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31.10.2009 9:08, okoem

bora
Can I see a photo of the P. elena imago?
Is it possible to distinguish typical specimens by their appearance? Even if not for sure, but at least with a high degree of probability? What would not cook to no avail obviously icarus.

31.10.2009 9:29, okoem

Polyommatus thersites (Cantener, 1834)
June 6, 2009, Crimea, vicinity of Feodosia, Dvuyakornaya dolina.
Photos in nature.
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Polyommatus icarus (Rottemburg, 1775)
June 17, 2009, Crimea, Dzhankoy neighborhood, Izumrudnoye village.
Photos in nature.
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Pseudophilotes bavius (Eversmann, 1832)
June 11, 2009, Crimea, Shchelkino neighborhood, Kazantip metro station.
Photos in nature.
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31.10.2009 9:45, bora

okoem

Here is the specimen for which the nuclear gene ITS2 was studied, which differs by 6.2% from the sympatric icarus. It is now estimated that about 2% of differences are sufficient for species specificity. M. Wiemers of the University of Vienna calculated the secondary structure of RNA transcribed from the gene for this specimen. An entire loop is missing.

This post was edited by bora - 10/31/2009 10:14 am

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31.10.2009 12:44, palvasru4ko

I think this is a caterpillar of Callophrys rubi (if I'm wrong, please correct me. Thank you in advance).
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Caterpillar found on this plant (Crimea, Lower Kutuzovka, 02.06.2009).
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At home, I fed them for about a week - it turned out like this:
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The chrysalis is lying there, seemingly still alive. Waiting for spring...
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31.10.2009 13:02, okoem

I think this is a caterpillar of Callophrys rubi (if I'm wrong, please correct me. Thank you in advance).
In my opinion, it is. The plant is a blackhead, if I'm not mistaken.
By the way, sometimes the pupae of raspberries can make creaking sounds when they are worried.
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31.10.2009 13:09, okoem

Aricia agestis ([Denis & Schiffermuller], 1775)
March 16, 2009, Crimea, neighborhood of Feodosia, Primorskiy settlement.
Photos in nature.

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31.10.2009 13:20, okoem

Lycaena phlaeas (Linnaeus, 1761)
October 28, 2009, ex ovo October 15, 2009, Crimea, vicinity of Feodosia, Primorskiy settlement.

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31.10.2009 13:41, RippeR

bora:
please tell us what kind of Elena, where it is found and how to distinguish (without RNA and DNA analysis) smile.gif

31.10.2009 13:43, barko

bora:
please tell us what kind of Elena is, where it is found and how to distinguish it (without RNA and dna analysis) smile.gif
Characteristics of the taxon Polyommatus elena
Stradomsky et Arzanov, 1999 (Lepidoptera: Lycaenidae)

http://eversmannia.entomology.ru/eversmannia_05_15.pdf
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31.10.2009 14:47, RippeR

Okay, it's clear that nothing is clear ))

And who can tell me what about ikarus Komi ??? What kind of species/subspecies is there??? They are almost like normal ikaruses on the bottom and top. large size. But the blue is a little bluer and a little brighter. Although I didn't compare it thoroughly.
I can take a photo, although it doesn't make much sense - because there is nothing close there, and the type of icarus is typical..practically.

31.10.2009 16:00, bora

In Komi, ikarus is known as ikarus - it is genetically identical, for example, to Greek ones

Lycaena thersamon: caterpillar and pupa
and Callophrys chalybeitincta - all stages: Karachay-Cherkessia, Moussa-Achitara horseradish, 2000 m, June 2009, eggs and development on Vicia spp.

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31.10.2009 16:05, barko

Tarucus balkanicus (Freyer, 1845) Cyprus, Larnaca June 28

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31.10.2009 16:41, bora

Neolycaena rhymnus eggs covered with bristles from the female's abdomen

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01.11.2009 0:31, RippeR

Please help me! Krasnodar Krai (On the border with Cherkessia), Rocky Ridge.
topsy-turvy?77
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01.11.2009 1:59, Kharkovbut

Please help me! Krasnodar Krai (On the border with Cherkessia), Rocky Ridge.
topsy-turvy?77
IMHO, teleius...
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01.11.2009 5:35, bora

For comparison, M. teleius - Stavropol Territory, roc. Kislovodsk

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01.11.2009 14:23, RippeR

now everything is clear. And then I was confused by the dark bottom, and since there were no nominatives for any of the jvuh species before.

