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05.02.2013 17:23, AGG

just GREAT!!! jump.gif Can I take a photo of her straightened out?

05.02.2013 19:17, rhopalocera.com

For V. V. Dubatolova - litozii. When you click on the link, the full-size image opens

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15.02.2013 8:28, Sergey Didenko

A little chelisov
1 strigulosa. Kyrgyzstan, Sussamir
2 simplonica. Grisons, Albulapass, 2300m
3 arragonensis, Spain, Teruel

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15.02.2013 9:54, Yakovlev

Black-winged Eucharia festiva. Syrdarya Karatau, 7.05.12
From three copies. "all three were like that. Subspecies?

I think the subspecies is called phillipsi-Igor Ivy has a long series, the females are all so black
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15.02.2013 12:12, rhopalocera.com

A little chelisov
1 strigulosa. Kyrgyzstan, Sussamir
2 simplonica. Grisons, Albulapass, 2300m
3 arragonensis, Spain, Teruel



Probably Khelisov after all.

21.02.2013 12:54, vvdubatolov

Dear forumchane!

Please excuse my silence - I just recovered my forgotten access password.
So, the definitions for Alexanor are:
Aktash-Dodia diaphana and Setina irrorella
Zaisan-Spiris striata
Altai, Ulagan district, 15 km west of s.Saratan - Setina roscida
ltai, Ulagan district, Katu-Yaryk pass-Stigmatophora micans
last - Leucodonta bicoloria (Notodontidae)

For Paul: black-winged Eucharia festiva. Syrdarya Karatau, 7.05.12-Eucharia festiva interposita (O. Bang-Haas, 1927). This is the only Central Asian subspecies in which females are reliably with unicolored black forewings. Although the subspecies is described from the Ferghana Valley, I have so far never seen any specimens from there. The type of location may have been specified incorrectly in the description. Such females are caught, it seems, on the low-mountain ranges of the Western Tien Shan and adjacent to them.

For sdi: in the Suusamyr valley, according to my material, only Chelis strigulosa Boetcher is caught, in this three-the most right-wing male. But already on the descent from the Alabel, in the Chichkan gorge - Chelis ferghana. The middle one and especially the left one are very similar to it. Therefore, I somewhat doubt the Suusamyr origin of the two left-hand copies. The distance between Chichkan and Suusamyr is very small, so the butterflies could have been labeled the same way. Although only the genitals can give a definitive answer in this case, they are quite different in this pair of species.
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21.02.2013 18:34, dim-va

I'll add it on my own. These black-winged females are found near ore mining sites, it is possible that the dark color (males, by the way, are normally colored) is determined by an increase in the background or salts of some metals, or perhaps by the presence of some isotopes, because it occurs very locally and is somehow really tied to mountains with, it seems, manganese deposits. ores. I also found them in Karatau. And they did not fly to the light, but just sat on the ground during the day. Quite common there.

22.02.2013 8:41, vvdubatolov

Please give a better quality photo of the male Eucharia festiva that flies with such black females. I'll try to compare it with typical images of Bang Haas.

22.02.2013 11:19, vvdubatolov

Message for sdi:

I have a very big request for you, please send me a better quality photo of your lichen from the upper Nelges, so that I can understand the appearance of this butterfly. The fact is that the place of its capture is located near the type site of a completely different species of the subgenus - Manulea (Setema) vakulenkoi Tshist. So, almost wrong, your definition is not accurate. I would very much like to get a better look at your butterfly and, if possible, see its genitals so that I can correctly identify it. Manulea (Setema) nigrocollaris is found in the upper reaches of the Kolyma River and possibly throughout the south of the Magadan region. Another subgenus is Manulea (Setema) hyalinofuscata Tshist. It lives on Wrangel Island and Chukotka. But I didn't see the last view.
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25.02.2013 22:05, кай-я

It would be cool to lay out a yellow-winged fuliginosa in a straightened form next to the usual red one.

Yellow-winged Phragmatobia fuliginosa(Linnaeus, 1758)
May 25, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. Into the light.


For comparison, this instance is next to the usual red and" intermediate " orangish forms:

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26.02.2013 8:37, palvasru4ko

Here is a comparison of this instance next to the usual red and" intermediate " orangish forms:
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According to the original statement, " Yellow-winged Phragmatobia fuliginosa (Linnaeus, 1758) May 25, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. On light", then the number " 3 "(probably-03 or 23 [?]) and the month of JUNE on the label cause some confusion... confused.gif
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26.02.2013 9:52, кай-я

According to the original statement, " Yellow-winged Phragmatobia fuliginosa (Linnaeus, 1758) May 25, 2012. Crimea, Primorskiy settlement. On light", then the number " 3 "(probably-03 or 23 [?]) and the month of JUNE on the label cause some confusion... confused.gif

Of course, she arrived on June 23, I just quoted okoem without checking - we had only one such fuliginosa, and he probably made a mistake signing his photo.

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26.02.2013 10:05, okoem

According to the original statement, " ... May 25, 2012.

