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23.09.2009 10:22, алекс 2611

yes, it's not a big deal to get ahead of the photo, but people are asking for it...


Some people do it, but I can't get into it, I need to dig around, look at it, think about it. braking....

23.09.2009 12:27, Dr. Niko

yes, it's not a big deal to get ahead of the photo, but people are asking for it...

Yes, they ask for something, but when a person asks just for the sake of wanting to know the animal, this is one thing, here the error is not so critical, but if a person then shoves all this into a hastily concocted database, like tov. SEadm, then how does the Russian Internet suffer from such clogging with incorrectly defined husks! frown.gif
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23.09.2009 18:54, Юстус

By the way, guys, the other day I took out a straightener with a couple of sirfids, and one of the yellow stripes on the abdomen turned weep.giforange.?? Otherwise, if they always behave like this, it's zer nicht gut!

This (color change) probably depends on the degree of oxidizability of the contents of the intestine (respectively, the fullness of the latter), which, in turn, is burdened with the oxidative capabilities of the bacterial "fauna" (flora)... umnik.gif

23.09.2009 19:25, Юстус

Then who is it? It's a pity that my ideas about sirfids are mostly limited to Flax.by region. We seem to have nothing like balteatus, do
you have anything else in the wild Siberian expanses? Well, tell me, don't bother me

I tell you, explaining so that there is no ambiguity. wink.gif
The description of the holo (para-, syn -, etc.) type of E. balteatus remained inaccessible to me. But about E. balteatus ("textbook") I didn't ask (until now). Having met a lot of " color morph "(aberration) or "tipo" of that (as it turns out now) (photo of post 787), I asked. I don't have time to follow the twists and turns of the classification "rally" (here the species were combined into one, there they gave the status of a species to individuals who had previously been deprived of it). weep.gif
Without any "jokes" (which, of course, in the literal sense of the word "pin" does not apply to E. balteatusjump.gif) I was curious (I sprinkle ashes on my head)…
Baltheatus, so baltheatus, you know better there, in the Baltic... Thanks!

This post was edited by Justus - 09/24/2009 10: 20

23.09.2009 19:44, Юстус

By the way, guys, the other day I took out a straightener with a couple of sirfids, and one of the yellow stripes on the abdomen turned weep.giforange.?? Otherwise, if they always behave like this, it's zer nicht gut!

I have a question (och. similar to offtop and not "by the way", like Dr. Niko) "in pursuit".
Why do their bellies dry differently, i.e. why do some of them "cringe" and others do not? (I don't admit any religious motives yet) This doesn't always seem to fit in with "satiety". And the question of "shrinkage" (deformity) of the eyes in some species, and the absence of such – in others, is burdened.

23.09.2009 19:49, grottan

I saw one capitalist collection. so there everything is ideally as alive, the trick is: the author, all palasatyh flies, while fresh, soaked in acetone.
but the deformation takes place..

23.09.2009 19:51, grottan

There was a question: I have a sirfida, in the course of Cheilosia, female, 3rd chl. antennae orange and just a giant somewhere 1/3 of the size of the eye (the shape is closer to a rectangle), eyes are naked, face is naked, arista is naked, legs are completely black, body with a bronze tint, in small light hairs, 4 mm. Photos, what could such made, do not judge ... my version of Cheilosia sahlbergi (Becker, 1894), but maybe someone has other thoughts ?

23.09.2009 19:54, Юстус

Where are the photos? confused.gif ("judge" jump.gifoch. want)

This post was edited by Justus - 23.09.2009 19: 56

23.09.2009 19:56, grottan

opaaaa, and how to fill in photos here?

23.09.2009 19:59, Юстус

At the top, in the options - reply, then-review, after opening the desired file - "attach this file"; window text then. ОК?
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23.09.2009 20:10, Юстус

I saw one capitalist collection. so there everything is ideally as alive, the trick is: the author, all palasatyh flies, while fresh, soaked in acetone.
but the deformation takes place..

And "palasatye" - is it hto? In the sense that Spilomyia diophthalma (far more striped-straight tigers), for example, do not lose anything from their beauty.

