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26.08.2007 1:51, Эллин

Bad Den, he will die! next weekend they promise +10 in the afternoon, and a fan of flying to the light will be beaten (I repeat) in another apartment by less sensitive citizens. The main thing that I would like to understand is whether they live in Moscow? If so, I will release it with pleasure, knowing that I can survive... If not, then release= kill...

26.08.2007 2:23, Bad Den

He will die in any case, alas. If it is a male, then after mating with a female. If the female-then after laying all the eggs. I don't think his adult life span will be longer than a month.
For Moscow and the region, it is a migrant, flying in from the south, and there is no permanent population. So...

This post was edited by Bad Den - 26.08.2007 02: 31

26.08.2007 2:32, Эллин

so.. crying means something to me..... http://sungaya.narod.ru/hete/sph/her_con.htm this is him a copy of it or rather the upper photo... or here: http://kubanphoto.ru/photos/34/1357.jpg how he got to Moscow...

26.08.2007 2:37, Эллин

Dear Bad Den, I have a lot of questions for you about the pet... but you are not in the ICQ you declared (((

26.08.2007 2:44, le lapin

So prepare the straightener!
Sorry for the cynicism, but it will be more useful.

26.08.2007 2:45, Эллин

le_lapin, do you mean to dry then process, straighten and sell?

26.08.2007 2:54, le lapin

Well, in general, yes. Only at the expense of sell, I never thought of that. I meant either to keep it for my personal collection, or to give it to entomologists I know.

26.08.2007 3:00, Эллин

I would like it to live ((

26.08.2007 3:22, le lapin

If that's the question, take him somewhere out of town and let him go. After all, the weekend is the same!
This will be the most humane thing to do, and your conscience should not torment you after that. Moreover, you will not see the death of a butterfly.

26.08.2007 3:24, Эллин

le_lapin, i.e. he doesn't care about death? weep.gif weep.gif

26.08.2007 3:38, le lapin

Theoretically, of course, you can keep it at home, try to feed it, and then arrange for it to spend the winter. But how feasible is this in practice?

26.08.2007 3:40, Эллин

Unclear.. here they wrote to me that more than 1 month. an adult does not live

26.08.2007 3:54, le lapin

I have no idea.
Try to find out who spends the winter in this species. It can also be an imago.

This post was edited by le_lapin - 26.08.2007 03: 56

26.08.2007 3:58, Эллин

what does "imago" mean?

26.08.2007 4:56, le lapin

The adult stage, the one that you got.

26.08.2007 8:46, Ilia Ustiantcev

The green hawk moth is a regular migrant. It would be cool if you caught chaerocampa celerio, hyles livornica, daphnis nerii, hyles nicaea, or the more regular acherontia atropos, which doesn't even seem to be a migrant!
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Let him out - he won't get hurt...

This post was edited by Ilya U - 26.08.2007 08: 47

26.08.2007 8:55, Ilia Ustiantcev

Its pupae hibernate. And butterflies tolerate the cold quite tolerably, some even fly in winter. It's getting worse for plants and caterpillars. Some large and beautiful catocala fly at night in October...

26.08.2007 9:24, okoem

that an adult does not live for more than 1 month

Well, yes, a month and a half somewhere. It will definitely not spend the winter. Pupae overwinter in this species. So the best thing is to let him go out of town, then he will still fly for the rest of the month and enjoy life:- ) And at home he will die faster, he wants to fly well - he will beat about the jar until he gets frayed; and how to feed him? So don't torment me - let me out. Maybe he'll fly back to the south again:-)

26.08.2007 23:40, AntSkr

The green hawk moth is a regular migrant. It would be cool if you caught chaerocampa celerio, hyles livornica, daphnis nerii, hyles nicaea, or the more regular acherontia atropos...

I don't think that apart from Acherontia atropos and Hyles livornica, any of the other hawk moth listed above can fly to MO. Daphnis nerii can still fly to Finland, but I haven't heard of it coming across in MO...

27.08.2007 8:42, omar

Release, release. At my dacha, they flew at -1 in October at night, so they will still live.

27.08.2007 13:26, Ilia Ustiantcev

That's what I wrote to Nicias and Celerio, because they might get pregnant, like Pandora once did. But it's a shame to hear about oleander...

31.08.2007 11:29, Tyomochkin

Feeding it is very easy! Dilute honey and water in a VERY small saucer in a ratio of 1: 1, take a toothpick, wet it in the solution, catch a butterfly (not so hard), untangle the proboscis with a toothpick and dip it into the mixture. If the solution is not too thick, she will drink. You can hold it for fun! But I advise you to let it go. I had a bedstraw hawk moth at home! And even in the apartment, he broke the wings. I let him out!

04.09.2007 21:09, Tyomochkin

Dear colleagues, can you tell me if you need a diapause for the gray Hood and the Arrow bunny!? And under what conditions you need to keep them (temperature) so that they come out this season (if this is possible in this case).

