one in the photo (but only by dissecting it) and both of them meet at the place of shooting, then what difference does it make to me which butterfly it is? Say either-or.
About the article:
quote - And such bright and spectacular butterflies as perelivnitsa (Apatura ilia Schiff.), mourner (Vanessa antiopa L.) or poplar ribbon (Limenitis populi L.) you will not see on the flowers at all - they feed on fermenting sap flowing from wounds on tree trunks, or liquid rotting organic matter (manure or decomposing animal corpses), and also enjoy sucking wet roadside mud. So a photo of such a butterfly on a flower will be a blatant forgery, which can only cause irritation to a specialist. (end of quote)
As recently as July 19, 2008, I photographed a female Limenitis populi L. on an umbrella flower, where she was enthusiastically sucking nectar. If you are interested, I can provide a photo (and more than one).
So the article is also not unambiguous.

22.07.2008 19:31, Vlad Proklov


As recently as July 19, 2008, I photographed a female Limenitis populi L. on an umbrella flower, where she was enthusiastically sucking nectar.

There is such a thing, I also met a female poplar ribbon on the inflorescence of a hogweed.
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23.07.2008 1:03, okoem

  
About guessing. If one or another butterfly cannot be distinguished from a similar one in the photo (but only by dissecting it) and both of them meet at the place of shooting, then what difference does it make to me which butterfly it is? Say either-or.

As recently as July 19, 2008, I photographed a female Limenitis populi L. on an umbrella flower,

For some there is no difference, for some there is. Or there may be a situation where you come across something atypical for the shooting location, but out of habit it will be determined as a banal view. For me, when I started, there was also no difference, but now there is. So now some old images have to be discarded, because it is no longer possible to accurately identify them.

At the expense of the behavior of butterflies, M. Klepikov described the general typical behavior. But individual instances can sometimes indeed behave in a non-standard way.

23.07.2008 7:08, YLena

Here's a guess, eh! This is if nothing new has been caught there since 1999. But Crimea is simply phenomenally rich in them, of course.
By the way, I still don't see the picture...


I can give you a separate link if it doesn't open in any other way... http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2549/bluemoth01bpm4.jpg

This post was edited by YLena - 07/23/2008 07: 23

23.07.2008 16:35, NakaRB

The animals were shot in Moscow (01, 02) and the vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk (MO) - everything else
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02 - 19.07.2008
03 - 13.07.2008
04 - 13.07.2008
05 - 12.07.2008
06 - 29.06.2008
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09 - 13.06.2008
10 - 08.06.2008
11 - 09.05.2008
12 - 15.07.2007
13 - 16.06.2007
14 - 16.06.2007
15 - 17.06.2007
16 - 10.06.2007
Especially interested in small things wink.gif. Thank you in advance

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23.07.2008 16:55, Vlad Proklov

The animals were shot in Moscow (01, 02) and the vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk (MO) - everything else
is especially interesting for small things wink.gif. Thank you in advance

01 - Udea lutealis
02 - Autographa gamma
03 - Polyommatus amanda
04 - ?
05 - Lathronympha strigana
06 - Phlyctaenia coronata
07, ?12 - Syricoris lacunana
08 - Pleuroptya ruralis
09 - Carterocephalus palaemon
10 - Siona lineata
11 - Incurvaria ?oehlmanniella
13 - Grapholita compositella
14-Micropterix aruncella, female.
15 - Damophila deauratella
16 - ?Scopula floslactata

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 01.12.2009 20: 25
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23.07.2008 17:15, Zhuk

4 probably Euplexia lucipara. The photo is a fig tree...

23.07.2008 18:28, Mylabris

To NakaRB: great photos, what did you shoot?

24.07.2008 7:44, Konung

 
14. Eilema sororcula?

I think it's Eilema lutarella...
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24.07.2008 8:21, NakaRB

To NakaRB: great photos, what did you shoot?


thanks smile.gif). снимаю Canon powershot s3 is + Raynox DCR-250. without flash and tripod wink.gif
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24.07.2008 13:50, YLena

kotbegemot, and now, after the image has been restored, can you clarify the appearance of my pestryanka? shuffle.gif Is this still Adscita obscura?

Thank you in advance, and I apologize if I seem too persistent shuffle.gif

24.07.2008 13:55, Vlad Proklov

  kotbegemot, and now, after the image has been restored, can you clarify the appearance of my pestryanka? shuffle.gif Is this still Adscita obscura?

Thank you in advance, and I apologize if I seem too persistent shuffle.gif

Yes, this is such a group - that there it is necessary to cook their genitals. And" in person " only then know. They all look like this smile.gif
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24.07.2008 14:00, Vlad Proklov

  kotbegemot, and now, after the image has been restored, can you clarify the appearance of my pestryanka? shuffle.gif Is this still Adscita obscura?

Thank you in advance, and I apologize if I seem too persistent shuffle.gif

I can only give you this hint: in A. obscura, the caterpillars feed on sunflower (Helianthemum spp.), and in J. anatolica-mordovian (Echinops spp.). In J. syriaca, the caterpillars are unknown-but in close species they develop on all sorts of thistles-bodyaks-cornflowers.
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24.07.2008 17:00, YLena

I can only give you this hint: in A. obscura, the caterpillars feed on sunflower (Helianthemum spp.), and in J. anatolica-mordovian (Echinops spp.). In J. syriaca, the caterpillars are unknown-but in close species they develop on all sorts of thistles-bodyaks-cornflowers.


Then the method of exclusion turns out that this is J. syriaca. smile.gifBecause on that site CENTAUREA PROCURRENS (Cornflower fluffy) is growing with might and main, and there were no other plants mentioned by you there nearby

This post was edited by YLena - 07/24/2008 17: 21

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