23.09.2009 20:17, grottan

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23.09.2009 20:17, grottan

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23.09.2009 20:21, grottan

palasatye", these are those with the yellow color present

23.09.2009 23:13, алекс 2611

There was a question: I have a sirfida, in the course of Cheilosia, female, 3rd chl. antennae orange and just a giant somewhere 1/3 of the size of the eye (the shape is closer to a rectangle), eyes are naked, face is naked, arista is naked, legs are completely black, body with a bronze tint, in small light hairs, 4 mm. Photos, what could such made, do not judge ... my version of Cheilosia sahlbergi (Becker, 1894), but maybe someone has other thoughts ?


And where was she caught? What time of year is it? For Cheilosia, it would also be interesting to know what colors it is caught on.

23.09.2009 23:17, алекс 2611

filled it in lol.gif  lol.gif


Friends, can I, as the most inexperienced, be the first to blurt out my version? And then you will definitely correct me. smile.gif
Yes, is it really only 4 mm in size?
And yet, I still don't know if she has black bristles on the back edge of the shield or not.

This post was edited by alex 2611-23.09.2009 23: 20

24.09.2009 10:16, Юстус

palasatye", these are those that have a yellow color

These have a "yellow" color present, and "palasatost"? confused.gif
Och. I want to ask: who are they? mol.gif But I anticipate Alex 2611's outrage: "are you kidding me again?" (or alternatively: "it's better to touch once than to see 10 times")... and so I want to, so I want to ask...


To: Sungaya # 818
Laphria gibbosa and Choerades gilva.
(in the words of Alex 2611: "Are you kidding me? smile.gif )
((this "strange" edit is caused by the fact that any attempt to use the "reply" option is blocked by indicating an error: Duplicate entry '946732' for key 'PRIMARY', fix the cat. I don't know how weep.gifyet ))

This post was edited by Justus - 26.09.2009 05: 37

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24.09.2009 10:57, grottan

Friends, can I, as the most inexperienced, be the first to blurt out my version? And then you will definitely correct me. smile.gif
Yes, is it really only 4 mm in size?
And yet, I still don't know if she has black bristles on the back edge of the shield or not.

Eastern Carpathians, 1500 m above sea level, on Potentilla aurea L., there are short light bristles on the scutellum (less than half the length of the scutellum).

I thought everyone knew the famous phrase about the sirfid: "This is not a wasp, this is a striped fly"
And you reacted so seriously… rolleyes.gif

These have a "yellow" color present, and "palasatost"? confused.gif
Och. I want to ask: who are they? mol.gif But I anticipate Alex 2611's outrage: "are you kidding me again?" (or alternatively: "it's better to touch once than to see 10 times")... and so I want to, so I want to ask...

This is either E. abusiva or E. arbustorum . If valasa on arista is short, E. abusiva is long, and E. arbustorum is long. I think it's abusiwa. You can see (to Arist smile.gif).

I think it's abusiwa: in the male, the dusting is clearly visible in the form of stripes on the mid-spine cool.gif

This post was edited by Bolivar - 09/24/2009 11: 50
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24.09.2009 11:30, алекс 2611

Eastern Carpathians, 1500 m above sea level, on Potentilla aurea L., there are short light bristles on the scutellum (less than half the length of the scutellum).



I can't think of anything smarter than sahlbergi frown.gif
let's go to the specialists...

This post was edited by alex 2611-24.09.2009 14: 12

24.09.2009 14:14, алекс 2611

These have a "yellow" color present, and "palasatost"? confused.gif
Och. I want to ask: who are they? mol.gif But I anticipate Alex 2611's outrage: "are you kidding me again?" (or alternatively: "it's better to touch once than to see 10 times")... and so I want to, so I want to ask...


of course you are joking smile.gifabout what I'm stupid for and then yesterday (more precisely today by 3 o'clock in the morning) I finished off my eristalis from Len. region. 11 types of everything and all such ordinary.... frown.gif

25.09.2009 20:12, Sungaya

Tell me, what kind of ktyri?

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26.09.2009 17:21, grottan

first Laphria gibbosa L. 1758
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26.09.2009 17:29, grottan

second read post # 814 cool.gif
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26.09.2009 18:26, IchMan

Here is another picture of the mosquito (another copy) this one is larger - the body length is about 15mm, maybe it will help in determining. September 5, same shooting location.

Last time I lied, that mosquito was also Keroplat u s, but not tipuloides, but this time it seems to be exactly it.
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26.09.2009 18:31, алекс 2611

It seemed to me that the second ktyr is Laphria gilva, it is now placed in a different genus, I can't remember.

