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08.11.2013 16:14, Bianor

what kind of Windows are you still sitting on??))

The seventh Windows is released in two versions-32 and 64 bits. Many people prefer Intel processors and use the 32-bit OS. The only question is what are the requirements for this very Labels, maybe it's even under DOS.

08.11.2013 16:41, vasiliy-feoktistov

The seventh Windows is released in two versions-32 and 64 bits. Many people prefer Intel processors and use the 32-bit OS.

The main thing is that the percentage supports 64 bits and it does not matter if it is AMD or Intel. I have for example a relatively ancient Intel Pentium 4 640, 3200 MHz (16 x 200) on the Prescott 2M core, it easily works with Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) without even straining (actually, I'm writing from under this Windows now). What can be more ancient now I can't imagine.
P. S. I want to add that almost all the programs that I used to work under 32-bit Win XP now work well under this axis. It even creates two folders " Program files "and" Program files x86 " (specifically for installing 32-bit programs). This is just a prog Labels is very ancient and abandoned by developers.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 08.11.2013 16: 50

08.11.2013 23:49, Victor Titov

I have been using the Labels program for a long time, and I am completely satisfied with it.
I have an Intel® Pentium® D CPU 3.40GHz, Windows XP. Everything works fine. Here is the link from where I downloaded the program: http://entomolog.narod.ru/downloads.html

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 08.11.2013 23: 52

09.11.2013 4:04, vasiliy-feoktistov

I have been using the Labels program for a long time, and I am completely satisfied with it.
I have an Intel® Pentium® D CPU 3.40GHz, Windows XP. Everything works fine. Here is the link from where I downloaded the program: http://entomolog.narod.ru/downloads.html

Well, XP is 32-bit (by the way: this processor also supports 64-bit AMD64/EM64T instructions: you can put a 64-bit axis). Here we are talking about incompatibility with a 64-bit system, on which when you try to install this is what comes out (now I downloaded it from the link and tried it myself for the sake of interest):

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 09.11.2013 04: 11

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09.11.2013 8:38, Bianor

I have for example a relatively ancient Intel Pentium 4 640, 3200 MHz (16 x 200) on the Prescott 2M core, it easily works with Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) without even straining (actually, I'm writing from under this Windows now). I can't imagine what could be more ancient now.

Do you have more than four gigabytes of RAM? If not, then why the 64-bit axis? I have an i5 processor and I don't see the point in switching to a higher bit rate for a couple of percent of performance.

On 32-bit systems, the program works. Although I prefer Corel for labels.

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09.11.2013 9:37, Karat

thank you all for the answers)
I have 2 Windows at home-XP and 7 (32 bit), but there is no printer
The printer is at work, but to convey the idea that I don't need a seven with 64 bits for 2 GB nafig (they say we won't take another Windows on a different computer now). So I suffer now. A colleague has a computer with a printer on XP, where I print labels.

09.11.2013 10:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

Do you have more than four gigabytes of RAM? If not, then why the 64-bit axis? I have an i5 processor and I don't see the point in switching to a higher bit rate for a couple of percent of performance.

On 32-bit systems, the program works. Although I prefer Corel for labels.

The 64-bit seven gets up well and works equally well on 2 gigabytes of RAM exactly. I can assure you so-as verified personally. Well, of course games (some of the latest ones) will not pull, but in the end you can always add RAM (on normal motherboards at least 4 slots). I'll repeat myself: for labels, I use Word and don't worry, and still on 32 or 64 bits (there is an office for both).: this is Microsoft) smile.gif

09.11.2013 14:54, Victor Titov

After all, what's there to argue about? To whom it is convenient (who is used to it), so let him do it. I'm comfortable with Labels, most people are comfortable with Word, and others are comfortable with Corel... I know that there are some who still write labels by hand, pencil or ink (by the way, I wrote labels with a feather in black ink until the end of the 90swall.gif). After all, the point is not on what and how to make labels, but in their informative content and compliance with standard requirements.
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24.04.2014 21:56, AlexEvs

Dear ladies and gentlemen, can you tell me what you print labels for alcohol collections on? I'm not talking about an inkjet printer at all. And with the laser trouble-the letters fly off the paper entirely, and the paper eventually gets wet. Tracing paper doesn't hold ink. Please share your experience!