The error came out. shuffle.gif The correct date is June 23.
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03.04.2013 16:43, Sergey Didenko

Here is such a bear (and whether a bear?) photographed by Viktor Sinyaev in India (Meghalaya, Nokrek Nat. P) already in 1997. Can someone tell me what kind of view it is?

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03.04.2013 17:15, dim-va

Aren't you worried?

03.04.2013 19:02, barko

Here is such a bear (and whether a bear?) photographed by Viktor Sinyaev in India (Meghalaya, Nokrek Nat. P) already in 1997. Can someone tell me what kind of view it is?
Lymantria semicincta (Walker, 1855)
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03.04.2013 22:26, Pavel Morozov

moreover, there is already one in volnyanki straightened out

05.04.2013 10:23, Sergey Didenko

moreover, there is already a straightened one in volnyanki

The protruding paws suggested that it might be a volnyanka, but Pasha, I looked at your photo (I suspect that the same copy that I posted the photo in nature) and was even more convinced that the appearance is deceptive. Judging by your photos-the bear is definitely smile.gifinteresting, but what kind of male does it have? With feathery antennae, I suppose?

05.04.2013 20:10, Pavel Morozov

The protruding paws suggested that it might be a volnyanka, but Pasha, I looked at your photo (I suspect that the same copy that I posted the photo in nature) and was even more convinced that the appearance is deceptive. Judging by your photos-the bear is definitely smile.gifinteresting, but what kind of male does it have? With feathery antennae, I suppose?

it differs little from the female, also black with white spots. Antennas typical for limantria

05.04.2013 20:49, chebur

The protruding paws suggested that it might be a volnyanka, but Pasha, I looked at your photo (I suspect that the same copy that I posted the photo in nature) and was even more convinced that the appearance is deceptive. Judging by your photos-the bear is definitely smile.gifinteresting, but what kind of male does it have? With feathery antennae, I suppose?

Photo of a male Lymantria semicincta (Walker, 1855) from Northwestern India. It's still different from the female. (Illustration from Schintlmeister's work on the genus Lymantria.)
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06.04.2013 8:42, chebur

It would be necessary to move these posts to the topic on volnyankam.

12.04.2013 20:39, Vlad Proklov

Today I was raking through the Saratov collections and found two females, as far as I understand, Eilema pseudocomplanum. Am I right in thinking it's her?"

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14.04.2013 12:29, barko

Coscinia caligan libyssa (Pungeler, 1907) Sicily, Etna (ex ovo)

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19.04.2013 17:39, Aleksandr Ermakov

Dear experts, tell me some good quality keys for Russian Spilosoma

19.04.2013 21:28, Melittia

There are no such people! weep.gif

22.04.2013 11:21, Aleksandr Ermakov

Please tell me: the upper and middle butterflies are Spilosoma urticae?
The lower one is S. lubricipeda. Caught in the Severouralsky district of the Sverdlovsk region.
I apologize for the quality of the photo and the average butterfly (where only life did not wet it...).


PS. V. V. Dubatolov identified all of them as S. lubricipeda from the photo.

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30.04.2013 0:10, Vlad Proklov

Please tell me: the upper and middle butterflies are Spilosoma urticae?
The lower one is S. lubricipeda. Caught in the Severouralsky district of the Sverdlovsk region.
I apologize for the quality of the photo and the average butterfly (where only life did not wet it...).
PS. V. V. Dubatolov identified all of them as S. lubricipeda from the photo.

First, probably, urticae.

30.04.2013 3:39, Konung

The first, probably, is urticae.

lubricipeda

30.04.2013 6:19, vvdubatolov

Spilosoma lubricipedum and Spilosoma urticae can be reliably distinguished by the antennae of males. In S. lubricipedum, the antennal scallops are long, the front scallops are 2-3 times longer, and the rear scallops are up to 5 times longer than the thickness of the antennal shaft. In S. urticae, the scallops of the antennae are short - the anterior ones are approximately equal, and the posterior ones are about twice as long as the thickness of the antennal shaft. These are very good and clearly visible signs. In the above photo, even the top specimen shows that the scallops on the antennae are long. There are also good differences in the genitalia of males. In S. urticae, the valvae are quite strongly sclerotized, the costal process of the valva is usually clearly shorter than the rest of the valva, in S. lubricipedum, the valva is noticeably less sclerotized, shorter, and the costal process of the valva is often even longer than the rest of the valva. On average, the wings of S. urticae are narrower and longer; females can be distinguished almost only by the shape of the wings, which is not always obvious (the holotype sangaica Walker turned out to be just such a female of S. urticae). There are some differences in the drawing of the wings. At S. urticae almost never have any black spots on the hindwings, VERY RARELY (!) there is a single discal spot (I have seen only a few such specimens out of many hundreds of butterflies), but THERE are NEVER spots along the outer edge. But S. lubricipedum varies very much in the wing pattern, you can find specimens even without a single black spot on the wings! S. urticae also sometimes has specimens with a large number of black dots on the forewings, just like the lower butterfly, but the absence of black dots on the hind wings allows it to be determined by its appearance.