This post was edited by alex 2611-26.09.2009 18: 32
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27.09.2009 5:26, vi-123

Last time I lied, that mosquito was also Keroplat u s, but not tipuloides, but this time it looks like it is.

Thanks! So there are two types. I thought it was a female of the same species that laid eggs and hadn't had time to do so yet. Andrey, do you have any hope of identifying the mosquito in the first photo? I know it's difficult from the photo.

27.09.2009 12:35, NakaRB

I'm starting to analyze the materials of 2009. smile.gif

1. Vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region, 25.04.2009
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2. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 26.04.2009
Bombylius major?
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3. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 26.04.2009
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4. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 26.04.2009
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5. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 26.04.2009
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6. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 29.04.2009
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7. Moscow, Bitsevsky Forest Park, 29.04.2009
Tephritidae, must be understood smile.gif
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8. Vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region, 01.05.2009
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9. Vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region, 01.05.2009
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10. Vicinity of Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow region, 01.05.2009
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29.09.2009 11:43, Юстус

Help. PLZ. mol.gifNovosibirsk. The honey stripe is narrow and black. Arista is not naked, but rarely and not short pubescent in half (as you can try to see in the last photo)

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29.09.2009 11:43, grottan

For those who like to determine from the photo, what is Sphaerophoria? Karpaty, on the umbrella roads.

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29.09.2009 12:02, grottan

Help. PLZ. mol.gifNovosibirsk. The honey stripe is narrow and black. Arista is not naked, but rarely and not short pubescent in half (as you can try to see in the last photo)

E. rupium Fabricius, 1805
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29.09.2009 12:12, Юстус

To grottan
I'd like to know where he's from... If, for example, from the East of Russia (from Transbaikalia and beyond), then it would be possible to call it (if you can't see it) Sherkhan... With the last tergite in the photo-it is not clear...

This post was edited by Justus - 29.09.2009 12: 14

29.09.2009 12:17, grottan

For those who like to determine from the photo, what is Sphaerophoria? Karpaty, on the umbrella roads.

29.09.2009 12:22, grottan

Sherkhan? pisya is cut off...yes.gifI just wonder if someone defines them without genitals, according to the drawing of the abdomen?

This post was edited by grottan - 09/29/2009 12: 24

29.09.2009 13:15, Юстус

Sherkhan? pisya is cut off...yes.gifI just wonder if someone defines them without genitals, according to the drawing of the abdomen?

There are types, so to speak, "textbook", on the cat. it is enough to look with one eye, but in the vast majority of cases, binocular vision is required, in the narrow and broad sense of the word. I break into the open gate, everyone keeps saying this here (and Alexey 2611 even has such a saying at all).
Regarding Sph. shirchan Violovitsh, 1957, its abdomen (very similar to your specimen) and surstil look (Violovich, p. 178) as follows:

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29.09.2009 13:24, grottan

mda, earlier Sph. shirchan Violovitsh, 1957, as well as Sph. virgata Goeldlin, 1974 did not expect to catch jump.gif

29.09.2009 13:30, grottan

but who is it? I can't identify weep.gifany pictures of the abdomen...

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29.09.2009 22:10, алекс 2611

I break into the open gate, everyone keeps saying this here (and Alexey 2611 even has such a saying at all).


I just don't really know how to tell from photos, and some of them are pretty good at it. And I always doubt it.

30.09.2009 7:12, Юстус

I just don't really know how to tell from photos, and some of them are pretty good at it. And I always doubt it.

Yes, dear Alex 2611, you are a real philosopher (in a non-reprehensible sense) smile.gif , because the fundamental basis of philosophy is doubt umnik.gif(and I kept thinking, who is it in the polls "philosopher is called?).
Of course, you need to hold it in your hands (in most cases, the defining signs are not visible in the photo), but the intuition of those who successfully determine from the photo amazes me, I envy...

01.10.2009 11:09, алекс 2611

Dear Justus and grottan, If you can, please send us more photos of the sirfid. I enjoy it immensely. True, the pleasure is combined with a slight inferiority complex-I have painfully poor fees for sirfids. But interesting.
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03.10.2009 12:36, Юстус

pisya is cut off...I used it to determine

And...?
"Defined", and ...?
What is the result of the definition? confused.gif
It seems to me that the intrigue will not last long, it has a shelf life (see on the package) of 4-5 days. (yes, and even then, in the refrigerator)smile.gif.
"Defined", and ...? mol.gif

This post was edited by Justus - 03.10.2009 13: 21

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