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08.01.2013 12:59, Sergey Didenko

I should also post my own spilarctions, because I have big doubts about their definition...

08.01.2013 14:04, Sergey Didenko

I will post some lichens with difficulties in definitions. Unfortunately, with the views that Vladimir is interested in, I have a bad time, but what is there.
I'm not sure that the species is not "genetic", but at least approximately.
1 - in my opinion, all sororkuli
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2-complana
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3 - from Kazakhstan
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4-Spain
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5-China
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6-China, the definition is very conditional
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7-china
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8-China
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9-China
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10-China
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11-Yakutia, I got a nigrocollare, the butterfly is worn, but there seems to be nothing else.
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This post was edited by sdi-08.01.2013 14: 14

08.01.2013 14:26, Sergey Didenko

A pair of beautiful spilarctia trees. The second one, in my opinion, has a conditional relation to spilarctions in general.
1 Nepal
2 Yunnan

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08.01.2013 15:24, vvdubatolov

Alas, all Chinese lichens need to be boiled, and it will be difficult to say anything about one female at all - the taxonomy of lichens in China is not at the same level right now... In appearance, I would say that the unicolored yellow ones resemble Wittia sororcula, although there are no reliable finds from Sichuan yet. So you need to cook and take pictures of your genitals. Or send it to me for processing. At the expense of Chinese Tigrioides: most of the species from China previously assigned to this genus turned out to be a good new genus, described by me in 2012-Danielithosia, the male genitalia are very special (a long apical process on the juxtum, usually bifurcated, and assimitric sacculus vertices). Danielithosia immaculata is endemic to Japan. It doesn't exist in China, it's been checked. So, if you want the correct definition (there is some probability that this is a new type), you need to pass it to me for processing. The question is how...
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09.01.2013 6:59, vvdubatolov

I present to your attention the new Danielithosia from Northern Guangdong. The Western Chinese material has not yet been revised.
Given are:
Danielithosia consimilis Dubatolov, Kishida et Wang, 2012
Danielithosia difficilis Dubatolov, Kishida et Wag, 2012
Danielithosia fuscipennis Dubatolov, Kishida et Wang, 2012

The genus also includes:
Danielithosia aureolata (Daniel, 1954): Zhejiang, Fujian, Sichuan.
Danielithosia immaculata (Butler, 1880): Japan and possibly Taiwan.
Danielithosia limayca (Daniel, 1954): Guangdong.
Danielithosia mesospila (Fang, 2000): Sichuan.
Danielithosia milina (Fang, 1982): Tibet.
Danielithosia pallens (Inoue, 1980): Japan (Ryukyu).
Apparently, some "Tigrioides" from Taiwan are also in fact, Danielithosia.

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09.01.2013 15:13, barko

I present to your attention the new Danielithosia from Northern Guangdong. The Western Chinese material has not yet been revised.
Given are:
Danielithosia consimilis Dubatolov, Kishida et Wang, 2012
Danielithosia difficilis Dubatolov, Kishida et Wag, 2012
Danielithosia fuscipennis Dubatolov, Kishida et Wang, 2012

The genus also includes:
Danielithosia aureolata (Daniel, 1954): Zhejiang, Fujian, Sichuan.
Danielithosia immaculata (Butler, 1880): Japan and possibly Taiwan.
Danielithosia limayca (Daniel, 1954): Guangdong.
Danielithosia mesospila (Fang, 2000): Sichuan.
Danielithosia milina (Fang, 1982): Tibet.
Danielithosia pallens (Inoue, 1980): Japan (Ryukyu).
Apparently, some "Tigrioides" from Taiwan are also in fact, Danielithosia.
Please provide a link to the article or share the article itself, if possible.

09.01.2013 16:31, Victor Gazanchidis

Please send S. sagittifera and S. variata points from Sichuan. I need it for mapping. Collection of S. sinica 1996 I know.

Point one-CHINA, Sichuan prov., Heishui env., 32.0031 N, 103.0151 E, 2500m, 24.06.12.

09.01.2013 20:30, okoem

Ocnogyna parasita (Hubner, [1790])
February 24, 2012. Crimea, Feodosia, Mount Tepe-Both, from caterpillar.
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10.01.2013 14:12, okoem

An uncharacteristically colored male of Diaphora mendica(Clerck, 1759)
May 2, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. Found this morning on the wall of the house near the lamp.
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10.01.2013 22:17, okoem

Amata nigricornis krymaea (Obraztsov, 1937)
June 6, 2012. Crimea, Feodosia, Mount Tepe-Both. Photos in nature.
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11.01.2013 10:26, Andrey Ponomarev

An uncharacteristically colored male of Diaphora mendica(Clerck, 1759)
May 2, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. Found this morning on the wall of the house near the lamp.
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Two pale males of Diaphora mendica (Clerck, 1759)
Moscow region, Serebryano-Prudsky district, Lishnyagi village, 23.05.2012
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11.01.2013 18:23, okoem

Chelis maculosa(Gerning, 1780)is very rare in the Crimea
June 17, 2012. Crimea, Simferopol district, near the village of Krasnolesya. Into the light.
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11.01.2013 22:39, okoem

Yellow-winged Phragmatobia fuliginosa(Linnaeus, 1758)
May 25, June 23, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. Into the light.
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12.01.2013 14:49, Sergey Didenko

It would be cool to lay out a yellow-winged fuliginosa in a straightened form next to the usual red one.

