Entomological labels

The story of the label reminds me more and more of the novels about Father Brown and similar English works. And your writing style is very conducive to this!
It's amazing what stories you can pull out of a few blurry letters on a tiny piece of cardboard!

I owe my attention to personalities and in general everything, except for my first answer, to your contacts with the British and so on. At least now don't provoke me to read their novels as well. I won't get used to Russia for a long time anyway...

Ari & env (Formosa)
30.9.24

Open first line: Mt. Ari (= Mount Ari) and environments (English) or Mont Ari et environments (French) (Formosa).

That is: Ari [this mountain is found in entomological reports] and the surrounding area (Formosa).

  Ari & env (Formosa)
30.9.24

Open first line: Mt. Ari (= Mount Ari) and environments (English) or Mont Ari et environments (French) (Formosa).

That is: Ari [this mountain is found in entomological reports] and the surrounding area (Formosa).

Do you know where this mountain is?

Do you know where this mountain is?

This mountain, it turns out, is quite famous, including by entomological labels. For example, from Google on " Mt. Ari Formosa":
https://books.google.ru/books?id=e6RetLzAFC...formosa&f=false

By " Mt. Ari Taiwan"
https://books.google.ru/books?id=JdlFEz8Usm...0taiwan&f=false

There is no time to dig further, especially since there are more than 250 mountains with names. You need to look for a topographic kilometer and study it carefully. Unfortunately, in Google Earth, most of the names are in Chinese.

Do you know where this mountain is?

Sure. Only with the replacement of the colonial " Formosa "by the familiar" Taiwan "in general, in my opinion, there is no letter" r " left in the Latinized toponymy. Read the second paragraph from the top, which indicates that Mount Ari is located in the central part of the island (true, there are a lot of text recognition errors, but the mountain was not confused there):
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_tex...3_1000717064/45

And here is a document (also entomological, see p. 14 (66), lower right paragraph), from which it is clear that now we have not Mount Ari in Formosa, but Mount Ali in Taiwan, that these are two names for the same mountain:
http://www.naturkundemuseum-bw.de/sites/de...8-06_assing.pdf

The local name is Alishan. A natural monument and tourist attraction. And you can also buy special tea from those places in the Russian Federation.

At the end of the first post (for 30.06.2014) on the attached page there are bindings for travelers:
http://www.tripadvisor.ru/ShowUserReviews-...ayi_County.html

The attached tourist map shows that the mountain (not to be confused with the railway station nearby) is located in the center of the island to the right of two tall fir trees. Based on this position, you can link to more detailed maps. The mountain is more than twenty - six hundred feet high. In addition to the fact that there is a specific mountain on the map, the map is not valuable at all, in general, the toponymy on it is disgustingly local, and the selection of objects is very arbitrary.

The attached screenshot from Google shows that Google is not very interested in mountains, but it has seen a natural monument (Alishan National Scenic Area).

The attached screenshot from Yandex shows the coordinates of the point (rather randomly selected, since you can't find the mountain specifically on Yandex). The mountain is located from the present eastern edge of the county center of Chiayi (Chiayi City in English transliteration, Kiay - in local) about twenty-five kilometers to the east (near the border with the neighboring county). The name of the county, like the county seat, is Chiayi.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 30.10.2015 18: 59

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So I correctly assumed from the appearance and genitals that the butterfly is oriental.

It's cool here

Can someone help me find out where the type specimen of Eupatorus hardwickii var.niger (Arrow, 1910) has gone?

sorry for the offtop.

This post was edited by Zunimassa - 03.11.2015 07: 53

It's cool here

Can someone help me find out where the type specimen of Eupatorus hardwickii var.niger (Arrow, 1910) has gone?

And this information doesn't fit (the first link in the Yandex search is "Eupatorus hardwickii var. niger")? See.:
http://insectnet.proboards.com/thread/4749...iger-arrow-1910
There is a picture (post from July 16, 2013):

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So this is my picture and topic too.
I asked the British Museum, they only have the type var. typica and children, they said that it can be in the Czech Museum or Oxford.
Oxford said it would check and has been silent for a year.
The Czech Museum said they sold Ninfried's collection to the Paris Museum.
But they are also in no hurry to help.

This post was edited by Zunimassa - 03.11.2015 23: 38

So this may be a picture and a topic too.
I asked the British Museum, they only have the type var. typica and children, they said that it can be in the Czech Museum or Oxford.
Oxford said it would check and has been silent for a year.
The Czech Museum said they sold Ninfried's collection to the Paris Museum.
But they are also in no hurry to help.

Are you preparing an audit?

Perhaps in the future.

I would like to see the photo, because in addition to the standard sample, I haven't heard about any others.

So this is my picture and topic too.
I asked the British Museum, they only have the type var. typica and children, they said that it can be in the Czech Museum or Oxford.
Oxford said it would check and has been silent for a year.
The Czech Museum said they sold Ninfried's collection to the Paris Museum.
But they are also in no hurry to help.

The only advice is to contact the curator of the European Museum of Art with a request to contact the collection you need and its curator. Museums sometimes ignore ordinary petitioners, but they will certainly help their colleagues, especially since they are usually familiar.