01.11.2009 15:49, okoem

Everes alcetas (Hoffmannsegg, 1804)
August 11, 2009, surroundings of Stary Krym, Kurskoye village, Mokry Indol River valley.
Male and female, photo in nature.

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01.11.2009 18:42, Liparus

  okoem

Here is the specimen for which the nuclear gene ITS2 was studied, which differs by 6.2% from the sympatric icarus. It is now estimated that about 2% of differences are sufficient for species specificity. M. Wiemers of the University of Vienna calculated the secondary structure of RNA transcribed from the gene for this specimen. An entire loop is missing.


Does P. elena live in the same place as ikarus?

01.11.2009 19:34, bora

They live sympatrically in the south of Russia, elena is much less common.

This post was edited by bora - 01.11.2009 19: 37

01.11.2009 20:04, RippeR

Can I tell you more about Elena's area? Better yet, where is Elena, where is not Icarus?

01.11.2009 20:27, Liparus

They live sympatrically in the south of Russia, elena is much less common.

And what does this word mean - sympatric?

01.11.2009 20:27, Kharkovbut

Can I tell you more about Elena's area? Better yet, where is Elena, where is not Icarus?

Do not be too lazy to read the work, see the link to which in the post #184. wink.gif

01.11.2009 20:28, Kharkovbut

And what does this word mean - sympatric?

Together. smile.gif

01.11.2009 20:32, bora

In the Rostov region, there are a couple of points only in untouched protected areas. The local population in the type locality in the Don Delta, where the density was up to 20-30 specimens per 100 sq. m. in the 90s, was completely destroyed-filled in with concrete and built up with an elite cottage village and additionally watered with insecticides. GUK wrote to me that now it is still found in the Volgograd region. And Icarus is ubiquitous in the south.

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01.11.2009 20:53, RippeR

Kharkovbut:
and there are no new data available since 2005?
And then the question is-can you tell where Elena and Icarus fly at different times, so that they can accurately name the species..?

01.11.2009 21:04, Kharkovbut

Kharkovbut:
and there are no new data available since 2005?
And then the question is-can you tell where Elena and Icarus fly at different times, so that they can accurately name the species..?
There are answers in the paper... smile.gif About the new data bora wrote.

I don't have my own data, we haven't found elena (although I didn't cook icarus en masse... wink.gif
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01.11.2009 21:18, vasiliy-feoktistov

28.07.2009 M. O. Balashikha district Zheleznodorozhny.
Polyommatus (Polyommatus) icarus Rottemburg, 1775
Thanks to Ripper for the definition.

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01.11.2009 21:23, RippeR

icarus
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04.11.2009 20:18, borov

Aricia anteros, larva, near Mariupol, September 2008

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06.11.2009 21:47, borov

Some more anteros, imago release, May 2007

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06.11.2009 23:05, okoem

Plebeius argus (Linnaeus, 1758)
June 23, 2009, Crimea, Feodosia, Tepe-Oba.
Male and female, photo in nature.

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16.11.2009 0:57, palvasru4ko

The female Maculinea arion (Linnaeus, 1758) lays an egg on an Oregano flower.
Crimea, north-east of Sevastopol, Frontnoye, July 22, 2009. Photos in nature.

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In the same place and on the same day-male Lysandra coridon (Poda, 1761)

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16.11.2009 20:21, Yakovlev

Agrodiaetus mediator paratypes

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16.11.2009 23:13, Yakovlev

Syntype of the Frivaldian caudate. The instance is more than 150 years old. Caught by a unique sbshchik Kindermann in SV Kazakhstan

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17.11.2009 17:33, Yakovlev

Unique golubyanka Pseudophilotes svetlana Yakovlev, 2003 from Mongolia. No one believed in the existence of panope in Mongolia. And then Zhdanko collected and on the southern Tarbagatay!

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17.11.2009 18:39, Yakovlev

one of the rarest pigeons of the Palearctic - L. dabrerai Balint

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18.11.2009 15:54, Yakovlev

And here's a little more from the land of blue sky and pigeons

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19.11.2009 17:27, Yakovlev

Golubyanka, which was not included in the book of Tuzov and K. However, I have seen a couple of things from the Southern Military District of Kazakhstan in various Western collections. Palaeophilotes triphisina Stgr.

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22.11.2009 19:25, Yakovlev

A few more pigeons

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