05.09.2007 16:39, Ilia Ustiantcev

The hood is gray exactly in June. Strelchatka I think also flies after the winter. And so - + 20-25 I think they will hatch soon. It's not a pity to let them out in the winter? Or do you collect? By the way, what's up with Kossus?

05.09.2007 20:44, Tyomochkin

I collect. True, the hood is already there... Cossus has become impudent! Refuses to pupate! Alive, sitting in a cocoon, which is adjacent to the edge of the jar. Everything is visible through the glass. It doesn't move like that unless you shake it. In general, this year in our district (SVAO, Lianozovo district) I noticed a MASSIVE appearance of Cossus! I've already seen about 25-35 caterpillars in a 100-meter radius! And already crushed lying around! There's a spider web inside! I'm doing a project, I need information about the FAVORABLE temperature and humidity of the pupae content. AND IF YOU CAN link to the info. There is a book-pamphlet of the Tkachevs, but it doesn't seem to indicate exactly there

This post was edited by Tyomochkin - 05.09.2007 20: 45

10.09.2007 15:56, Guest

All questions as in the first post....
They brought a caterpillar,all like amateurs - a jar, grass, gauze..Now she is sitting, attached to the gauze, maybe I threw the wrong one?))
user posted image

10.09.2007 16:17, Zhuk

All questions as in the first post....
They brought a caterpillar,all like amateurs - a jar, grass, gauze..Now she is sitting, attached to the gauze, maybe I threw the wrong one?))
user posted image

Calliteara pudibunda. Eats leaves of yabluni, plum, willow.

10.09.2007 16:26, Guest

Zhuk Thank You Very Much

10.10.2007 20:01, Tyomochkin

It is very interesting: what is the reason for this behavior of Kossus - it sits alive in a cocoon for a month and a half and does not pupate! Alive - if disturbed! I moisturize, the conditions are normal like! This behavior is very interesting! Maybe someone came across, will tell you about it!

10.10.2007 20:20, AntSkr

It should probably spend the winter... pupates usually in May...

13.10.2007 14:49, Tyomochkin

On the pupa (Cuculia umbratica), a non-semetric black spot appeared! I mean, it's probably a side effect of pupal development... What can it be?
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23.10.2007 17:50, Musson max

Friends, please help, this morning I hatched Daphnis nerii, everything was going well, just OK. Yesterday I started to spin, today I hatched, everything was as it should be, the wings grew according to the rules, but then they slowed down and were already in one position for three hours, and they spread out only half at most. The butterfly continues to sit, breathe, move, and flutter its wings, but I don't see the result. What can it be? Reassure me that it's just slowsmile.gif In Egypt caught a caterpillar, brought out a pupa, drove through half the world, and then such a messfrown.gif Thank you in advance for any comment.

23.10.2007 18:29, Tigran Oganesov

Three hours frown.gifago, mine had them almost completely straightened out in 40 minutes, and after an hour he spread them out to the sides. In general, I will move these messages, not in the subject.

24.10.2007 20:33, Tyomochkin

My Deilphila elpenor sat for about 5 hours, only then it started to flap its wings! So what do you have there?

24.10.2007 20:38, AntSkr

I somehow E. potatoria 2 pieces were hatched, without spreading their wings. True, they were in a very hot room, while cocoons taken in the same place and were at normal temperature hatched quite successfully...

24.10.2007 21:49, RippeR

We have tropics in the insectarium hatch differently.. Sometimes in 20 minutes, sometimes in a couple of hours they spread their wings completely , And sometimes they sit dry for a very long time, because the wings are spread out, but they do not dry out yet..
Last year, the milkweed hatched, it took at least 2 hours to spread (I don't remember exactly how much).. I remember that I went fishing, came back, and he still died.. At least 2 hours have definitely passed..

25.10.2007 13:17, Grigory Grigoryev

"it is very interesting: what is the reason for this behavior of Kossus - it sits alive in a cocoon for a month and a half and does not pupate! Alive - if disturbed! I moisturize, the conditions are normal like! This behavior is very interesting! Maybe someone came across, will tell you about it!"

At Kossus, a caterpillar overwinters JUST LIKE a caterpillar, so don't force it to do this in the fall - it will die. By the way, its wintering in comparison with caterpillars, for example, bears, is usually 70-90 percent successful.

25.10.2007 13:18, Musson max

And I'm still sitting and duplit frown.gifI have, I understand there is no chance, right?

25.10.2007 15:27, Grigory Grigoryev

I think that in the room where the butterfly was hatched, there was a small humidity-the butterfly, after all, is from the Mediterranean.
I also always try to make the butterfly spread its wings, sitting with its paws up, for example, on gauze, covering the cage from above. In this case, under other unfavorable circumstances, the chances are higher.
And yours, I think, will remain so now.

26.10.2007 0:26, Алесей

People!tell me plz neuchu))))
where can I buy pupae for example tropical butterflies and what is necessary for breeding them at home???I really want my own...beautiful....

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