Maybe someone knows where this place is?

Here's the answer, probably https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B5%...%81%D1%82%D1%8B
It is not very clear what the collection of insects has to do with only

Good evening ! And what should be indicated on the label if the animal is purchased in a store - in my case, a banana cricket ...?

Good evening ! And what do you need to indicate on the label if the animal is purchased in a store - in my case, a banana cricket ... ?

In your case, if you really want it, specify the price, store address and date.
In general, it is customary to label scientific material.
Sincerely

So maybe this is scientific stuff. By the way, this cricket (or maybe not this one, you need to check) was described from the culture. I think there should be some standard for such cases, and I strongly doubt that it includes the price.

Good evening ! And what do you need to indicate on the label if the animal is purchased in a store - in my case, a banana cricket ... ?

I would specify the following data: country, city, phrase "from culture", date

Good afternoon! I wanted to ask about entering information in the label. If I understand correctly, there is no hard size standard and this is a personal matter for each collector. I'm currently doing 19 by 8 mm for the geographic info and 19 by 6 for the view label. The question is this: the "geographical label" can have a different number of words and characters. You don't want to change the label size. I wonder how the forum participants solve this issue. Do you reduce the font size or shorten the text? I understand that there is a variant of the GPS label, but I deliberately do not do such labels yet for a number of reasons, and, accordingly, the question is not about it. I will be glad to hear good advice!

When writing labels to place the maximum amount of useful information, it is advisable to:
1 Use standard abbreviations, it is better not to use your own inventions;
2 Reduce the font size (within reasonable limits). I have a minimum size of 3 (usually 3,5-4), Arial font, left alignment;
3 Line spacing reduction -- minimum = font size.

To make the small size easy to read, I advise you (at least if you are prototyping in Microsoft Word):

1) use equal-thickness fonts like Arial (as a colleague correctly advises), but not fonts like Courier (too thin lines, there is a high risk of poor printing in small size, subsequent crumbling, etc.). It is better not to use different-thickness fonts like Times, since they have thin lines;

2) set the line spacing manually with an accuracy of tenths of a pixel, determine the minimum for the selected font, and avoid line spacing eating up the tails of lowercase (i.e. small) letters like " p "and" y " will help the third point;

3) IMPORTANT! An obstacle to using a small pin is the physical impossibility of reading this rubbish with the naked eye. And the obstacle to close convergence of lines (i.e. minimizing line spacing) is the disappearance of tails in lowercase "p" and "y" in Cyrillic and "g", "p", "y", " j " in Latin; it's a pity to leave extra space between lines for the sake of these damned tails. Both problems are easy to solve: select "small uppercase" in the font properties. Then all lowercase letters will be smaller in size than uppercase (uppercase), but they will have the shape of uppercase, i.e. they will not have details hanging below the line. And the size of such letters will, of course, be larger with the same size. In this way, the area is used as much as possible for writing and as little as possible for line spacing.

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 10.06.2016 03: 39

Second half of the 19th century. What is written here?

The label is incomplete even by my standards. If you exclude encryption "for yourself", then there can only be one read:

V 3
97

This can be understood (if the second half of the XIX century) only as:

May 3.1897


In English, for example, this order of specifying the date is quite common: May 3, 1897.

The label is incomplete even by my standards. If you exclude encryption "for yourself", then there can only be one read:

V 3
97

This can be understood (if the second half of the XIX century) only as:

May 3.1897


In English, for example, this order of indicating the date is quite common: May 3, 1897.

The taxon was described by Walker in 1865. what year is still specified?

it seems to me that 1857

If we proceed from the carelessness of the writer, then there are no limits to divination at all, we can assume at least 1812. But actually written 97th. If a person saw that in the penultimate digit he closed the upper half of it to the right in a ring, then if he had a five in mind, he would correct the mistake, and not leave it. It was clearly meant to be a nine, and the fact that it was written by krivorukov (who may even have started writing a five by mistake - keeping the month number in mind by inertia, such typos happen all the time-but caught himself in time and closed it exactly to a nine) does not matter. It is important that as a result, a nine was written and that the person did not correct it, that it was he who left it.

By the way, why is the date of the taxon description important? They could have been caught sooner or later. What, the label is from the holotype? Or is this what is being tested? Or just a matter of detection priority?

This post was edited by A. J. Elez - 11.06.2016 22: 04

If we proceed from the carelessness of the writer, then there are no limits to divination at all, we can assume at least 1812. But actually written 97th. If a person saw that in the penultimate digit he closed the upper half of it to the right in a ring, then if he had a five in mind, he would correct the mistake, and not leave it. It was clearly meant to be a nine, and the fact that it was written by krivorukov (who may even have started writing a five by mistake - keeping the month number in mind by inertia, such typos happen all the time-but caught himself in time and closed it exactly to a nine) does not matter. It is important that as a result, a nine was written and that the person did not correct it, that it was he who left it.

By the way, why is the date of the taxon description important? They could have been caught sooner or later. What, the label is from the holotype? Or is this what is being tested? Or just a matter of detection priority?