Spilosoma punctarium, which occurs in the Amur region, Primorye, and the Southern Kuril Islands (but is not yet known from Sakhalin), is easily distinguished from S. luricipedum and S. urticae by its red abdomen.

mienshanica Daniel, including streltzovi Dubatolov, is very different in genitalia from all Spilosoma-Spilarctia by the presence of a transverse keel on the inner side of the valva (just like in the Nayaca subgenus of the genus Alphaea), these butterflies I have isolated in the monotypic genus Streltzovia with the type-S. streltzovi, this is actually only a subspecies of S. caeria Puengeler, described from Kuku"Nora." This species has three subspecies - nominate (Qinghai, western Gansu and southwestern Inner Mongolia) with a red belly and a strongly developed black wing pattern, ssp. mienshanica Daniel (eastern Gansu, Shaanxi, Shanxi, eastern Inner Mongolia, Hebei, Manchuria and southwestern Primorye) with a red belly and weakly developed black pattern on the wings, ssp. streltzovi (Blagoveshchensk and partly southern Primorye except in the south-west) with a yellow belly; this subspecies has black spots like the previous one, but occasionally strongly developed, just like the nominative subspecies, which revealed conspecificity. Streltzovia butterflies clearly show a black longitudinal stroke between the first and second medial veins on the forewings. Do I need to post a photo of this type?

Spilosoma rubidum Leech (=leucoptera Alph.), which was previously mistakenly called Spilarctia alba (the types of which were identical to Spilarctia robusta), can be found in the Khasansky district, but NO ONE has yet collected it in Russia, but it is known in the R-valley.Tyumen-Ula in China, just a few dozen kilometers from the Russian border. This is a very large butterfly, about the size of Chionarctia nivea (so it is very easy to distinguish Spilosoma from the rest), but the abdomen is completely red on top with small black dots on top. I have already posted photos on this forum. I really hope that someone will collect it from us...

Here, as if everything about the Russian Spilosoma...

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30.04.2013 18:39, vvdubatolov

A big request from kotbegemot - please send the label of the pictured lichen from the Saratov region, similar to Manulea pseudocomplana. I would be very grateful!

30.04.2013 23:04, Vlad Proklov

A big request from kotbegemot - please send the label of the pictured lichen from the Saratov region, similar to Manulea pseudocomplana. I would be very grateful!

Saratov region, Saratovsky district, Priestannoe, 8. VIII. 2010, na svet, Proklov V. V.

I will cook it - and if it is confirmed, I will publish it among other interesting things from the Saratov region, which have already accumulated. I'll let you know the result.

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20.07.2013 23:17, Victor Gazanchidis

In the photo, the bears I caught in Primorye. With a red belly of punctaria, and with yellow judging by the signs outlined 2 posts earlier lubricipeds. But still, I'll ask a specialist to take a look, there are visual differences.

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21.07.2013 11:29, vvdubatolov

for vicgrr, ALL Spilosoma lubricipedum are yellow-bellied... According to the spots on the wings, this is a VERY variable species. In the Dalnerechensk region, the probability of meeting S. urticae is very low...
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05.09.2013 19:36, vasiliy-feoktistov

Coscinia cribraria (Linnaeus, 1758) (pair).
Petushinsky district, Vladimir region, Russia Starye Omutischi, pine clearing, during the day, on the trunks of pine trees. leg. Feoktistov V. I.
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08.09.2013 9:10, vasiliy-feoktistov

Miltochrista miniata (Forster, 1771) (pair)
26.07.2013 Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, district, village Starye Omutischi, pine clearing, by day.
leg. V. Feoktistov.

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08.09.2013 9:44, vasiliy-feoktistov

Setina irrorella (Linnaeus, 1758) (male)
26.07.2013 Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, district, village Starye Omutischi, pine clearing, by day.
leg. V. Feoktistov.

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08.09.2013 11:28, vasiliy-feoktistov

Diaphora mendica (Clerck, 1759) (pair)
Male: 14.05.2013 Moscow region, Zheleznodorozhny, at night, in the light.
leg. V. Feoktistov.
Female: 24.05.2013 Moscow region, Lyuberetsky district, district, village Torbeevo, a power line clearing in the forest, during the day, in the grass.
leg. V. Feoktistov.

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08.09.2013 17:27, vasiliy-feoktistov

This may require an amendment (I doubt it).
Arctiinae → Lithosiini → Macrobrochis
Macrobrochis borneensis Roepke, 1938
22.03.2013-01.04.2013. Malaysia, Pahang, Fraser's Hill, Silverpark, 3.42'54.81"N 101.44'07.65"E Alt.=1285м. leg. Vishnyakov A. N.
Many thanks to Alexey Vishnyakov for the material provided.

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12.09.2013 15:45, Lafa

Caterpillar Borearctia menetriesii (Eversmann, 1846).
Thank you for the definition of I. N. Bolotov.

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Irkutsk region,
Baikal-Lena Nature Reserve,
valley forest on the bank of the Maly Anai River,
9-VIII-2013, photo - O. Berlov

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15.09.2013 8:43, Sergey

Dear forumlyane! tell me how to distinguish Andala guttata (Erschoff, 1874) and Andala transversa (Moore, 1879) by their external features. I caught something similar on the southern slopes of the Hissar range at an altitude of 1800 m. Can these species fly together?

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