Arctiidae-dippers

The fact that everyone
is affluent has nothing to do with it.
I do not know why this is so.

Poor in spirit?

Poor in spirit?

Parenting, I think.

Beggars-please God and go to heaven!

In general, this is true, the older and middle generation of our entomologists do not know how to sell their work, like Westerners. And everyone is waiting for something waiting waiting.....

Beggars-please God and go to heaven!

In general, this is true, the older and middle generation of our entomologists do not know how to sell their work, like Westerners. And everyone is waiting for something waiting waiting.....

In the "West" (hell, I don't like that word) - they don't know how either, they just have a place to get a job there. As it once was in the USSR.

but a new generation of professional entomologists can sell themselves and their collections

but a new generation of professional entomologists knows how to sell themselves and their fees

Stas, new and old are no different. Including from the West.
Well, okay already =)

ok

Please excuse me, but what is it - once a professional, immediately and "second class"? I don't remember any high-quality works on the TAXONOMY of bears written by Russian amateurs... In the best case - faunalism. But I've NEVER considered amateurs "second-class" people. There were always quite a few high-class specialists among the amateurs! Another thing is that we live in THIS state, and not in another. What is possible in the "west" - to deal with other territories and fauna - is impossible in our country. Currently, the Russian Academy of Sciences 'departments are introducing almost a system of" serfdom "with an urgent" non-recommendation " to engage in other territories. For example, in Novosibirsk, we are recommended to: 1) deal with the south of Western Siberia, 2) publish ONLY in WoS, 3) have a high citation index. Probably all forumchane understand that in entomology at the same time to get all this is absolutely impossible. To have a relatively acceptable citation index in entomology, first of all, you need to do what they do in the west - the tropics. But just try to mention that you need trips to tropical countries, or to Western museums - the authorities will immediately eat it with giblets! The higher-ups of the institute will also immediately be eaten by the higher-ups from the presidium! For example, I still have to carry out the most interesting work on the lepidoptera of the Amur region (mainly the little-explored Lower Amur region), regardless of the position of high authorities. You can'T study the Amur region in the SB RAS! So what does "beggary"have to do with it?

Conclusion: how to live well "on free bread"

1) deal with the south of Western Siberia, 2) publish ONLY in WoS, 3) have a high citation index.

To meet these criteria, you only need to change your group. What is successfully forced in "Western" institutions. If you want to work for us, you can deal with aphids or weevils. Museum entomologists are curators of the collection, leading a group is their own business, they don't get paid for it.

It's not quite like that (or not at all)! Even when dealing with weevils (for example, Legals), our native government does not give money for this either... On aphids-also. Who cares about crops now? Now you can do without importing. The aphid specialist at our institute also doesn't need money... And among the bears there is an American white butterfly - you can't get money for its monitoring either. Everything is captured by others. I once told the director that a couple of years ago I discovered a mass arrival of a meadow moth in Khabarovsk, and immediately made a fuss, including trying to reach the district authorities. As a result, the Khabarovsk region suffered less from the moth than the neighboring ones. I told the director about this, and he just laughed that they would just laugh at me if I tried to find money for a Khabarovsk moth! So it's not about the selected group at all. Probably, it would be possible to find some money for the fight against harmful insects, but for taxonomics and fauna - never get money. Even in the case of an economically important group!

And foreign specialists, even in economically important groups, will never be interested in information on the south of Western Siberia!

This post was edited by vvdubatolov - 14.11.2011 17: 09

Almost all of my comments concerned Christof's fees. He traveled mainly for the Grand Duke's money, so the VAST MAJORITY of his fees were transferred to him, and are now kept in ZINA. Christopher kept one copy of many taxa for himself; this collection ended up in London (it is possible that after his death). The instances of the syntype series of these two collections are IDENTICAL, so lectotypes can be distinguished in either of these collections. But the most important thing here is who is the first, but not only designates in the collection, but also publishes it. I managed to do this much earlier in my articles in the 80s and 90s. Gabor didn't ask me for my articles (he ruined our relationship in 1991 and never contacted me), so he didn't have such literature. He seemed to think he was doing his job for the first time. He has never worked at ZINA, and he doesn't know this collection at all. That's why I hoped that London has everything. In the end, it turned out differently. Conclusion : if you are starting to work in a group for the first time (as Gabor did when he was an expert in scoops), please ask what other colleagues have done before. There is a minimum Zoological Record for this. But better yet, start contacting your colleagues who work in this field.

