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29.10.2007 18:54, Meneltar

try asking at bugdesign.com.ua
if you are going to breed, do not forget about inbreeding))

30.10.2007 20:16, Tyomochkin

kossus for wintering millet put in the refrigerator door for 3-5 weeks? And if he does not spend the winter at all? I bred butterflies many times, but I didn't encounter wintering!

This post was edited by Tyomochkin - 01.11.2007 07: 40

30.10.2007 20:23, isara

help determine who it is, what it eats, and how it hibernates. Found it in Belarus

Pictures:
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31.10.2007 11:11, guest: Leoha

They weave cocoons for protection and warmth. Apparently they are warm at home and don't need a cocoon. At home, they are generally strange... I once had a caterpillar that started burrowing into the ground... Nothing has passed. Pupated normally. smile.gif The butterfly, however, never hatched frown.gif.

01.11.2007 7:41, Tyomochkin

kossus for wintering millet put in the refrigerator door for 3-5 weeks? And if he does not spend the winter at all? I bred butterflies many times, but I didn't encounter wintering!

01.11.2007 11:18, guest: Leoha

Wintering is still more reliable. If the wintering butterfly is not frozen, it may not hatch.

01.11.2007 11:23, Grigory Grigoryev

About Kossus:

I have a jar with a caterpillar (in the ground) often remained on the loggia until spring, (I just forgot about it - so in the spring some NEW species was hatched), and they wintered in the freezer, and under the freezer. When I put it in the heat, I don't remember, but for overwintering the cold is necessary, otherwise gus. will dry out.

To ISARA: This is a raspberry cocoonworm (rubi). Look for it above (it was already)

01.11.2007 12:18, isara

And where to put this crimson cocoonworm that would pupate? Winter is coming soon. She still doesn't want anything to eat.

01.11.2007 17:07, Tyomochkin

Put it in a regular jar of earth! Wait until you pupate - 2-3 days! Then, when you pupate, do not in any case wait 24 hours! Next, take a plastic cup, put cotton wool in it, a pupa on cotton wool, a little bit of fields and put it in the refrigerator door! Do not forget to water, because cotton wool - once in 5 days somewhere! In March, take it out somewhere and put it in a warm place (not a microwave oven). And wait.
I really don't know about pupation - does it take one year to develop?

01.11.2007 20:09, Grigory Grigoryev

It hibernates as a caterpillar!
Usually until frost gus. hr. in the refrigerator (I have in the "old", under the freezer), then taken out for some time in the cold. And from there in the same way to the heat. Only the time spent in hol. already minimal.

02.11.2007 0:01, BUTTERFLY

Can you tell me whose pupa this is and how to keep it? Spray with water?
Do I need to put it in the refrigerator? if necessary, when to take it out? When are they usually displayed?
Photo taken from the macro club, by Gene.

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02.11.2007 15:36, taler

Ufff!what kind of beast is this?! confused.gif

02.11.2007 15:39, omar

Saturnia is where from?

03.11.2007 23:27, BUTTERFLY

Caterpillar found on the sidewalk in New York. Is it similar to Antheraea polyphemus? The problem is the pupa content, temperature, etc.

25.12.2007 23:22, mlog

Dear participants, here is the son of my friend raised a butterfly from a caterpillar, very interested in what kind of species it is. The only biologist I know in this family is me, so they turned to me. And I'm very far from entomologyshuffle.gif, I only think that this is some kind of hawk moth, maybe a wine moth (well, this is a very unchildlike butterfly).
A few days ago, he was still interested in what to feed her, but now this question, alas, is not relevant - she lived about a week and died weep.gif
Here are photos of the butterfly, alas, already pretty pokotsannoy-first, she beat against the glass (lived just in a city apartment), and secondly, a young entomologist conducted research with her, so to speak, post mortem shuffle.gif

picture: moth1.jpg
picture: moth2.jpg
picture: 3.jpg

Unfortunately, there are no photos of the caterpillar. The boy says that it was brown, with spots "like a peacock's eye" (well, this is probably a metaphor after all! in general, there were some spots), ate American maple leaves (if we mean the same thing by this, then this is Acer negundo, a well-known infection, I did not know that at least someone eats it).
Here. Please help me identify it!
And just in case he found something like that again, what did she need to be fed? confused.gif

25.12.2007 23:31, AntSkr

Wine and eat, D. elpenor. I haven't heard anything about the American maple, it seems that its caterpillars should not eat, they feed on cypress and other ground plants mainly.

This post was edited by AntSkr - 12/25/2007 23: 34
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26.12.2007 0:18, okoem

And just in case he found something like that again, what did she need to be fed? confused.gif

Not all "adult" butterflies are able to feed. Many people do not need food at all. Those that feed may have different tastes, but for the most part you can try sugar syrup or dilute honey with water, as well as braga, beer, spoiled fruit, etc.
However, I do not think that a butterfly will feed in captivity. Therefore, you will have to force-feed.
And by and large, it is much more humane to release into the wild. In extreme cases, put it to sleep, and add it to the collection. Rather than watch her rip off her wings...

