Features of light catching

Having doubted the correctness of the choice of cartridge, I checked my thoughts on this matter. The horizontal arrangement and minimal dimensions of the lamp allow you to reliably protect it from careless handling.

I understand that lamps with such sockets require a strictly horizontal orientation during the combustion process?

In general, after reading everything, so far I understand it this way (please correct if I'm wrong):
1. It makes sense to use MGL lamps if the mass is critical (300 grams throttle vs. 3 kg for DRL-250)
2. It is problematic to use MGL lamps with a "two-sided" base - they require a horizontal orientation in space, otherwise the burning is unstable.
3. Sensitivity of the lamp glass to dirt - the midges swirling around the lamp will burn and the lamp will soon come to the polar fox.
4. Thus, if you still use an MGL lamp, then the best option is a 150 W lamp with a base E27

And from what fright should it be covered ? This is the first thing. And secondly-I'll take a replacement one, while the first one is being repaired . And, thirdly, Niva - at the expense of a greedy owner, and the generator-from its own, not so large salary .

Idling mode is considered the most difficult for the internal combustion engine. Especially for older generation engines.
And, in order not to write twice, on the issue of DRLVSDR:
1. the spectrum of even non-split DRL contains more UV;
2. DRL can withstand rain due to a quartz glass bulb. The DRV bursts instantly;
3. the throttle is connected elementary, the connection diagram is usually drawn directly on it.

Idling mode is considered the most difficult for the internal combustion engine. Especially for older generation engines.
And, in order not to write twice, on the issue of DRLVSDR: 1. ; 2. ; 3. .

Last season, the sun shone 3-4 times a week for 5-6 hours in a row. Engine problems = 0. An injection pump. On the remaining three questions - in my opinion, everything is already so chewed up that even I understood everything! And in my opinion, I found all the answers that interest me. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

The only question that is not entirely clear is: is it possible to connect the DRL/DRV and the same savings bank to the car inverter (via a double outlet) at the same time? Or do you need to follow any sequence both when switching on and off?

The only question that is not entirely clear is: is it possible to connect the DRL/DRV and the same savings bank to the car inverter (via a double outlet) at the same time? Or do you need to follow any sequence both when switching on and off?

Have you tried turning on one DRL/DRV? The cigarette lighter usually has a 15A fuse, this is about 180 watts, I think a 125-rated lamp in total with a throttle and an inverter will consume about the same or slightly more.
Although sometimes there are two cigarette lighters and the second one has more power, but I don't think this is the case of Niva.

Have you tried turning on one DRL/DRV? The cigarette lighter usually has a 15A fuse, this is about 180 watts, I think a 125-rated lamp in total with a throttle and an inverter will consume about the same or slightly more.
Although sometimes there are two cigarette lighters and the second one has more power, but I don't think this is the case of Niva.

Ah-ah-ah, that's where the dog poked around!!! So to the inverter also" crocodile " batteries are included in the kit And there, it seems, there are no fuses

Ah-ah-ah, that's where the dog poked around!!! So to the inverter also" crocodile " batteries are included in the kit And there, it seems, there are no fuses

Well don't forget to divide the maximum Chinese watts of the inverter by 2 or better by 3.

And what's the point of filtering visible light if some species don't like it?

Dear Mogwaika, Wood glass lamps are not intended for entomological purposes. The main purpose is to be used in various technological processes, as well as in discos, bars, etc. to create light effects using UV-reflecting materials.

The only question that is not entirely clear is: is it possible to connect the DRL/DRV and the same savings bank to the car inverter (via a double outlet) at the same time? Or do you need to follow any sequence both when switching on and off?

Dear major65. When starting DRLDRV, as well as almost any electric consumers, the start-up current is several times greater than the working one. Therefore, for stable operation, it is necessary to connect the lamps gradually. First, it is advisable to connect the most powerful source, then a less powerful one, withstanding the time to stabilize the operating mode. You can turn it off without harm immediately or in any sequence.

First, it is advisable to connect the most powerful source, then a less powerful one, withstanding the time to stabilize the operating mode. You can turn it off without harm immediately or in any sequence.

Well, now everything fell into place!

I don't think there will be much difference, maybe a little more than five years.
But I am an adept of pricked DRL, it is better not to have it

As the option repeatedly voiced here (and one of the most successful) is the alternate inclusion of DRL-250 and DRL-125.

Dear Bad Den! In my post, I described a more economical, in my opinion, scheme of two identical DRL-125s, when one lamp is constantly turned on and the other is periodically turned off. Perhaps I am wrong, thinking this way, and two drl-ki for 125w are not equivalent to one 250w? I really want to hear your opinion, as well as the thoughts of other forum participants. Thank you in advance to all those who responded.

Dear Bad Den! In my post, I described a more economical, in my opinion, scheme of two identical DRL-125s, when one lamp is constantly turned on and the other is periodically turned off. Perhaps I am wrong, thinking this way, and two drl-ki for 125w are not equivalent to one 250w? I really want to hear your opinion, as well as the thoughts of other forum participants. Thank you in advance to all those who responded.

My opinion-the scheme has the right to life)

Good afternoon, gentlemen! Please tell me how to attach photos to the message?

