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29.10.2007 11:01, Guest

Something from the Lysandra family.
1-Lysandra coridon
2-L. bellargus (thanks to RippeR & Dorcadion) cool.gif
3-L. ciscaucasica, Armenia, Sevan
4-L. melamarina, Krasnodar Krai, Tuapse district, Shapsuho river


3-L. corydonius caucasica (ciscaucasica-North Caucasian, as can be seen from the name, subspecies so far).
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29.10.2007 14:49, AntSkr

About hosting, you need to talk with an Insect Expert to someone, whether it will be possible to allocate a level 3 domain for the site. Otherwise, it is inconvenient to work with people, and it will be much more convenient to upload a large number of photos via the ftp client. And everything will look more formal...

29.10.2007 15:37, AntSkr

http://lycaenidae.narod.ru/theclinae/thecla/betulae.htm - I've made one page so far. Subspecies taken from http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/i...tera/index.html. Should I keep the photos in this size or less? I optimized it by about 50 KB, so they won't take very long to open for people with slow internet.
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29.10.2007 17:12, Bad Den

AntSkr, I personally liked Sergeich's version better. It looks more interesting, in your case you can't immediately tell which genus belongs to which subfamily. And frames...
And on leps.it they may be offended wink.gif

29.10.2007 17:25, AntSkr

Yes, I have already agreed with Sergeich's version, I myself think that it is much more convenient. And the link from the previous post is a page with a description of the view, which will be on the right.

29.10.2007 20:24, RippeR

Sergeich's version is good, but I just really like your version - the background is incomparable, the pictures are well placed and the information is conveniently placed!!!!
I propose to combine-in principle, as I already said - the distribution by orders of families according to the Sergeich method, so that when you click on the family-a complete list of genera and species appears on the side of the folders, with authors (which will no longer be as folders or files, but as separate links..). And, already when you click on the view name to go to the page, by the Antskr type.. This, in my opinion, is the most convenient option..

29.10.2007 20:55, AntSkr

Just need to deal with the subspecies. And then where they do not consider any subspecies, but where they are considered. And by what principle are authors ' surnames shortened (if they are abbreviated in the list)?

And also, dear forum participants, start sending your photos (on a black background, as on the laid out page, so far only the tail), preferably all the subspecies you have, and also look for errors in the descriptions and subspecies...
Anyone who wants to create a website-write, as the amount of work is large, I can't manage it myself...

29.10.2007 20:58, AntSkr

And also, if you know "entomological" English well, please translate the texts...

30.10.2007 21:37, RippeR

subspecies should be put all that are available, preferably in the same list. It is better not to shorten the names of authors - not seriously..

03.11.2007 15:02, AntSkr

I made a couple more pages:
http://lycaenidae.narod.ru/theclinae/callophrys/rubi.htm
http://lycaenidae.narod.ru/theclinae/favonius/quercus.htm

Ripper, the photos you sent from 7 to 10 are Satyrium spini?
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03.11.2007 15:04, AntSkr

By the way, if there are a lot of images, wouldn't it be better to make opening windows on top of the page using scripts for convenience?

03.11.2007 16:14, taler

then AntSkr

In principle-not bad.I am glad that at least somehow,but the matter has moved forward.It is clear that the work ahead is huge.And I don't want to go into this endeavor with special criticism.Criticism will come later, when there is something to criticize.I just want to note that I would like to see the entire name of the butterfly, and not just its type(which passes as a subspecies on the page).So for example http://lycaenidae.narod.ru/theclinae/callophrys/rubi.htm - it is visible as ssp. rubi (Linnaeus, 1758), and I would like to see its genus.I have Callophrys rubi intermedia (Tutt,1907) in my collection.In short, I want to say that the name Callophrys does not disappear on the page itself.Well, if possible-a subspecies .Please treat this as a request shuffle.gifIn general, everything is fine!

03.11.2007 16:21, taler

By the way, if there are a lot of images, wouldn't it be better to make opening windows on top of the page using scripts for convenience?

I totally approve!There isn't enough space for all the images.Maybe only one, the main one.For example, when viewing the genus Apharitis,for example, put one image on the page,and scripts or links by types and subspecies.

03.11.2007 16:25, AntSkr

Or leave the nominative subspecies. And the rest - links.

05.11.2007 1:07, RippeR

everything is super, only the pictures need to be trimmed, otherwise they are stretched out.. or is it just me?
7,8-spini
9,10-acaciae
drew photos will do a little later, since now the time is very short smile.gif

05.11.2007 6:00, bora

P. pylaon

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05.11.2007 6:18, bora

P. sephirus and P. zephyrinus

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05.11.2007 6:38, bora

Polyommatus (Lysandra) arzanivi, P. (L.) malamarina, and P.(L.) corydonius.

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05.11.2007 8:02, taler

to bora:
Where did the images come from?

05.11.2007 8:16, bora

to taler:
Stradomsky B. V. 2005. "Golubyanka subfamily Polyommatinae of European Russia, Central and Western Caucasus". 148 С.