Grumm also traveled for the Grand Duke's money, but kept much more than Christoph. And during his lifetime, he sold his collection to Rothschild (through Elwes). Rothschild (wealth, it seems, obscures the mind...) in March 1910 began to publish a catalog of his collection of bears (an instance!), managed to produce a couple of issues (the second - in May), but in the fall of 1910 a terrible scandal broke out in Russia, and all his colleagues turned away from Grumm-lepidopterologists (he went for the same money of the Grand Duke, and the fees spent on this money were sold to England). As a result, the catalog of bears of the Rothschild collection stopped being published (I should have thought earlier and not declassified the suppliers!), and Grumm stopped working on butterflies, and was very perplexed why his colleagues turned away from him. A little bit about this story is written in the gallery of lepidopterologists, but there is no information that it was the bears who were "involved" here, and Rothschild is confused with Elves.

Avinov, it seems, was able to take part of the collection with him. But I haven't heard about Alferaki's training camp in London. His fees were being passed on (sold?) only to O. Staudinger. So these were not inter-museum exchanges...

Part of the Grum-Grzhimailo collection is kept in the collection of the Finnish Museum of Natural History. This is the former Dusquet collection.

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Please tell me where you can read about these specific organs located on the tip of the abdomen of male bears.

Please tell me where you can read about these specific organs located on the tip of the abdomen of male bears.

Here is a good bibliography in this article (see Discussion > Arctiinae):




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Please help me identify it:Crimea, Bakhchisarai district, Predushchelnoye village, 22. VI. 2010 32mm leg.Shaporinsky V.

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Please help me identify it:Crimea, Bakhchisarai district, Predushchelnoye village, 22. VI. 2010 32mm leg.Shaporinsky V.

This is not a dipper, but a wave bear Euroctis chrysorrhoea.

For mikee:

Unfortunately, you are wrong, the American white butterfly did not reach the Far East through the continent... In Japan, it appeared even earlier than in Western Europe, back in 1945 (as a result of the occupation). For about ten years it did not cross the sea, but in 1958 it appeared in Korea, and two decades later, in 1979, in China, in one of the north - eastern provinces, in Liaoning, after which it began to spread actively to the west, south and somewhat more slowly to the north. As far as I know, this species has not yet reached Northwestern China (Xinjiang), but during the 90s and early 2000s it spread across Central Asia, reaching Eastern Kazakhstan by 2003. So while the range of the species in Eurasia is not continuous.

I think your find is most likely to be Spilosoma urticae... For example, like most of the northern Iranian finds. And what exactly is this place in the Spassky district? God forbid, there will be H. cunea, then it will be necessary to raise the coastal quarantine workers to destroy the hearth.

Good afternoon, Vladimir Viktorovich. Finally, I got around to unpacking the material. The result is shown in the photo. Unfortunately, the forum, for some reason, does not accept large-size photos. I hope that the presented quality will be sufficient.
So, what's your verdict?

This is Spilosoma urticae Esp., f. mandli Schawerda. It is a typical form for South Primorye populations, but already in the Amur region there are few spots, as in the Spilosoma [urticae] sangaica Walker type.

The American white butterfly was caught in the Southern Primorye region this year. Quarantine workers. Yes, they do their job well. Thank them for that.

This is Spilosoma urticae Esp., f. mandli Schawerda. It is a typical form for South Primorye populations, but already in the Amur region there are few spots, as in the Spilosoma [urticae] sangaica Walker type.

The American white butterfly was caught in the Southern Primorye region this year. Quarantine workers. Yes, they do their job well. Thank them for that.

Thanks !

Who could it be?

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Who could it be?

Aloa marginata (Donovan, 1805)

Dear colleagues! If you are trying to determine the tropics from a NON-labelled specimen, don't forget that your definition may be WRONG!!!

I appeal to rhopalocera.com: if you want your butterflies to be identified WITHOUT mistakes, don't forget to inform us about the place of collection of your specimen (show respect to the person you are referring to!). Which is exactly what happened in the end.

The first, marginata, does not belong to the genus Aloa at all; it is Paramsacta marginata (Donovan). The genitals are quite different. This is a species of Australian-New Guinea fauna, so its presence in humans in Russia is extremely unlikely. Moreover, this butterfly has developed a black stroke along the posterior vein of the central cell of the front wings! By the way, the genus Paramsacta is also found in Indochina and India west to southern Pakistan. But there are completely different views.

The specimen depicted is most similar to Aloa lactinea (Cramer, 1777). This species is common, and is widely distributed throughout East Asia from Northern China to the Sunda Islands.

Butterfly from the Pyungeler collection. If there was a label , I would bring it. I don't seem to suffer from sclerosis yet, and I always give you my geography.