Select from the left "Advanced form" when a window opens at the bottom in which you need to specify the desired file.

Idling mode is considered the most difficult for the internal combustion engine. Especially for older generation engines.
And, in order not to write twice, on the issue of DRLVSDR:
1. the spectrum of even non-split DRL contains more UV;
2. DRL can withstand rain due to a quartz glass bulb. The DRV bursts instantly;
3. the throttle is connected elementary, the connection diagram is usually drawn directly on it.

About the rain. Quartz glass, just like ordinary glass, cannot withstand sudden cooling. If you pour water on it , it will burst. It's just that few drops fall on it in the rain (and the heat capacity of an individual drop is small), so they just have time to evaporate before causing a cooling surge. Another thing is that quartz glass transmits a larger range of wavelengths than ordinary glass.

I didn't really understand the meaning of this letter, Mikhail wrote that the drlka can withstand rain because of quartz glass, unlike the drv. Why do you write about dousing with water, why is it for the sake of experiment? I don't understand it, but it is a clear fact that even in a heavy slanting rain drlka quietly burns and you don't think about whether it will explode or not. Drv also bursts in normal rain, and this is proven by many years of practice.

The point is not to rely too much on quartz glass and take measures to protect it from rain. I myself caught on DRL in the rain, but I tried to cover the lamp. The fact is that any microcracks sooner or later grow into large ones.

Hello everyone.
I want to make myself a light trap with a funnel and egg cartons inside like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2EvJsGkafk
Do you think the slopes of the funnel are too "gentle"? The diameter of the hole is 6 cm, I think it will be just for butterflies of the middle band.

I would suggest, if we are talking about a homemade design, the following option. As a bonus, you also won't bother with a lamp mount
Table lamp shade:

Here is such a trap with a mallet turned out.
Made entirely from the OBI range.
For the blades and removable roof, I used plastic boxes for storing shoes.
The horizontal bar on which the cartridge is attached is closed on both sides with the halves of the blade, so that the butterflies do not sit on it.

Tell me, please, and through the glass of a car or a standard double-glazed window you can look at the beater for a short time?

This post was edited by PhilGri - 11.01.2019 12: 56

Short - term-it is possible, but it is better to wear sunglasses plus sunscreen 70+

Here is such a trap with a mallet turned out.
Made entirely from the OBI range.
For the blades and removable roof, I used plastic boxes for storing shoes.
The horizontal bar on which the cartridge is attached is closed on both sides with the halves of the blade, so that the butterflies do not sit on it.

Can I have a "list of ingredients"? That is, what was used from the range?

Plastic bucket with lid, funnel, perforated metal tape in rolls, M4 screws, nuts simple and with wings, washers, kramic cartridge, wire with plug, transparent plastic boxes for storing shoes, lid from a food container. Not from OB: dermantin for pasting the lid (I'll also paste it over the translucent bucket so that it's dark inside), white izolon (lining the box for butterflies) - I cut out a sealing ring under the funnel from it so that rainwater does not flow.

This post was edited by PhilGri - 13.01.2019 14: 56

I didn't really understand the meaning of this letter, Mikhail wrote that the drlka can withstand rain because of quartz glass, unlike the drv. Why do you write about dousing with water, why is it for the sake of experiment? I don't understand it, but it is a clear fact that even in a heavy slanting rain drlka quietly burns and you don't think about whether it will explode or not. Drv also bursts in normal rain, and this is proven by many years of practice.

In recent years, I have been fishing on the DRV, including in the rain, I do not protect the lamp, nothing has burst yet!
We have already discussed many times that there will be an excellent catch in the deep forest and on the DRV, but in Akhtubinsk, for example, on the hotel balcony, I certainly use the DRL, which flies better, I also tried DRV, because there are many other light sources in the city. But if you are going to catch in the distance from populated areas, then DRV zaglaza, and even nothing to think about. In Primorye, for example, in the wilderness of the taiga, I caught on an incandescent lamp, so I could not approach it, butterflies knocked me down)))

This post was edited by Alexanor - 07.02.2019 22: 35

Still, I would like to ask for some advice: what is the optimal diameter of the funnel opening for Central Russia? Now there is 5 cm, but there is a suspicion that the krupnyak (hawkmoth, cocoonworms, catokals) will not get through there. Should I increase it to 6 cm?

Here is such a trap with a mallet turned out.
Made entirely from the OBI range.
For the blades and removable roof, I used plastic boxes for storing shoes.
The horizontal bar on which the cartridge is attached is closed on both sides with the halves of the blade, so that the butterflies do not sit on it.

This post was edited by PhilGri - 11.02.2019 16: 23

(PhilGri @ 11.01.2019 13:28)
Link to the original message Here is a trap with a beater turned out.