26.12.2007 10:47, omar

Did the caterpillar really feed on American maple eek.gifleaves

26.12.2007 22:33, mlog

Not all "adult" butterflies are able to feed. Many people do not need food at all. Those that feed may have different tastes, but for the most part you can try sugar syrup or dilute honey with water, as well as braga, beer, spoiled fruit, etc.
However, I do not think that a butterfly will feed in captivity. Therefore, you will have to force-feed.
And by and large, it is much more humane to release into the wild. In extreme cases, put it to sleep, and add it to the collection. Rather than watch her rip off her wings...


This is understandable. But it appeared in the winter, where was it really released? As for euthanasia and collection-the child does not have all this entomological tools and relevant skills - he is only 8 years old..
We tried to give her fruit (grapes) and a solution of honey, but she didn't eat it. And how to force-feed a butterfly? I don't know if I'm interested in it myself confused.gif

26.12.2007 22:37, AntSkr

If there is a cypress tree, etc., then they will most likely choose it, and not a maple tree.

27.12.2007 12:22, omar

I still don't believe it was a maple tree. Hawks are very fastidious in their food, and will rather die than eat anything inappropriate.

27.12.2007 12:24, AntSkr

Maybe it wasn't a maple tree. Or was the caterpillar already at the last stage and had to pupate?

27.12.2007 18:24, okoem

This is understandable. But it appeared in the winter, where was it really released?


Then I see. If it was winter, then in any case it was doomed.

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29.12.2007 1:29, mlog

The grapes would have nowhere to go. confused.gif He caught it in St. Petersburg, then brought it to Moscow - and there and there grapes are, to put it mildly, rare... certainly rarer than Acer negundo yes.gif
That the child was wrong about the maple tree-maybe, although he spoke very confidently, that's what he called it, not just any maple tree...

29.12.2007 18:58, okoem

The grapes would have nowhere to go. confused.gif He caught it in St. Petersburg, then brought it to Moscow - and there and there grapes are, to put it mildly, rare... certainly rarer than Acer negundo yes.gif
That the child was wrong about the maple tree-maybe, although he spoke very confidently, that's what he called it, not just any maple tree...

I don't even know what to say.. I looked at Pittaway just in case - he writes that he eats Onager and Madder. In general, it would be nice if he started eating this maple tree:-)
About this hawk moth here you can see -
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/sphinx/d_elp.htm

06.01.2008 17:35, Трофим

I don't even know what to say.. I looked at Pittaway just in case - he writes that he eats Onager and Madder. In general, it would be nice if he started eating this maple tree:-)
About this hawk moth here you can see -
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/sphinx/d_elp.htm

Yes, it would not be bad to eat acera negundi or acer negundo, and scoundrel is just almost an analogy, can rename lol.gifit , I like to call it that way more lol.gif. When in the past or I don't remember, the year before last, I noticed an amazing trend. Tibicina hematodes - a large song cicada sat on this maple, or rather on a young tree. And although the damage from one pest to another is small, in general, I don't even know if they ate the juice of this shrub, but I think so. But the benefit of the maple tree served very, very well, otherwise there would be 6-7 of these cicadas in one trip, even if they didn't catch a crack, even if there was a chorus from all sides. And so almost on bdyudtsa and it does not matter that only males. smile.gif

28.01.2008 1:47, А.Й.Элез

I still don't believe it was a maple tree. Hawks are very fastidious in their food, and will rather die than eat anything inappropriate.


Or they'd rather eat something inappropriate and then die because of it. I once fed euphorbiae caterpillars (!) not with milkweed, but with Ivan tea (not after leaving the egg, but after taking the caterpillars in nature on milkweed); they eat it for several days, then begin to die out – those that are relatively young. But those that are older, have time to pupate after such a stage in nutrition. Those that are younger, but have not yet had time to die after Ivan-tea, survive if you transfer them back to milkweed. But, one way or another, euphorbiae caterpillars do not start eating immediately, but first (in the absence of other food) they wait, starve for two or three days.
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24.02.2008 0:15, t00m

99% of our bears crack plantain on both cheeks. And a good half of the floral diversity of the USSR))))). and "cocoon on the ground" could mean a light cocoon, when the caterpillar only slightly binds the substrate particles together in order to pupate in comfort)

25.03.2008 14:03, Сергей27

How to start breeding butterflies at home, where to find information, please tell me?

25.03.2008 14:15, Victor Titov

How to start breeding butterflies at home, where to find information, please tell me?

Look at the links
http://www.zooblog.info/viewtopic.php?
http://catalog-house.info/?
http://www.babochka.umbura.com/pupae.html
The book" Butterflies in the home insectarium " by the Tkachevs can be ordered here:
http://books.j5.ru/tov/babochki-v-domashnem-insektarii
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1012031/
http://aquarium-zoo.ru/book/terrar.htm

31.03.2008 1:30, Tyomochkin

Kossus successfully wintered))) What does it need for pupation?

31.03.2008 11:44, Victor Titov

Wood dust?

