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A catalog of the world fauna of fingerflies has been published, where the author (a Dutchman) writes if the species is described from Armenia, the type locality is Russia, and the same applies to the species endemic to the south of Transbaikalia.

And Smart, under his pictures, probably still indicates for all types of fauna of the USSR simply "USSR"... However, I don't know if it has been reprinted in recent years. And, if so, did he get out of the situation? And, if so, how?

Stop, stop, stop, dear friends, let's close this topic. Morozzz has already called Eritrea small, but there will be two or three times more Moldova, and Nepal more. We are all not without sin.

I compared Eritrea to Russia, China and India.
And with Ethiopia, too.

More Nepal????
And I specially watched, alas. El Cazador, for you.

area of Eritrea-121144 sq km
area of Nepal - 147200 sq km

Find me a cossid in Eritrea! Regardless of its area!
I'm from Lesotho describing a new species in honor of our Russian colleague V. Kovtunovich! And Lesotho has an area of....
A little more Red.
My friend - O. Legezin's son-Lieutenant Colonel tankman Vitaly Chablya (a wonderful insect collector) - always asks new recruits - show Africa on the world map. Half of them manage. And even if they never go to Africa, it's still terrible.

More Nepal????
And I specially watched, alas. El Cazador, for you.

area of Eritrea-121144 sq km
area of Nepal-147200 sq km

Which is basically the same thing.Only,in terms of peace of mind, Nepal is still better and in the material richer.

Ah, Roman Viktorovich, I'm surprised at you!
One hero said why learn geography when the cab will take you where you need to go.
Yes, it would be nice if a competent person could distinguish Austria from Australia, let alone Iran from Iraq, and it would also be nice if a person who deals with day butterflies could distinguish damone from damocles, or, at worst, idas from argyrognomon, and not use the OBS method (one grandmother saidso let's start with that, because it is not the one who knows more who is protected and published, but the one who is more competently integrated into this structure, so it was, and so it will be, in fact, this is a much more serious issue than knowledge of geography.

Which is basically the same thing.Only,in terms of peace of mind, Nepal is still better and in the material richer.

Perhaps it's time to start talking about the knowledge of history....
Is Nepal quieter? Yes, over the past decade, a king (with family members) was shot dead in the royal palace, another king was removed from power and a republic was proclaimed, demonstrators were shot in the streets by the police (dozens of people were killed), and Maoist rebels fought with government forces in the provinces (who sometimes took hostages of European tourists). Now it seems quieter, the Maoists are in the government, but who knows what will happen tomorrow...

Like what? There will be a cultural revolution.

My friend - O. Legezin's son-Lieutenant Colonel tankman Vitaly Chablya (a wonderful insect collector) - always asks new recruits - show Africa on the world map. Half of them manage. And even if they never go to Africa, it's still terrible.

This is a special article. And geographical ignorance here is again just a drop of dew, reflecting the general state of affairs. Recruits (if conscripts are specifically meant) - from about the mid-1950s, they did not represent a proportional sample by cultural strata, and now they are already the product of a very strict selection. Those who were at least somewhat up to Africa in their school years belong to the stratum that tries its best not to please the recruits at all. So what is the demand for such recruits? Even under capitalism, I have often had to listen to officers complain about what kind of young people the army is now forced to be satisfied with. (The only thing they are partly happy about is the dismemberment of the USSR, imagine: now among the recruits there are no such problems with all the anasha that the brothers in mind brought to the Soviet Army before 1991).