12.01.2013 15:02, Alexandr Zhakov

It would be cool to lay out a yellow-winged fuliginosa in a straightened form next to the usual red one.

http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=233833&st=100

12.01.2013 15:31, okoem

It would be cool to lay out a yellow-winged fuliginosa in a straightened form next to the usual red one.
It hasn't been straightened out yet...

Eilema lurideola ([Zincken], 1817)
July 8, 2012. Crimea, lower plateau of Chatyr-Dag mountain, Chumnokh basin. Photos in nature.
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13.01.2013 11:20, vvdubatolov

I recently received detailed explanations from Igor Kostyuk about Manulea cereola from the Krulikovsky collection, along with detailed information about labeling in Ukraine, for which I am sincerely grateful!
The KSU collection contains two males of Manulea (Setema) cereola collected by Krulikovsky: one male from Malmyzh dated August 3, 1897 (this is one of the two males collected on that day, which Krulikovsky wrote about in 1909), the other male from Sarapul collected on June 10, 1910. It is good that there is another point of this type in European Russia! Secondly, all the original labels written by Krulikovsky have geographical names in Latin, and not in Cyrillic, as I mistakenly assumed. Third, as Igor kindly informed us, geographical labels only in the Shelyuzhko collection bear labels in Latin script, while other collections are very often marked with labels in Cyrillic. I apologize for giving you the wrong information at first! Please also note that my phrase "something from the collection of Krulikovsky was alive" should not be understood that the collections were eaten, this is absolutely not true, Igor has always selflessly defended and protects the collection from kozheaters. I meant that by now Kiev has preserved significantly less than half of all PUBLISHED finds of Krulikovsky, the rest could have been used in exchange by Krulikovsky himself.
Once again, I would like to express my deepest gratitude to Igor Kostyuk for the detailed information about Manulea cereola from the Krulikovsky collection!
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13.01.2013 22:16, okoem

Callimorpha dominula(Linnaeus, 1758)is a common inhabitant of the yayl forest-steppe areas
July 8, 2012. Crimea, lower plateau of Chatyr-Dag mountain, Chumnokh basin. Photos in nature.
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13.01.2013 23:24, rhopalocera.com

Unfortunately, the photos are of very poor quality. No specific features are visible at all. Please take a separate photo of the 4 yellow lichens separately with decent quality.


Let's try again.

Nizhny Novgorod Region:

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Turkey:

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14.01.2013 8:52, vvdubatolov

Please accompany your photos with geographical labels. Otherwise, I can define it incorrectly. For males of the complana group, it is mandatory to take photos of the costal edge of the forewings from BELOW (there may be androconial scales) and so that the hind wing is visible from below. For fully yellow-winged butterflies (sororcula, cereola), it is necessary that the back is clearly visible, so that it is not in the shade.
So: the upper male is very similar to Manulea complana, but you need to see from below. Below it in the picture is Collita griseola or something similar, not distinguishable by appearance of Far Eastern species; Far Eastern Collita differ only in genitals, you can not determine the type from the photo.
four yellow wings - most likely Wittia sororcula, but you need to see the back better.
below is one in the picture of Manulea lutarella
below are two butterflies in the picture-it looks like Eilema caniolum, but where are they from?
The last three are from Turkey - you need to see the wings from below to determine.

14.01.2013 9:28, rhopalocera.com

So I wrote: Nizhny Novgorod region (and there are photos)
Turkey (and photos are coming)

Labels only when you get home. I just tried to get something out of the photos I posted last time.

14.01.2013 22:20, okoem

Hyphantria cunea (Drury, 1773) In recent years, it has been very rare, isolated.
July 11, 2012. Crimea, Ai-Petrinskaya yayla. Photos in nature.
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15.01.2013 1:14, barko

  Hyphantria cunea (Drury, 1773) In recent years, it has been very rare, isolated.
July 11, 2012. Crimea, Ai-Petrinskaya yayla. Photos in nature.
Vladimir, your photos of insects in nature are simply wonderful!
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15.01.2013 1:25, Melittia

I agree with Oleg! Is it possible to use them in a multi-volume monograph on the butterflies of Eastern Europe? Are they in RAW?
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15.01.2013 11:13, okoem

Maybe.
In Jpeg format. I don't shoot in RAW.

15.01.2013 12:06, Guest

Maybe.
In Jpeg format. I don't shoot in RAW.


Too bad! jpg is not suitable for high-quality printing.

15.01.2013 12:16, okoem

You're wrong.

15.01.2013 12:52, Guest

Vladimir, I do not dispute the fact that the judgment of quality is a purely individual property. Just to remind you that " the graphic format of the Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG) is intended for transmitting complex full-color images over the network." In addition, jpeg stores color information in the RGB model, which is not compatible with printing devices of printing houses. RGB can be printed very well only in print shops on special RGB machines, which we use very often. Here are the cases!

