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03.01.2013 11:29, vvdubatolov

Dear forumchane!

Please excuse me for not visiting the forum for a long time. I returned from the fields at the very end of October, in November I went to ZIN, then reports, distribution, etc.
In October, they closed all my sites on fen.nsu.ru But I moved everything to szmn.eco.nsc.ru, the ability to edit which was returned to me only in the spring of 2012.
Now the site address for lichens:
http://szmn.eco.nsc.ru/Lithosiinae/Lithosiinaelist.html
Changes (additions and clarifications) I will probably make a deposit during January. Keep an eye out.
The Dzungarian Alatau is inhabited by a single species Chelis-Ch. strigulosa (Böttcher, 1905) (=thianshana Dubatolov, 1988).
From the Partizansky area, it is definitely Spilarctia subcarnea (Walker, 1855). Please note that if the genus Spilarctia is used, then the specific ending is a, and if the genus Spilosoma is used, then um. This is because the soma body has a grammatical neuter gender.

To determine Spilosoma from Primorye, you need to better see the antennae. Unfortunately, I can't see it from the photo. If the scallops on the antennae are long, then S. lubricipedum, and if they are short (the front ones are not longer than the thickness of the rod), then S. urticae. And by the number of black dots on the front wings, these species cannot be distinguished.

Please write a specific point for Preparctia mirifica! It is necessary for mapping areas. I would also appreciate a point from Sinowatsonia hoenei! For the same reason.

Dear colleagues, PLEASE do not forget to provide label data for your butterflies! Please do. Something in recent years, they are often simply not brought.

To the KONI participant: do you have any relation to "Robert Cohn from Vladivostok" (Moltrecht's young friend at the beginning of the 20th century)? This is just for fun. The Kona collection includes bear types from the Moltrecht collection from Taiwan, described by the Japanese; the storage location of the types is designated as the Kona collection from Vladivostok. Robert was the son of bankers who financed the construction of the CER. His collection, along with the types, disappeared when he entered Cambridge on the eve of WWII; so far, these materials have not been found. Then he became a famous English chemist. Creatonotos (Phissama) transiens koni from Taiwan is named after Robert. Good nickname!

Now a question for all forumchanam: who and when caught in Russia Eilema caniolum? I will be very grateful for ALL messages and especially grateful for photos! So far, reliable finds are only from near Gelendzhik and Taganrog. From Dagestan, I saw only a couple of females.

Happy New Year to all of you! I wish you many interesting finds of bears and lichens!

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06.01.2013 15:49, rhopalocera.com

Thank you so much for the photo of Eilema caniolum Hb. Yes, that's her. It's just a pity that it's from Turkey. I would really like to see it from Russia. As well as Manulea pseudocomplana from Russia. So far, I've only seen one male from near Krasnodar. I would also be extremely grateful for a photo of Manulea (Setema) cereola from the territory of Russia and neighboring countries. Please, who collected these types, help!

Reliable diagnostic signs of pseudocomplana and cereola are needed. I have butterflies that look similar to the latter type in my collection, but I'm afraid to lie with the definition (they were caught in the Saratov and Vladimir regions in the second decade of June; I can tell you more precisely and put up a photo after my return home). pseudocomplana - this is a dark forest for me; if there is a good image of genitals , it would be ideal to fuck it. As I understand it, this type is not easy to determine by appearance. Outwardly similar butterflies I have, but the region-the Astrakhan region-it is unlikely that it is possible here.

06.01.2013 16:27, vvdubatolov

Manulea pseudocomplana is just the easiest to identify by appearance, the genitals are very similar to complana and palliatella (differences in the size of cornutuses); but the last pair of species on the genitals almost do not differ... All distinguishing features are given on the site. Manulea (Setema) cereola is, in general, a completely different subgenus! In appearance, the butterflies are similar to Wittia sororcula, but not to the complana group. A different breast color should easily help determine M. cereola, as well as the shortening of the wings in females (approximately like in Setina). In the Saratov, Volgograd, and Astrakhan regions, M. palliatella should occur more frequently, while M. pseudocomplana is unlikely to occur there. I think that M. pseudocomplana is easier to find in the Ciscaucasia and Rostov region (in the Azov region), as is Eilema caniolum. And in the Vladimir region should live quite ordinary species, such as M. complana. But where M. cereola is now found in European Russia is a mystery to me. I think it is easier to find it north of Moscow-Nizhny Novgorod-Kazan. From the territory of European Russia, a male and female from Kazan are still known (Eversmann collection, who would catch later?) and two males collected by Krulikovsky in 1897, but no one has seen them yet; Igor Kostyuk is unlikely to be able to find them in the KSU collection. AND NOT A SINGLE COPY collected in the XX century!!! M. cereola was caught somewhat more frequently in the Middle and Northern Urals: in 1930-1931 (Chetverikov in the vicinity of Sverdlovsk at that time) and 1997 (Klyuchko in the Denezhkin Kamen Nature Reserve). There were no more fees! Who will be lucky enough to find this species again? Colleagues, please do your best!