Stratification of society, you understand... Another thing is that even among the "elite" sucklings, Dubya has become a rampart... So after all, general intelligence is generally unprofitable. Loot!!! If we are still debating whether Gogol was a Ukrainian or Russian writer, then in another country one of the most common answers to a sociologist's question about their native literature "How do you like Faulkner?" was: "How much horsepower does it have?" A friend of mine asked me to leave early to go to the theater a few years ago in a foreign company; the boss (an American) let me go without any problems, just asked what performance. She says – Shakespeare, "Much Ado About Nothing". He asks – is this something Russian? Mayakovsky once said something like this after a trip to the United States :in America (but this is not exactly about America, but about basic values), a worker may not even know (unlike any of our children) that a needle has a point, because he works on a completely different section of the conveyor, there, where the needle is made an eye. And the extra knowledge is unprofitable. What kind of Eritrea is there?.. It is not confused with gonorrheal urethritis – and that is a miracle. Today, not only officers, but also those who teach at universities, are simply sick of the human material that they receive after a full course of secondary school. Everything that applicants know from the sciences is not worth a fifth of the time spent in school. How this is combined with successful passing of exams has always been a mystery to me (after all, it's not always about shpragalki). However, the generational conflict is gradually leveled by the transition of young squalors to officers, university teachers, researchers, etc.From other university teachers or academic scientists in recent years, we already hear such things that even a seventh-grader twenty years ago would have scored two points without any. Time is running out...

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All this also applies to Eritrea + from time to time the Ethiopian army pinches + Islamic gangs.
Yes,and what is there to argue about when Nepal is visited by tourists, and Eritrea by UN inspectors (UN)

As for those who defend themselves, you are right - this is necessary only for those who work in universities or research institutes. And often these are not the biggest specialists. However, if there was a problem with me in the exchange, write to my mailbox. I'm available now and there shouldn't be any jambs. I was out for three years. Sorry if anything is wrong.

Roman Viktorovich!
God forbid, nothing personal!
General considerations on the topic of unprofessionalism, which has overwhelmed almost all aspects of our life.
A world of fragile things, an ersatz world.
Professionalism, as well as knowledge, are unprofitable.

I agree, Guest!
Completely.

In recent years, some university teachers or academic scientists have already heard such things that even a seventh-grader twenty years ago would have scored two points without any. Time is running out...

Oh, right... In a new Ukrainian textbook for junior high school students, it is written that the white color attracts solar heat.
I saw the alphabet, where, if not for the letters, it would be unclear what exactly the artist meant... For example, a girl is drawn next to the letter "Y" (come on, is there anyone here with a higher education and scientific degrees? guess what!). And this nightmare has the inscription "recommended by the Ministry of Education"....
The nature textbook explains how Ukraine is taken care of by the President and God.
With such textbooks, it is surprising that the younger generation knows anything at all....

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I saw the alphabet, where, if not for the letters, it would be unclear what exactly the artist meant... For example, a girl is drawn next to the letter "Y" (come on, is there anyone here with a higher education and scientific degrees? guess what!).

There is not enough data In what language is the Alphabet? In what form is the girl? Options (for Russian):
1. if the national costume is Ukrainian
2. if you have a student with a briefcase (does it start with B in Ukrainian?)
3. if with a broom - a cleaner...

1. if the national costume is Ukrainian

Well... I'm not interested in you!
Right!
How can a girl in the Ukrainian alphabet not be in a national costume?
But my niece, out of childish ignorance, said: "Girl". And on the letter " E "was drawn something similar to a bulldozer (the child's version is" Tractor"), but I guessed it. that it's an excavator.
There were also some other" interesting " letters...

I compared Eritrea to Russia, China and India.
And with Ethiopia, too.

In a straight line, Eritrea is still larger.Now, if you flatten the Himalayas and compare them by area, then indeed Nepal will overtake many , but seriously, let's remember how this topic began. Roman Yakovlev offered to respect Asian territories, learn geography and stop thinking that you can get from Khabarovsk to Vladik on a bike, and from Novosibirsk to Barnaul you can spit it out. In my opinion, such a distortion of geographical space is typical for residents of large countries, even those who love geography. They compare China or their United States with the Altai Territory, and Altai seems so small that ... only Eritrea can be smaller. If we're laughing at the" fucking " Dutch and stupid Americans, let's be as precise as possible in our wording. That's it.