05.11.2007 10:53, bora

P. bavius

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05.11.2007 11:29, bora

C.(E.) decoloratus

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05.11.2007 11:51, bora

For those who appreciate genital analysis:
Polyommatus (s.str) shchurovi

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05.11.2007 12:25, bora

M. arion

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05.11.2007 12:39, bora

coelestinus

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08.11.2007 4:10, RippeR

Latest news:
About albergia.. We looked at the Ace, and everything immediately fell into place. The Lei species is found in Transbaikalia, and the label for the ekz in the photo says: Irkutsk. All the same, everything is correct - lei is lei wink.gif

08.11.2007 6:16, Guest

A.leei is a synonym for A. frivaldskii. You don't need to be so reckless about Tuzov, you need healthy criticism everywhere.

08.11.2007 13:20, Guest

A. leei is a synonym for A. frivaldskii. You don't need to be so reckless about Tuzov, you need healthy criticism everywhere.


Absolutely true.
Only this is not quite a synonym, it is one of the Chinese forms of speech.

09.11.2007 17:47, RippeR

What do you mean, one of the Chinese forms?

12.11.2007 3:40, guest: Ekos

Request for help! Dear forumchane, does anyone have a photo of the North Chinese caudate Nordmannia grandis? Well, it is very necessary!!! But I didn't find it on the Internet (I entered both Nordmannia, Fixsenia, and Satyrium grandis - absolute zero). I've heard that some Chinese atlases have images of her, but I don't have them... Thank you in advance!

12.11.2007 4:01, Vlad Proklov

Request for help! Dear forumchane, does anyone have a photo of the North Chinese caudate Nordmannia grandis?

Here, I scanned it from D'Abrera. Get high smile.gif:
user posted image
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12.11.2007 4:16, Ekos

to kotbegemot:
Thank you so much!:) It was me this year in the Khasansky district of Primorye that I came across a female caudate whale, which I can't clearly identify. It is similar to N. eximia, but there are also good differences. I began to dig for the identification of insects of the Far East and got to the teza N. grandis (Dubatolov put it there), but there is no description of this species at all! And so the thought crossed my mind that it was her. But it turned out now that it wasn't. One of these days I will post a photo of this female, I want to hear opinions about this. Although, now I think it's just an aberrant instance.

13.11.2007 5:36, Ekos

Hello everyone I post photos of this strange female caudate. It is the topmost in a row of three butterflies. The second and third butterflies are female Nordmannia eximia, which this strange female looks more like. An unidentified female was caught in August of this year in the Khasansky district of Primorye, on the Gamov Peninsula. Female eximia are from the Bikinskiy district of the Khabarovsk Territory and Khabarovsk. Sorry for the quality... Write down who thinks what about the species belonging to the upper female. I am inclined to think that this is also an exemia, but my doubts are strong...

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13.11.2007 5:51, Guest

I also found photos of Nordmannia mera on the Internet, which my copy looks very similar to.

13.11.2007 5:53, Ekos

I also found pictures of Nordmannia mera on the Internet, which is very similar to my copy.


It was me smile.gif

14.11.2007 2:58, Ekos

Doesn't anyone have anything to say about my tailbone? eek.gif Well, say at least something smile.gif

14.11.2007 3:46, Vlad Proklov

Doesn't anyone have anything to say about my tailbone? eek.gif Well, say something smile.gif

I'm not a big connoisseur (or fan) of mace-moustaches -- but I think it's eximia. I even find your doubt strange...
Update: Ugh, what latior, fixed it smile.gif

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 11/14/2007 03: 47
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14.11.2007 4:34, Ekos

kotbegemot:
Thanks! smile.gif I doubt it mainly because of the white bandages on the underside of both the front and rear fenders. First, the bandages on all the wings are very far from the edge of the wings (this can be seen when comparing with my eximies, all eximies have them much closer to the edge). Then, the band at the bottom of the front wings is perfectly smooth semicircular (much smoother than in eximia). Well, on the rear fenders it is very broken and the W-shaped protrusion itself is different. In addition, the blue spot is less pronounced below the hind wings, and the black one is smaller in size than usual. It's just that a lot of eximies have passed through my hands, but this is the first time I've seen such an instance (after all, it's very different from them). Therefore, such doubts...

14.11.2007 4:41, Vlad Proklov

kotbegemot:
Thanks! smile.gif I doubt it mainly because of the white bandages on the underside of both the front and rear fenders. First, the bandages on all the wings are very far from the edge of the wings (this can be seen when comparing with my eximies, all eximies have them much closer to the edge). Then, the band at the bottom of the front wings is perfectly smooth semicircular (much smoother than in eximia). Well, on the rear fenders it is very broken and the W-shaped protrusion itself is different. In addition, the blue spot is less pronounced below the hind wings, and the black one is smaller in size than usual. It's just that a lot of eximies have passed through my hands, but this is the first time I've seen such an instance (after all, it's very different from them). Therefore, such doubts...

Yes, aberration, what is there...
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14.11.2007 5:02, Ekos

kotbegemot:
I'm also more inclined to the same idea...

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