Also a riddle with an incomprehensible accompanying note.
It seems to me that this is Alpenus investigatorum, (Karsch, 1898), but the abdomen is confused. Therefore, I ask you to confirm or refute the definition.
Africa, Ethiopia. November 2011. Unfortunately, I can't provide any other data.
Upper and lower sides:

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What is this species?
(Ethiopia)

What is this species?
(Ethiopia)

Amphicallia pactolicus, (Butler, 1888) most likely you have.
With my-would from there-same deal (higher)

Thank you.
Such as yours, it seems, are also included in the fees. There are several species of them flying there, white with specks.

We need the help of specialists .I recently sorted out my collections of bears.And among the specimens that I had previously identified as S. lubricipedum, there were several that I doubted. Photos of these copies are placed here.Are they really all lubricipedum, or maybe there are urticae among the specimens listed below?

Ivanovo region, Shuisky district, Krasnoarmeyskoye village, garden plot No. 34, on light

1)04.06.2010


2)04.06.2010


3)19.06.2011


4)10.06.2009


5)18.06.2011


6)19.06.2011

1 - Amata nigricornis?
2 - 29.07.2011 Kazakhstan, Karaganda reg., Kazakhsky Melkosopochnik, 11 km E of Chaltas, 779 m

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Two bears from Tajikistan (thanks to Andrey). One (second) is very similar to Nebrarctia guttata. The first one is also possible, but it can also be transversa, especially since the terms of capture differ. I hope for the help of a specialist!
1 - 28.07.11 (Nebrarctia transversa?) Kurgan-Tyubinsk region, Shipad village 2-05.07.
11 (Nebrarctia guttata) Darvaz mts; Habu-Robot pass. Haburobad

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Dear forumchane! Please excuse me for not visiting the forum for a long time - we have started repairs in the museum, so everything has turned upside down.
So, for TEMPUS:
1) Spilosoma urticae, female
2) Spilosoma lubricipedum, female
3-6) Spilosoma lubricipedum
However, in the last male, you need to look at the length of the scallops on the antennae, if they are long, then-lubricipedum, if short-urticae

For NicoSander:
Syntomis is more like S. transcaspica, but it is better to check with V. V. Zolotukhin

Manulea from Kazakhstan is M. palliatella (=unita), but the lower specimen, which may be M. pygmaeola, is somewhat confusing; it is better to check on the genitals. Photos are available on my website on lichens: http://fen.nsu.ru/~vvdubat/Lithosiinae/Lithosiinaelist.html

For sdi:
both specimens, in my opinion, belong to Nebrarctia transversa puella (Staudinger, 1887).

  
Syntomis is more like S. transcaspica,

More, yet nigricornis resembles.

However, in nigricornis, transcaspica the hindwing spots merge into one large basal spot. And habitually they are distinguishable.

 
3-6) Spilosoma lubricipedum
However, in the last male, you need to look at the length of the scallops on the antennae, if they are long, then-lubricipedum, if short-urticae

Here are more photos of questionable instance # 6 and another instance that I'm not sure of the definition of. Are they lubricipedum or urticae?

Ivanovo region, Shuisky district, Krasnoarmeyskoye village, garden plot No. 34, on light

19.06.2011



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This post was edited by TEMPUS - 28.01.2012 17: 26

Colleagues, all kind, almost all the request.
We are now trying with Vvdubatolov to outline the boundaries of the distribution of lichen Lithosia quadra, a species that seems to be well-known and easily diagnosed. We really need information on its occurrence in the European part of the Russian Federation and in Siberia. There are a lot of points, but to be honest, they are not very interesting in the center of the EC, but the northern and southern borders "float", in the east something is very faintly outlined in Bashkiria and Orenburg, but everything is very indistinct. A white or almost white spot for regions - Leningrad, Novgorod, Tver, Yaroslavl, Vologda, Ivanovo, Kostroma, Vladimir, Penza, Tambov. We would be grateful for any information, including, if known, from local lore sources of the 19th-early 20th century. You can go here, you can - in the personal account.
Thank you very much in advance. V. Zolotukhin

I'll post a photo of the male and female just in case

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Colleagues, all kind, almost all the request.
We are now trying with Vvdubatolov to outline the boundaries of the distribution of lichen Lithosia quadra,
You can go here, you can-in a personal account.
Thank you very much in advance. V. Zolotukhin

If you are interested , I caught a male on the Black Sea coast in Adler. There are also copies. From the Amur region. Need detailed labels?

If you are interested , I caught a male on the Black Sea coast in Adler. There are also copies. From the Amur region. Need detailed labels?

Similarly, males and females in mid-September near Gelendzhik. It is available in "Fishing Reports".

For 20 years of fishing and working with local museums, I have never seen specimens from the Tambov region. If someone has data for this region, please let us know.

Here it is from the Ivanovo region.
Lithosia quadra (Linnaeus, 1758)
19.07.1995 Ivanovo region, Ivanovo, quarry "City", on the light, leg. Molodkin A. N.


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