Well, the Dutch are not shitty.
I respect them, just don't confuse Kamchatka with Chukotka. After all, that guy is an expert on the world's fauna. And this obliges!

In a straight line, Eritrea is still larger.Now, if you flatten the Himalayas and compare them by area, then indeed Nepal will overtake many    , but seriously, let's remember how this topic began. Roman Yakovlev offered to respect Asian territories, learn geography and stop thinking that you can get from Khabarovsk to Vladik on a bike, and from Novosibirsk to Barnaul you can spit it out. In my opinion, such a distortion of geographical space is typical for residents of large countries, even those who love geography. They compare China or their United States with the Altai Territory, and Altai seems so small that ... only Eritrea can be smaller. If we're laughing at the" fucking " Dutch and stupid Americans, let's be as precise as possible in our wording. That's all.

Good, good! Let's be more precise in the wording - "not very large Eritrea with an area slightly less than the area of Nepal"

I don't know, because there are some reasonable limits. Being able to draw all the countries on a map of Africa and know all the names of countries and border fluctuations before the 17th century is cool, but hardly necessary.
But this is necessary for a person who positions himself as a specialist in Africa. Probably, a specialist entomologist who deals with the Caucasus or Transbaikalia should be guided there like a fish in water.
Not so long ago, I saw an author's paper comparing the fauna of Transbaikalia with the fauna of Hokkaido and Altai. By Jacquard. And do you know why these territories were chosen for comparison - because the dissertation candidate had such works in his personal library? Probably, if he had volumes of Pinratana and Holloway, he would compare Transbaikalia with Thailand and Borneo.
Maniacal response - we don't have that in the library! This is an answer I cannot accept and understand. If we are talking about science, then you need to be oriented in what is published on the topic - whether it is in the library or not... It's all bad.
I have seen colossal knowledge from R. V. Kamelin, President of the Russian Botanical Society. You know, it's a blessing to communicate with such a person. A storehouse of knowledge. And Kerzhner!? You listen and absorb every word. And I really want to be equal - but it doesn't work out. Here you also need the genotype

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Nepomnyu I already wrote here on the Forum as a mistake friends and acquaintances stopped not in Svyatogorsk, and in a completely different town called Slavyansk?

I don't understand what the hell to worry about if everything changes beyond recognition in a couple of years.
And in my next reincarnation, I will:
First, forget everything I was taught in school;
Second, I will be a male swallowtail and play king of the mountain with other males.
The name of this mountain was invented by people. And they also came up with the idea that I was a swallowtail.

And on the letter " E "was drawn something similar to a bulldozer (the child's version is" Tractor"), but I guessed it. that it's an excavator.

That's not true, it was an Eritrean. Learn geography.

Yes, it is extremely difficult for geography students right now. But it's the same for the adult generation. One lady, a doctor of Biological Sciences, did not see the difference between the Amur Bay and the Amur Estuary – so she wrote in her articles. But most of all, I was shocked by the case of another doctor of biological Sciences. He published an article in the central magazine, in which he indicated a new species for Russia (which I will not write, because he is the only specialist in this group), with the place of capture "Primorye, Victoria village". At the request of one employee from Moscow, I broke my head looking for this village among the old toponyms (after all, many points in Primorye were renamed, and sometimes twice). But, thank God, the original label has been preserved (here is another argument that they should not be thrown away). It only had "P." written on it. Victoria" and the date is January 19. It immediately became clear that at THIS time THIS animal could not have been collected in Primorye (in which, according to some Muscovites, the weather is slightly cool in January). It turned out to be ... Port Victoria in the Seychelles (!!!). Fortunately, the author later pointed out in another article that the view was given incorrectly.

Fortunately, the author later pointed out in another article that the view was given incorrectly.

And what kind of view was it worth going there for?

And what kind of view was it worth going there for?

This is an arthropod-it was collected by accident.