24.04.2014 23:39, Triplaxxx

For printing labels for alcohol charges, there are special ink for inkjet printers and special paper-I've seen such things abroad. I'm afraid neither is available here. After a long ordeal, labels are written on tracing paper with ink-the benefit of even a pen is not necessary to do this, there are appropriate capillary pens.

This post was edited by Triplaxxx - 24.04.2014 23: 40
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25.04.2014 1:31, Proctos

from lasernik everything is ok, the letters have been kept in alcohol for 10 years, the paper is ordinary, not dense
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25.04.2014 14:35, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Some live, and some die... Indeed, most laser-printed labels have been around for many years. But I had to save a very valuable material from Cambodia, where the letters just slipped off all (!) labels.

The most reliable method is a pencil on rough (not glossy) paper, which has been tested for centuries. You can write in ink. But! Is "good old mascara" available now? I haven't seen her in a long time. And how will the new mascara behave?

I assume that the labels printed on our laboratory printer have been "alive" for many years. Especially valuable ones I duplicate with a pencil.
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26.04.2014 1:12, AlexEvs

Thank you for your answers! About pencil and tracing paper is clear. With ink now, yes, the problem. I write labels on tracing paper with edding and rotring permanent ink pens. This ink in alcohol holds up perfectly! But I would like to print blanks at least for "definitive" labels. So I will continue to experiment with printers, ink and paper.

26.04.2014 1:14, AlexEvs

For printing labels for alcohol charges, there are special ink for inkjet printers and special paper-I've seen such things abroad...


And where exactly on abroad did you see this? Do you remember the stamps?

26.04.2014 23:11, Triplaxxx

I saw it in Norway, but the printer, as far as I remember, is American. Probably HP. The paper is definitely American-Bison.

This post was edited by Triplaxxx - 04/26/2014 23: 13

04.05.2015 20:31, Liparus

How to write correctly in English (for labels). 2 kilometers east of the Eastern outskirts of Novomoskovsk? (Dnipropetrovsk region)

This post was edited by Liparus - 05.05.2015 19: 21

04.05.2015 21:06, okoem

How to write correctly in English (for labels). 2 kilometers east of the Eastern outskirts of Novomoskovsk? (Donetsk region)

IMHO, it is correct not to measure distances "from the outskirts". Today, the outskirts are here, and in a few years it may shift by a couple of kilometers.
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04.05.2015 21:19, vasiliy-feoktistov

How to write correctly in English (for labels). 2 kilometers east of the Eastern outskirts of Novomoskovsk? (Donetsk region)

Relatively simple if the browser is Opera smile.gif
You need to install the Translator extension: https://addons.opera.com/ru/extensions/deta...tor/?display=ru
Uses a choice of 7 online translators.
Here's what your text looks like when translated using Promt:
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28.09.2015 19:23, xkunyax1994

I was talking about a good inkjet printer. There are special printers for labels and they are inkjet. Lasernik is not a problem, but over time, labels can "crumble".
Thank you for your clarification!
This is often not possible for older fees.

I completely agree with you, you need to use the equipment for its intended purpose, if you need to print labels, then you need to use a label printer

28.09.2015 22:50, Bad Den

I completely agree with you, you need to use the equipment for its intended purpose, if you need to print labels, then you need to use a label printer

Point your finger at the model, for example?
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29.09.2015 3:16, xkunyax1994

for example here http://www.servplus.ru/trade/equipment/pri...ELEMENT_ID=3015, maybe not the cheapest option, but I think it's worth it

29.09.2015 11:16, Penzyak

IMHO, it is correct not to measure distances "from the outskirts". Today, the outskirts are here, and in a few years it may shift by a couple of kilometers.


In general, the geographical label is linked not just to the edge or center of the locality, but should start counting from the railway station (or glavpochtampa), bus station, post office or village council (if available, of course).

30.09.2015 15:16, Bad Den

for example here http://www.servplus.ru/trade/equipment/pri...ELEMENT_ID=3015, maybe not the cheapest option, but I think it's worth the money

Um...
This printer is not for the labels we need:

16.10.2015 14:13, alexanderz

Good afternoon!
Dear forumchane, share whether there are any requirements, rules for cataloging the collection, personal experience. I understand that you need to keep records, either in the form of a log or using computer programs, but how to personalize each instance? You can assign a number, but this is not provided on the labels.
Sorry if the question is amateurish.

16.10.2015 18:14, okoem

You can assign a number, but this is not provided on the labels.

Pinning an additional label with the number.
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16.10.2015 18:52, Bianor

Pinning an additional label with the number.