15.01.2013 12:59, Guest

Further. The RAW format stores color information in grayscale (reducing the file size). And it saves this information at 100 %, and not at 10, as jpeg does. Therefore, after not very complex processing, you get a frame that contains all the color gamut in both RGB and CMYK (optional). The latter format is necessary for high-quality printing in the printing house.

15.01.2013 13:02, Guest

The guest was Oleg Gorbunov (Melittia) due to work not on your own computer.

15.01.2013 13:34, okoem

I do not dispute that there is a difference in the specification of different formats. However, the file format itself is not directly related to the image quality. If the photographer has crooked hands, then saving images to RAW format will not save you. There will be no photos - lost sharpness, bad composition, etc.
Until now, I've sent Jpegs to the publishers I've worked with. Last year, the publisher asked for TIFF-CMYK. I converted my photos to this format, sent them to the editor, and received an answer that the available quality is good for printing.
So I guess Jpeg is not so bad smile.gif

15.01.2013 14:28, Guest

That's great! But RAW is better! By the way, jpeg can also be riveted from it!

16.01.2013 21:23, okoem

That's great! But RAW is better!

Better, but not suitable for me. In the summer, I shoot 200-800 photos daily. If you shoot in RAW, it will be unrealistic for processing volumes. And I absolutely don't need RAW quality. RAW still won't add sharpness to a blurry photo.

Utetheisa pulchella (Linnaeus, 1758) Male on heliotrope. Staged photo.
November 11, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. The flying butterfly was seen and collected by Kai-ya. The butterfly flew directly on the territory of the village, near the forage plant (heliotrope). Most likely, this male was fed on it a little earlier. This is the fourth specimen of the species collected in the Crimea after 1939.
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16.01.2013 23:48, Melittia

Better, but not suitable for me. In the summer, I shoot 200-800 photos daily. If you shoot in RAW, it will be unrealistic for processing volumes. And I absolutely don't need RAW quality. RAW still won't add sharpness to a blurry photo.

Utetheisa pulchella (Linnaeus, 1758) Male on heliotrope. Staged photo.
November 11, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. The flying butterfly was seen and collected by Kai-ya. The butterfly flew directly on the territory of the village, near the forage plant (heliotrope). Most likely, this male was fed on it a little earlier. This is the fourth specimen of the species collected in the Crimea after 1939.
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Very cool that 200-800! But you shouldn't process them all! I think a dozen, well, a little more. That's all. And the rest can lie to the best, as they say. times.

Good luck!
Oleg

17.01.2013 9:36, okoem

Very cool that 200-800! But you shouldn't process them all! I think a dozen, well, a little more. That's all. And the rest can lie to the best, as they say. times.

Volumes - meant gigabytes. With Jpeg, the volume is 10 times smaller.
Processing - meant sorting, cataloging, storing, and backing up...
When shooting in Jpeg, all this is much easier to do. And most importantly, this format is fully suitable for my purposes-publications on the Internet and publications in the literature.

26.01.2013 20:12, Natura

Dubatolova for the point. Lacydes spectabilis Tauscher, 1806. In the list of S. A. Sachkov "Bears of the Samara region "(Bulletin "Samara Luka" 3-92) is not given. In Murzin's monograph (2003) it is given for the Volga River region, Orenburg, and the Penza region. This instance is Tolyatti, pos. Fedorovka, DRL, 02.09.2006.

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27.01.2013 13:40, rhopalocera.com

For V. V. Dubatolova - litozii. When you click on the link, the full-size image opens

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/001.jpg

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/002.jpg

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/003.jpg

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/004.jpg

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/005.jpg

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/006.jpg

http://www.rhopalocera.com/lith/007.jpg

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03.02.2013 16:59, Sergey Rybalkin

Please help me identify the bears.

Altai, Aktash, h=2100m, 24-29. 06. 2011

picture: ______2100_.jpgpicture: ______2100.jpg

East Kazakhstan, Zaisan, h=900m, 14.06.2012 Striatum or bipunctum?

picture: _______5.jpg

Altai, Ulagansky district, 15 km west of the village.Saratan, h=1350m, 3.07.2011

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Altai, Ulagan district, Katu-Yaryk pass, Chulyshman River, h=680m, 4.07.2011

picture: _________4.7.11_680.jpg

Chelyabinsk region, Snezhinsk, 31.05.2012 If it's a dipper at all...

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03.02.2013 17:35, TEMPUS

Please help me identify the bears.

Chelyabinsk region, Snezhinsk, 31.05.2012 If it's a dipper at all...

picture: ______31.5.12.jpg


Leucodonta bicoloria (Denis & Schiffermuller, 1775).
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05.02.2013 16:07, PG18

Yellow-winged Phragmatobia fuliginosa(Linnaeus, 1758)
May 25, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. Into the light.

Black-winged Eucharia festiva. Syrdarya Karatau, 7.05.12
From three copies. "all three were like that. Subspecies?

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