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Identification of larvae and pupae

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12.10.2008 17:49, gumenuk

Well, will anyone look at my caterpillars ? Are they dippers?

12.10.2008 21:31, okoem

Well, will anyone look at my caterpillars ? Are they dippers?

Dippers. Before the genus / species , I don't know.
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14.10.2008 23:19, dimont

Nashol in the forest near the road on ordinary grass in Ukraine. I think it's some kind of bear, but I can't tell which one. Soon wakes up a month as I serve her raspberry leaves, eats sabaka, excuse the caterpillar. Help me determine what kind of butterfly it will turn out, if possible.
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14.10.2008 23:29, okoem

Nashol in the forest near the road on ordinary grass in Ukraine. I think it's some kind of bear, but I can't tell which one. Soon wakes up a month as I serve her raspberry leaves, eats sabaka, excuse the caterpillar. Help me determine what kind of butterfly it will turn out, if possible.

Macrothylacia rubi

14.10.2008 23:48, dimont

Here is a photo of Macrothylacia rubi. My caterpillar is different from hers. This is something else
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15.10.2008 0:03, okoem

Here is a photo of Macrothylacia rubi. My caterpillar is different from hers. This is something else

Many caterpillars are very variable in color. Macrothylacia rubi is no exception.
http://www.leps.it/SpeciesPages/MacrotRubi.htm
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15.10.2008 0:05, dimont

After all, this is Macrothylacia rubi (raspberry cocoonworm), just in different places they are slightly different from each other, thank you.

15.10.2008 1:11, Vlad Proklov

Here is a photo of Macrothylacia rubi. My caterpillar is different from hers. This is something else

This one is just younger. Polishes - will be the same as in your photos.
It is interesting - but in both England and Russia, I found them most often on sorrel. I used to feed them (and I'm still feeding them-two of them now) blackberries, and I offered raspberries to the Russians - they turn up their noses...
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15.10.2008 13:18, Vabrus

Help with the tracks from the Circumpolar Urals smile.gif
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A bear, but which one? confused.gif

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Orgyia gonostigma?

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15.10.2008 13:28, Grigory Grigoryev

And not a bear, but a cocoonworm. It overwinters as a caterpillar.

15.10.2008 15:24, gumenuk

It is possible like this:
1 and 4-Manestra pisi
2- (the second one that you think is the bear) - Acronicta auricoma
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15.10.2008 15:29, Vabrus

Uhsmile.gif, so who's the other one? And you can also confirm or deny the brushtail?

15.10.2008 18:42, gumenuk

Uhsmile.gif, so who's the other one? And you can also confirm or deny the brushtail?

In Google, type Acronicta auricoma and look at the images. Maybe this will convince you smile.gif
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16.10.2008 18:57, NakaRB

All shot in Moscow and the region
01-malina
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02 (H. furcula?) - birch
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03-birch
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04-aspen
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05-birch
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06
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07-sorrel
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08-cherry
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10-nettle
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16.10.2008 20:53, dimont

  
It is interesting - but in both England and Russia, I found them most often on sorrel. I used to feed them (and I'm still feeding them-two of them now) blackberries, and I offered raspberries to the Russians - they turn up their noses...

If you already had to deal with such problems, tell me what problems are still waiting for me in the front, what to do so that it turns into a pupa, what conditions it needs, etc. At my caterpillar chas apetit became much worse, than almost a month ago. Under what conditions does it pupate, when, or perhaps it hibernates as a caterpillar?

16.10.2008 22:09, guest: Rattus

dimont
Raspberry in the middle zone eats goat willow well...winter can be put in moss....the temperature is ideally around -5..... in the spring it will pupate without food..... but it likes to bask in the sun.....
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16.10.2008 22:34, Vlad Proklov

If you already had to deal with such problems, tell me what problems are still waiting for me in the front, what to do so that it turns into a pupa, what conditions it needs, etc. At my caterpillar chas apetit became much worse, than almost a month ago. Under what conditions does it pupate, when, or perhaps it hibernates as a caterpillar?



dimont
Raspberry in the middle zone eats goat willow well...winter can be put in moss....the temperature is ideally around -5..... in the spring it will pupate without food..... but it likes to bask in the sun.....

Yes, yes, without the sun they will not pupate - I myself ruined five pieces last year frown.gif
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18.10.2008 8:37, gumenuk

NakaRB

Since the experts are silent, I will try to help:
1-pyadenitsa (I don't take any further risks)
2-crested (some kind of harpy)
3-crested moth (may be Notodonta dromedarius)
4-crested moth (some kind of brushtail)
5-moth (looks like birch-Biston betularia)
6-moth
7-moth
8-moth
9-bear (possibly Spilarctia lubricipeda or Spilosoma menthastri)
10-it is possible that this is a moth (as an option - Operophtera brumata)
Let them correct it now shuffle.gif

This post was edited by gumenuk - 18.10.2008 08: 38
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18.10.2008 16:30, Sungaya

All shot in Moscow and the region




03-Notodonta dromedarius
04-Clostera curtula
05 - Biston betularia
06 - Cucullia asteris
07-some kind of Orthosia...
10 - Hypena proboscidalis

This post was edited by Sungaya - 10/18/2008 16: 58
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18.10.2008 21:24, Grigory Grigoryev

"Yes, yes, they won't pupate without the sun - I ruined five of them myself last year."