31.03.2008 23:40, Бабочник

Here are some farms where you can buy dry land and livestock:

Philippines-

Leodegario Layron
insectfarm@yahoo.com
MARL INSECTS AND BUTTERFLY CULTURE
P.O.Box 4 Amoingan, Boac, Marinduque, Philippines
tel. no. 042-332-1558
Fax.no. 0063-423-321-558

Palawan Lepidoptera Farm
P.O.Box 171, Puerto Princesa City, 5300 Palawan, Philippines. Tel./Fax (+63) 48 433 5795 e-mail: janp@mozcom.com

WHS Butterfly Farm
info@marinduque-butterfly.com
www.marinduque-butterfly.com

Joseph Malangis
jayehm90@yahoo.com
JLM butterfly & Insect Culture
P.O.Box 02 Gasan Marinduque
4905 Philippines
tel;00639185973748

http://www.tropicalbutterfly.netfirms.com/feedback.htm
info_tbf@yahoo.com

But do not contact us here!!!, Jan Petersen is a fraudster. Tested on our own bitter experience and confirmed by foreign colleagues-
http://www.freewebs.com/palawanbutterflyworld/
Palawan Lepidoptera Farm
P.O.Box 171, Puerto Princesa City, 5300 Palawan, Philippines. Tel./Fax (+63) 48 433 5795 e-mail: janp@mozcom.com

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Indonesia-

http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/Suite/7545/index1.htm - website of the Indonesian entomologist Hasan insect@indo.net.id or hasan1208@yahoo.com

info@insect-center.com
You may also call us at +62 21 860 2731
We look forward to serving you
http://www.insect-center.com/html/catalog.html

www.insect-sale.com
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makassar 90222
south sulawesi - indonesia
phone : 62.816.439.0216
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Costa Rica-

http://www.infocostarica.com/butterfly/pricelist.htm

http://www.butterflyfarm.co.cr/cres/index.htm

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Great Britain-

LONDON PUPAE SUPPLIES
http://www.oxfly.co.uk
lpscontact@btconnect.com

TROPICAL PUPAE SUPPLIES
4 CORNDEAN,
TEAL FARM, WASHINGTON,
TYNE & WEAR,
NE38 8TB,
ENGLAND,
UK
Tel: 0044 191 497 2920
Fax: 0044 191 497 2920
www.tpsuk.com
melpchar@aol.com

STRADFORD BUTTERFLY FARM
http://www.butterflyfarm.co.uk
info@butterflyfarm.co.uk

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China-

www.butterflybest.com
order@butterflybest.com

17.04.2008 17:32, Faustus

Sorry, I didn't notice your theme at first and posted my own one.
I am an entomologist from Belarus, I have been breeding butterflies for a long time. However, I communicate mainly with colleagues who use the Latin alphabet for writing. Now I decided to try to establish contacts with our eastern neighbors as well. My main interest is Saturniidae and Brahmaeidae. But I do not disdain Sphingidae, Arctiidae, Parnassius. Now I breed Brahmaea hearseyi, Caligula simla, C. thibeta, Rhodinia nevara, Automeris io. Later there will be other views. If you are interested, please write (bel_lepid@mail.ru).
We can exchange not only views/money, but also experience. Perhaps in the future there will be some joint expeditions, grants, and publications... With a friendly greeting,

Anatoly Kulak

01.05.2008 20:25, metallman.92

sorry that I got into someone else's topic,but it's very interesting!! Is there anyone here from Moscow who could share(sell)dolls (at least one))) and advise on the entire period before the release of the butterfly???((I will be very grateful!

03.05.2008 19:52, RAY

I'm from St. Petersburg, I decided to start breeding butterflies, but I didn't find any ads for the sale of pupae frown.gif...
if anyone knows where you can buy pupae, please tell me plizzzzz....
and one more question... how do pupae survive transportation if ordered from.... Moscow for example.....
ray1@bk.ru

03.05.2008 23:27, Hemaris

Coming soon: Samia cynthia ricini cocoons.


We accept pre-orders for pupae of the rare hawk moth Langia zenzeroides.

Also this season: Actias luna, Hyalophora cecropia, Antheraea polyphemus, Antheraea perneyi, Hyles hippophaes, etc.

ICQ: 218688280
e-mail: daph@list.ru

P.S. We will also consider any suggestions for cooperation: exchange of experience and material, joint expeditions, publications, etc.

This post was edited by Hemaris - 03.05.2008 23: 33

06.05.2008 0:23, Бабочник

Hello colleagues!
RAY, who do you want to breed? I usually have a lot of live crops....Most of all sailboats.
Transportation is not a problem...

06.05.2008 3:44, guest: роман

good day to all!I'm happy that I found my colleagues!I thought entomology ended with the Soviet Union.I'm from central Kazakhstan.I just connected the Internet.I've been interested in insects for a long time.I'm really glad to meet you!!!!!!if anyone is there,please write to me so that I know that I am not alone....

06.05.2008 3:51, guest: роман

I love hawkmoth, peacock eyes and sailboats!especially the caterpillars,those fat, voracious crocodiles.displayed all local species.I keep my little collection in the city museum. cool.gif

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