A label with a number traditionally means the number of the drug associated with the copy. You can mislead those who will then analyze the collection.

16.10.2015 19:16, ИНО

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16.10.2015 21:00, okoem

A label with a number traditionally means the number of the drug associated with the copy. You can mislead those who will then analyze the collection.

There is no place for delusion to come from. Drug number = instance number.
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17.10.2015 3:22, lepidopterolog

Good afternoon!
Dear forumchane, share whether there are any requirements, rules for cataloging the collection, personal experience. I understand that you need to keep records, either in the form of a log or using computer programs, but how to personalize each instance? You can assign a number, but this is not provided on the labels.
Sorry if the question is amateurish.

Western museums are now actively digitizing collections, and in parallel, each instance is assigned an identification QR code, to which all data about the instance is linked. But this is still not for private collections smile.gifyet, and so - enter your own numbering system (abbreviated designation of the family and, within this family, end-to-end numbering, for example) and provide each copy with such a separate label. Keep the corresponding entry in the folder. Similar systems are also used in museums.
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27.10.2015 20:23, barko

Help me decipher what I've written by hand.
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27.10.2015 23:49, Proctos

You need to show it to someone from the British Museum.
I sent it to a colleague, maybe it will help in some way.

This post was edited by Proctos - 28.10.2015 00: 05
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28.10.2015 4:11, А.Й.Элез

Help me decipher what I've written by hand.
Buckerell (the name of the village in the current East. Devon)
E.-Nort. X (explanation that the village is located east-north of the mountains. Exeter - the current capital of Devonshire)
2/7/1907
For more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckerell

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 28.10.2015 04: 12
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28.10.2015 11:54, barko

  Buckerell (the name of the village in the current East. Devon)
E.-Nort. X (explanation that the village is located east-north of the mountains. Exeter - the current capital of Devonshire)
2/7/1907
For more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckerell
Thanks!

28.10.2015 15:10, Proctos

The diamond! I started to guess about Bookerell myself, but Mount Exeter is 5 points!
However, here is the answer from the British Museum: "Secondly the interpretation doesn't make sense in English, north is never abbreviated to nort., and Exeter never abbreviated to X. There is no Mount Exeter."
Can still think??
You need the name of the collector, then it will be more clear. And by analogy, the British Museum will find a label, perhaps..

This post was edited by Proctos - 28.10.2015 15: 21
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28.10.2015 15:20, barko

The diamond! I started to guess about Bookerell myself, but Mount Exeter is 5 points!
However, here is the answer from the British Museum: "Secondly the interpretation doesn't make sense in English, north is never abbreviated to nort., and Exeter never abbreviated to X. There is no Mount Exeter."
Can still think??
Not a mountain, but a city located on the river southwest of the gathering point.
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28.10.2015 17:37, А.Й.Элез