A type with this label.

Then, unfortunately, it is difficult to combine this instance status with a completely clear nine in the year. Either there is an error at all that this is exactly the type, or there is still an error in the label.

For example, a person wrote a five, and then found it too weak and decided to strengthen it, but soslepu got to the right in the upper part (turning the five into a nine), and then soslepu did not notice his own mistake... The circle can move around the table, and it is very easy to miss the correction of an already written sign. So, if the standard status is respected, the date suggested by T. Proctos is probably preferable - 1857. And the details (about either the nine, or re-prescribing the five) can be specified in the comments. In general, sometimes evil takes that the creators of such labels have already passed away.

Friends, please tell me the locale, if possible.
Presumably, Southwest China

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Then, unfortunately, it is difficult to combine this instance status with a completely clear nine in the year.

Maybe it's not a nine, but a three? The shape is very similar to the "3" in the second case.

Friends, please tell me the locale, if possible.
Presumably, Southwest China

Kashmir Kilu ?

Kashmir Kilu ?

Kashmir and South China - a problem )).
Something like Kulu

Kashmir and South China - a problem )).

I know where Kashmir is and where Southwest China is. I assumed the option according to what I saw on the label. There is such a locale. Does Kashmir not match the taxon that the label matches?

not, exactly does not match

Kashmir and South China - a problem )).
Something like Kulu

And if there is a discrepancy, and it is still written Kashmir Kilu (now Pakistan, then British India), then, M. B., and not South-West China at all? If, however, not "presumably", but already exactly China, then the label is erroneous. It is not yet possible to link the label to China... See, by the way:

http://www.geographic.org/geographic_names...4676&c=pakistan

Evgeny, Andrey Jovovich, thank you very much!
Yes, it is. Just Kashmir here - the most it. I'm the one who messed up. The label is correct and the instance matches the label.

Thank you all again!

I see how many people suffer, making labels in Word or Excel, and my heart bleeds. I decided to describe here how to make labels in Corel Draw. It only seems difficult at first glance, but in fact it is easier and faster than in office programs.

So, we are launching Corel, it is better to use the 16th version or later. It immediately creates a document for us. The borders of this document are immediately shown clearly on the screen. You can move the document by holding down the mouse wheel, and by turning the wheel, you can zoom in and out of the document.



We start making the label. Draw a rectangle and set its dimensions. The dimensions are exactly what we need on paper. I make 2x1 cm labels, but everyone is free to make the ones they like:



Now you need to change the stroke thickness. This is done easily and naturally:



But, we want a double frame. She's prettier. To do this, we need another rectangle. Just press the " + " key on the keyboard to make a copy of the rectangle. At first glance, nothing has changed, but if we change the dimensions of our rectangle, we will see that there are now two of them:



Now we need a window on the left for the date. We just draw a straight line. To make it exactly vertical, hold down shift while drawing. We can see white squares on both sides of the line. If you take the line behind this square, you can move it, and the square can "stick" to other objects, which simplifies accurate positioning.:



For the white square, drag the line inside our rectangles. It doesn't reach the bottom edge. We grab the lower central black square and drag it down until it reaches the desired position.:



The frame is ready, now you need to add text. Select the specified tool, draw a frame, set the minimum size immediately, and write what you need:



Now you need to convert the text to curly text, because it is more convenient to work with it. Right - click and select the appropriate parameter:



We used the big arrow to move around, but now we may need the next one, the small arrow. If you select the text and then select this tool, you can quickly and conveniently change the line spacing and letter spacing, adjusting the text to fit the frame.:



Now we need a date. To do this, select the text, press " + " on the keyboard to get a copy of it, move the copy to the side, and change the text to the date. Then, we need to select the selection tool. Black squares will appear around the text, which you can use to change the size. If you click again, the squares will change to arrows. Now you can use them to rotate and distort text. It is better to turn it not manually, but in the specified menu:



Now the gott label needs to be grouped. Select both the frame and the text and press Ctrl+G. The label is ready. Now it remains to multiply it on a sheet. First, we set the shift interval. The label is 20 mm wide, so we set the interval to 21 mm. Now select our label, habitually press " + "on the keyboard to get a copy, then press" right arrow " on the keyboard. The copy of the label moves exactly 21 mm to the right. Repeat the procedure and get the first row of labels:



The label height is 10 mm, so we set the shift to 11 mm, select the entire line, press " + "on the keyboard, then" down arrow " on the keyboard and get a copy of the line. We multiply the string on the sheet by repeatedly pressing " + " and "down arrow". Everything is ready, the A4 sheet is packed with labels at regular intervals, it remains only to print it out:



Exotic lovers can indulge in fonts. For geographical labels, this is evil, but for bottom labels it may be relevant:



Thank you for your attention )

I see how many people suffer, making labels in Word or Excel, and my heart bleeds.

Everything is good and beautiful, but it is not clear from what people "suffer from Word" ctrl+c, ctrl+v, column width or font size causes suffering?
I can open a Word document on any computer, but here .cdr