In Primorye, geography is generally difficult. Everything would be tolerable, but people come here to collect animals from all over the country. Classic of the genre - Posyeta Bay. Even in Zin's collections and determiners, one can find "the Bay of Posyet". The same applies to the islands of Furugelma, Popova, Putyatin, Rikorda, etc. But Askold Island should be written in this way. During the years of deteriorating relations with China, almost all Chinese toponyms were replaced in Primorye, and they did it quickly and without much explanation. I come across an old label "Pochiheza, August 1938" - where to find this Pochiheza? You can't find old maps, and the ones that do exist don't have any border areas.

You used to have the Elduga River in Primorye. Does it still exist under this name, or has it also been renamed?

"You used to have the Elduga River in Primorye. Does it still exist under this name, or has it also been renamed?"

As far as I know, there were a Large and Small Elduga.
And now no less "interesting" name of the rivers-
Bolshaya and Malaya Ananyevka

Yes, everything is simpler-it is much cheaper to come to the same Cyprus,Egypt,Turkey than to the same Baikal.It's funny,but the fact is that the flight from Tel Aviv to Moscow cost me $ 200 cheaper than Moscow-Novosibirsk.So it's not just a matter of raising tourism,but also in the ways/roads to it.

We had an analog of the BBC programs - at least in part this function was performed by the "Film Travel Club" and "In the World of Animals"...

What is" far " Siberia? - when I say that I was, for example, in Kalmykia, 9/10 of "respondents" ask where it is...
Och. I am glad that my colleagues understand the problem of a catastrophic drop in the level of education - at least on the example of "applied" geography! It is also symptomatic that a particularly gloomy picture appears among those who have tried their hand at education, like Yakovlev's colleague, for example.
Well, for this, as usual, I will be ostracized ... Che complain about the useless "human material" that comes to institutes, schools, etc. sredn. and higher. educational institutions, if we are all so magnificent, brilliant and busy, disdain to work in school?! And, as you, colleagues, understand, it is not only and not so much in training and education, but in upbringing-when It is already ripe-it is too late to make a Person out of it! And it remains only to moan about the perverted values of modern society and catch the insidious enemies in their endless intrigues... As if we are part of another Society and don't understand How and what those enemies are trying to achieve...
And in general - for urgent matters, problems, creative searches, and so on. It is somehow forgotten that we and our children will live among those who are still in the nursery and at the desks...

I don't know, I've been a little disappointed in geography in the last few days

If you look at different maps with different scales, the perception of the same area turns out to be completely different.. You can't learn anything thoroughly anyway, so really, what's so much to worry about that you don't know this or that..

Here, perhaps, we should talk about something else, just about those people who are very dismissive in certain details.
For example, when a person is asked to deliver a parcel from a person who lives "nearby", a person who doesn't know geography can look at maps, find out about communication routes between points, and whether it is possible to deliver the parcel. Or when writing a paper, you need to specify locations, even if you don't know them.

People just show their stupidity when they speak without thinking, and not when they show that they know something or not, because it is not possible to know everything.

And yet, when you read Is. Island Kunashir in the American atlas, and it belongs to Japan , you don't want to have such an atlas

... and I want to have all these Americans and Japanese!!!

- "Learn Albanian!!!!"

And yet, when you read Is. Island Kunashir in the American atlas, and it belongs to Japan , you don't want to have such an atlas

American atlases are notable primarily for the fact that America is located in the center of the world map, and Eurasia is cut in the middle. As for the names, this is rather a linguistic point. For example, their native Mississippi River is the "Mississippi River". We also have enough of these items (no need to go far-Karelia): Vodlozero Lake, Muramozero Lake, etc.

Well, if you get acquainted in the places where you work, not only with the entomofauna, but also with the culture of local peoples, then tautology often manifests itself in the duplication of geographical terms in this way: lake Ubsu-Nur, Lake Kara-Khol, etc. ...