I want to note that I have always brought rubi cocoonworm caterpillars to the heat in January-February, of course, the sun was not offered to them. There were no problems with pupation.
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18.10.2008 21:55, NakaRB

Well, since the experts have come , let's continue smile.gif
Again, Moscow and the region
11-mountain ash trunk
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12 - (Laothoe roruli?) - aspen
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13-raspberries
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14-hazel tree
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15
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16
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17-aspen
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18- (Odontosia ziczac?) - willow
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22-plum it seems
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23-hazel tree
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19.10.2008 2:00, Sungaya

I assume so:

12-Laothoe roruli... although similar
to ocellatus 13-Mesoleuca albicillata
14-Asthena albulata... or maybe Hydrelia sylvata
15-Ematurga atomaria
16-Melanchra persicariae
17-Acronicta auricoma
18-Odontosia ziczac
19 - Cucullia asteris
20-Phragmatobia fuliginosa
22-some thread of Eupithecia, such as icterata ... subfuscata... succenturiata
23 - Electrophaes corylata

This post was edited by Sungaya - 19.10.2008 02: 10
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19.10.2008 8:27, gumenuk

Help me determine (I will also be satisfied with the family, if it is difficult to determine the genus and, especially, the species). Taken in the South-east of the Moscow region, and 3 004075 - in the Vladimir region.

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19.10.2008 9:44, NakaRB

I assume so:
12-Laothoe roruli... although similar to ocellatus


and the spots? I was assigned this one as an ocular one...
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19.10.2008 12:50, Sungaya

Help me determine (I will also be satisfied with the family, if it is difficult to determine the genus and, especially, the species). Taken in the South-east of the Moscow region, and 3 004075 - in the Vladimir region.

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assumptions 5___006798.jpg — (185.42 k) Acronicta rumicis
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19.10.2008 13:06, Sungaya

and the spots? I was assigned this one as an ocular one...


the ocular "horn" is pink, purple, and blue... you can find out more about this on the Sphingidae of the Eastern Palaearctic website (I can't leave the link, it's blocked)


number 11-the trunk of mountain ash is similar to Atolmis rubricollis
and 14-hazel is more likely Hydrelia sylvata... despite the hazel tree.
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20.10.2008 17:13, okoem

6___002787.jpg-beetle larva
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21.10.2008 7:07, gumenuk

Help me figure it out. At first I thought that the pictures were Biston betularia, but I began to look closely and doubts tormented me. All from the Moscow region, autumn

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22.10.2008 18:43, Манор

Meanwhile, in Moscow... Who is it?

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23.10.2008 20:08, guest: Rattus

For Manor
And in Moscow is it when and where?..... in May?....on lzhepestryanka Fegeyu is similar...... that is as Sviridov nigriformis edits now....

For Naka
What does the dots have to do with it?..... it depends on the illumination.....the main thing is habitus.....The big-eyed one is a slender man, while the poplar one is stocky and thick-set....a kind of Carlson in full bloom..... well, the names differ very much.....

23.10.2008 22:08, NakaRB


What does the dots have to do with it?..... it depends on the light.....


What do you mean? from lighting when photographing, or from lighting during the life of the caterpillar? wink.gif

23.10.2008 22:37, okoem

on lzhepestryanka Fegeyu is similar...... that is as Sviridov nigriformis edits now....

Come on, what a false chicken pox! This is ursa major, Arctia sp. something like that.
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24.10.2008 10:05, guest: Манор

For Manor
And in Moscow is it when and where?..... in May?....

Two or three days ago, when the sun was shining ))

26.10.2008 9:31, gumenuk

Does anyone have a good word to say from my pictures of moth caterpillars ? And then doubts tormented me

26.10.2008 11:22, okoem

1,2,3 - definitely not Biston sp.
Other photos - Biston sp. probably Biston betularia.
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26.10.2008 11:49, gumenuk

1,2,3 - definitely not Biston sp.
Other photos - Biston sp. probably Biston betularia.

Thank you, I also identified it. That's why I put it in this order.

26.10.2008 13:04, gumenuk

It is a pity, of course, that the first three of the previously displayed ones are not defined. frown.gif
Maybe you'll get lucky with these ?

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26.10.2008 13:17, okoem

3 - slightly higher was already. I quote:
"Sungaya: some Eupithecia thread, like icterata... subfuscata... succenturiata"
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26.10.2008 15:10, gumenuk

3 - slightly higher was already. I quote:
"Sungaya: some Eupithecia thread, like icterata... subfuscata... succenturiata"

Once there, I delete it. I was hoping for a more complete definition.

26.10.2008 15:30, okoem

Once there, I delete it. I was hoping for a more complete definition.

Why delete it? There was a caterpillar, not your picture. I.e. that the caterpillar is apparently the same type as in the NakaRB picture a few messages above.

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