There are several suggestions for the design of the trap. The basic idea of such a trap is not fundamentally new. Its main detail is its cover. It should have a reverse taper, like an inkwell-nezolivayki. The point is that the insects that have flown in can't fly back out. Further, the lower part should be made of dark fabric, so that insects do not roll to the bottom, but cling to the walls and calm down. and the top is light. The capacity should be as large as possible, and preferably with pockets for the particularly shy. Also, the main idea of such a trap is based on the fact that insects spinning around the lamp in a spiral fell into the hole of the funnel. In my opinion, the separation of the receiving funnel can negatively affect the entry of insects into the trap, but I do not claim this. Of course you should always do experiments

Good evening to all! Recently returned home from Moscow. I brought the MGL lamp and its EPRA for the experiment. I really wanted to put up a photo for discussion, as well as show the current designs of DRL and LL lamps with a screen. I don't want to repeat the "Ordeal of attaching photos", but tearfully ask me to explain what buttons, and in what sequence, you need to click to display photos. With deep respect to all who respond. THANK YOU so much in advance!

I tearfully ask you to explain to me what buttons and in what order you need to click to display photos. With deep respect to all who respond. THANK YOU so much in advance!

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Thank you. The separation of the funnel blades is noticeable in all videos and photos with similar traps. The idea is that butterflies should roll into the funnel, hitting the blade. Although of course, some of the butterflies will sit on the blades. I'll darken the lower part (the bucket itself). As for the bucket lid, which includes the funnel, I think it should also be made dark, so that the butterflies calm down faster in the dark. As pockets, I will put egg cartons in the bucket, as everyone does.

There are several suggestions for the design of the trap. The basic idea of such a trap is not fundamentally new. Its main detail is its cover. It should have a reverse taper, like an inkwell-nezolivayki. The point is that the insects that have flown in can't fly back out. Further, the lower part should be made of dark fabric, so that insects do not roll to the bottom, but cling to the walls and calm down. and the top is light. The capacity should be as large as possible, and preferably with pockets for the particularly shy. Also, the main idea of such a trap is based on the fact that insects spinning around the lamp in a spiral fell into the hole of the funnel. In my opinion, the separation of the receiving funnel can negatively affect the entry of insects into the trap, but I do not claim this. Of course you should always make experiments

Does everything fall into such traps, including cocoonworms? I think you still need to watch for what is falling nearby.

I'll try it out for the first time in the coming season, let's see.
I think, of course, not all of them are included. I will keep watch whenever possible, but I will also leave it on when I leave - with an automatic time relay, so that at 4 o'clock in the morning, for example, it turns off. They say it's a good way to catch late-night flying species.
In addition, such a trap is useful when, for example, you go fishing before heavy rain or between rains. In such conditions, well, it is necessary to put the screen first, then collect all the wet and dirty ones (and butterflies on such a screen lose their decent appearance). And so-I came to the forest, screwed a large roof from the rain to the trap, put the trap on the roof of the car - and no trouble, you periodically come up and look at what is next to the village.

Does everything fall into such traps, including cocoonworms? I think we still need to watch what falls nearby.

Good evening to all! Finally, having overcome the almost" impossible " for me stupid obstacles to the exhibition of photos, I, as promised, put up several photos of my design. [size=1][size=1][size=1][attach
mentid()=310757][size=1] The following photos show the LL lamp with additional illumination and the DRL lamp block.[size=1][size=1]

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Does everything fall into such traps, including cocoonworms? I think we still need to watch what falls nearby.

I have one, only it is not divided by partitions, the diameter of the hole through which the butterflies fall is 45 mm, so even Artemis's peacock eyes also fall into this funnel, so it's a very productive thing! And most importantly, it is possible to catch the morning views. Usually I sit at the screen, collect until 2 am, then go to bed and turn on the trap until 5 am, the catch is very different! There is a lot in the trap that is not present in the catch at the screen. Well, it's easier for fans of small things to calmly disassemble the micra at home than to look at it at the screen. Something like this...

This post was edited by Alexanor - 02/15/2019 23: 18

This is a kit I bought in Moscow. Lamp MGL 70W, EPRA and cartridge for this lamp.

This lamp consumes 82W together with the EPRA. The brightness is 6500lm (equivalent to DRL-125), but the dimensions and weight speak for themselves. There are still tests.

Good evening to all! Finally, having overcome the almost" impossible " for me stupid obstacles to the exhibition of photos, I, as promised, put up several photos of my design. [size=1][size=1][size=1][attach
mentid()=310757][size=1] The following photos show the LL lamp with additional illumination and the DRL lamp block.[size=1][size=1]

No protection from rain and wind resistance, but as a stationary fishing spot is very even.

No protection from rain and wind resistance, but as a stationary fishing spot is very even.
Good afternoon, Alexander! As for wind resistance, I can say that the structure is quite stable. The continuation of the racks are pointed pins driven into the ground. I did not test the design in hurricane-force winds, the screen can easily withstand 7-8 meters per second. But you can safely walk around without fear of getting caught. I didn't install rain protection based on the weather. It is not tied to the lamp in any way and, like the lamp block, snaps onto the pipe separately if necessary. The structure is completely disassembled in 2 minutes, assembled in 4-5 minutes without tools. The top of the lamp blocks are waterproof, as are the network connectors. Of course, it is very bad that the pipes are solid and have a large length-2.5 meters with pins, but they are easily transported on the trunk. A light prefabricated structure is still in development, but the wheel also did not immediately appear.