06.01.2013 16:53, Лавр Большаков

..... And in the Vladimir region should live quite ordinary species, such as M. complana. But where M. cereola is now found in European Russia is a mystery to me. I think it is easier to find it north of Moscow-Nizhny Novgorod-Kazan. From the territory of European Russia, a male and female from Kazan are still known (Eversmann collection, who would catch later?) and two males collected by Krulikovsky in 1897, but no one has seen them yet; Igor Kostyuk is unlikely to be able to find them in the KSU collection. AND NOT A SINGLE COPY collected in the XX century!!! M. cereola was caught somewhat more frequently in the Middle and Northern Urals: in 1930-1931 (Chetverikov in the vicinity of Sverdlovsk at that time) and 1997 (Klyuchko in the Denezhkin Kamen Nature Reserve). There were no more fees! Who will be lucky enough to find this species again? Colleagues, please do your best!

I would not really trust Krulikovsky's instructions if they are not confirmed by the material. Some of the steppe and Alpine exotics that he brought for Udmurtia, we threw out of its fauna, because he did not work at the genital level, and in his works he often referred to unlabeled collections of collectors, taking their word for it (like " I saw in the call. Zavadskago. He says that the butterflies were taken in Sarapul", etc.). It is necessary to raise small lists of Krulikovsky and analyze each strange case personally!
And in the Vladimir and other regions at these latitudes, in fact, nothing of this kind is known.

06.01.2013 17:24, vvdubatolov

I was in Kiev in 1989 and looked at a collection of bears, but, alas, not lichens. As far as I understood then, some of the Krulikovsky collection was still alive (only the geographical labels were changed from Russian to new, Latin ones, as is customary in Ukraine). But I didn't find any gross errors in Krulikovsky's definition of the material. Of course, many bears are much easier to identify (with the exception, probably, of Spilosoma, in which even in the works of the late XX century Sviridov identified S. urticae by the color of the antennae, despite long-published publications...) than lichens. But Manulea cereola is such a special species that it is difficult to make a mistake in its definition. Although Klyuchko could not identify this species from the Denezhkin Kamen Nature Reserve at first, only after a review were photos sent, and the species was identified correctly. Many thanks to her for being able to rediscover this view in the Urals! By the way, Chetverikov & Artemov (1993) did not mention it in the Nizhny Novgorod region, even in its north.
So, it turns out that no one caught M. cereola in European Russia after 1897?????

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08.01.2013 12:35, vvdubatolov

The first two are Spilarctia sagittifera, and the third appears to be Spilarctia sinica Daniel, 1943 (short scallops on the antennae).

Now, as for the differences between S. sagittifera and S. rubilinea - they are primarily in the structure of the male genitalia, but there is no posthumous work by Thomas (1994). If the material has not been cooked , the determination will not be reliable (this applies to S. rubilinea). All that I myself cooked from South China-there were only S. sagittifera, and two species with pinkish hind wings-S. variata and S. sinica.

Here are the ranges of continental species of the S. casigneta group:
S. casigneta (Kollar, [1844]) - the western slope of the Himalayas south to Bhutan and Assam. Thomas's work specifically noted (it seems that Witt and his team were preparing the work) that all the old indications for China are incorrect.
S. fumida (Wileman, 1910) - the WHOLE of China, including Taiwan (the forewings are darkish, the scallops on the antennae are short, I almost did not see this species, but one photo I have)
S. rubilinea (Moore, 1865) - Nepal, Eastern India (Sikkim, Assam, Bhutan), China (only the western slope of the Himalayas in Tibet), Burma, Indochina (including Northern Vietnam).
S. sagittifera Moore, 1888-no more widespread species (Himalayas, Indochina, China, Taiwan).
S. sinica Daniel, 1943-Southern China, from Sichuan-Yunnan to Zhejiang.
S. tamangi (Thomas, 1994) - Eastern India: Sikkim, Assam.
S. variata Daniel, 1943 - Yunnan, Sichuan, southern Shaanxi.
S. xanthogaster Thomas, 1994-Eastern India (Assam), Burma.
S. xanthogastes Fang, 2000-Eastern Tibet, Yunnan. And who would know what it is...

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