The diamond! I started to guess about Bookerell myself, but Mount Exeter is 5 points!
However, here is the answer from the British Museum: "Secondly the interpretation doesn't make sense in English, north is never abbreviated to nort., and Exeter never abbreviated to X. There is no Mount Exeter."
Can still think??
You need the name of the collector, then it will be more clear. And by analogy, the British Museum will find a label, perhaps..
If anyone wants to think more, I will explain some details. The main thing is that the label obviously contains quite personal abbreviations. So what are the rules for abbreviations to talk about with such scribbles?.. Here it is more important to put yourself in the place of that collector.
The label has such a smudged "t" that I'm willing to agree that it's not "Nort.", but "North", just very tight - perhaps because a small label or strip of labels was difficult to grab on the table, so that it did not fidget after the pen (!), which is why it was so hard to get a good idea. and it made sure that two letters stick together at the end of the word. Or maybe, according to the layout of the labels on the piece of paper, the cross at the end of the line threatened not to fit (that's why it was pressed strongly to the end of the word, but even so the scissors just grazed the text). And what was written with a pen, and not with a reisfeder, is clear from the dependence of the line thickness on the pressure force (especially clearly - in the number "1"). I just didn't dwell on this purely technical glitch at the end of the word, because the main thing is clear - what is north. And museum workers (if they were asked to speak to them, and not to English teachers) should understand that abbreviations that are ridiculous from the point of view of language norms can be explained technically: for example, the size of a label cut out in advance, where every millimeter counts, and you are either too lazy to cut larger ones, or you don't have time.
The collector, if the name is so important, is Jack Stapleton of The Hound of the Baskervilles, who chased heteropterus morpheus in Devonshire around the same time (though not in the same part)...
It was almost certainly written by an Englishman. The lowercase letter " r "is written like our handwritten" h "(and not like our printed" g", as the Germans often write, say). The upper rounding of this letter is a stable feature of individual handwriting. At the same time, the collector city considered it sufficient for itself as a starting point for the future (i.e., it was clearly not from the United States, Australia, or Honduras).
The letter" o "(and zero, respectively) is not closed by a friend from above, but immediately goes to the right to the next sign, so both " o " and zero are not solid signs, but just a sagging line.
The other signs are more or less clear.
It is clear that the collector is concerned not with the smallness of a piece of paper, but only with how to shorten it according to the rules in order to get an A in school, but only in order to understand his own cuneiform later. Or do we do something wrong all the time? And do we always have time before our own death or before the transfer of a copy to replace the label with a label that is pleasant to any accurate person?
By the way, the easterness is indicated before the north: you can timidly assume (or you can not assume, because sometimes they say in this order) that it is also a personal "code" for yourself: so that later you can keep in mind that there is a big shift to the village from the city of Exeter to the east, and already to the north - much more less; this way you can indirectly store information about whether the angle is less than or greater than 45 degrees. The fact that the hyphen after "East" ("E.") is actually a double may also serve the same purpose, although this is a personal matter for the collector and his individual techniques, and for us it does not add anything to a completely clear point.
The letter "X"in the English alphabet is pronounced as "Ex", so for myself personally it was most difficult to put it. This, of course, is not today's abbreviations for SMS (where not only instead of "you" they put "u", which is pronounced as a letter of the alphabet, respectively, but also instead of the preposition "for" - "for" they put the number "4" - that is, as if "four"), but at least this is an isolated herald of the utilitarianism of the current English language.
On the map, the main city at that time, from which it made sense to navigate, is Exeter, and the village of Buckerell is located just to the "east-north" (I would say - north-east-east). Maps are available online.
A mountain (but at the same time the capital of the county!) it was really not worth scaring the English museum workers. What will they think of us? We'd better think about them. Here, for the sake of what great economy would I shorten "mountain" as " mountain."?..
In short, there is not much room for maneuver on this label to look for more reliable options in an absolutely clear case.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 28.10.2015 19: 35
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28.10.2015 23:18, Proctos

Here is another question from the British Museum: "There is a William Steer Riding who subscribed to the Entomological Society of London at about this time, he lived in Buckerell. Possibly he was the collector?"
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29.10.2015 13:08, Troglodit

Gentlemen, I admire your cryptographic talents, cool. If there were maps, I would probably only understand the name of the village.

About labels. In bugalteria, a typesetting stamp caught my eye, everyone saw such a thing. If there are some with small print, it would allow you to stamp labels clearly and simply with ink.

29.10.2015 14:16, алекс 2611

If anyone wants to think more, I will explain some details.


Hats off

29.10.2015 23:27, А.Й.Элез

Here is another question from the British Museum: "There is a William Steer Riding who subscribed to the Entomological Society of London at about this time, he lived in Buckerell. Possibly he was the collector?"
The collector, perhaps, and he; then the scribble can be fully justified by the fact that already at the time of March 31, 1901 (the date of the census of England, Wales and Scotland), this comrade was 65 years old;

http://www.rootspoint.com/record/1901-UK-C...6-e5b0d2b795f1/

but only if he was still in adequate condition in 1907 and understood that such writing could not be read by another without effort, I would assume that the label was not written by him at all. After all, from another for such labels, you can get a lot of money, and for yourself, a normal person will not add in which direction from the regional center is his own native village, in which he has lived for years. If a villager would have specified, then in which part of this village he was fishing.

Perhaps someone from Devonshire (judging by the possible reduction of the city name only for a regional) colleagues stopped by to visit him with a net, caught something and labelled it for themselves. E. F. C. Studd (from Oxton - in the vicinity of Exeter!) was engaged in Devonshire butterflies, in particular scoops and dippers. His collection ended up in the Royal Albert Memorial Museum. Ryding himself was considered an authoritative expert on the butterflies of India, although he also studied English. He had published works. Lived specifically at Buckerell Lodge (one of the two parts of the village of Buckerell). Their coordinates can be set at least by:
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_tex..._1000804505/217

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 10/30/2015 00: 33

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