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13.10.2010 12:48, Liparus

It's even strange: in the south of M. O., there's a lot of it, and I have a lot of it near my house, too. In July, it is constantly on umbrella roads. I haven't collected it for a long time.

And we don't have enough!I collected a series of sibe and I won't catch it on purpose anymore.
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13.10.2010 13:14, vasiliy-feoktistov

And we don't have enough!I collected a series of sibe and I won't catch it on purpose anymore.

Arthur, look out for the willows. In my opinion, it should be, because to the south you have confused.gif
That's how he sits with us and is in abundance:

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13.10.2010 13:30, barry

Arthur, look out for the willows. In my opinion, it should be, because to the south you have confused.gif
That's how he sits with us and is in abundance:

We don't have a lot of them. I've also only seen one (and that's Liparus found it).

13.10.2010 13:44, captolabrus

Catch,catch. I don't have a spare pocket. And it's always nice to treat those who didn't catch it. beer.gif

13.10.2010 16:33, Alexandr Zhakov

After a two-week break due to rain and a sharp cold snap, 12.10 in the south of the Zaporozhye region: Zaporozhye region, Zaporozhye district, the village of Privetnoye.
temperature +6, from 19 to 21.
Diloba caeruleocephala a lot,
Dasypolia templi 1
Allophyes oxyacanthae up to 10
Ammoconia caecimacula up to 10
Polymixis latesco up to 10

This post was edited by Djon-13.10.2010 17: 47
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13.10.2010 18:36, Sanangel

Liparus, at my dacha in Khmelnitsky, there were 10-15 musky barbels on each flower, and in the collection of everything - he and she, and another Israeli one, which the university gave me. And you lay out two dozen of the same type without a twinge of conscience. Can we take care of nature, And?
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13.10.2010 18:50, Sanangel

The heat wave in Israel is almost over and the beetles are crawling. There are a lot of ground beetles, blackbirds and dung beetles. What anyone needs, write in PM.
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13.10.2010 22:38, Black Coleopter

Maybe we'll take care of nature, eh?

And again it is, the struggle of good with evil. Or rather, pseudo-protection of nature. While foaming at the mouth, we protect one bug, a dozen have already been suppressed on the path, and another twenty have been pecked by birds... Gee-gee, comrades. On the forum on this topic has already been written more than once.
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14.10.2010 1:11, Sanangel

Liparus, wrote drunk. I'm sorry. But the seed went. The Black Coleopter snorted. Just a musky sawyere is more beautiful than a Karabus impressus. And I don't have any pine gold leaf. Can we switch?
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14.10.2010 1:31, Sanangel

And in general, let's live together!!!
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14.10.2010 13:48, А.Й.Элез

Pride bursts for the native fauna when you read that somewhere on Earth there are people who do not yet have pine zlatka... Someone would have asked me for it...
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14.10.2010 13:56, А.Й.Элез

By the way, the variability of musk is such that hold me, green.
And in Moscow (in the city) I once saw a musk mating, where the male was one and a half times larger than the female, I never saw such a size ratio again.

14.10.2010 16:37, captolabrus

I don't have any pine goldfish, not one. shuffle.gif Accordingly, I ask it from you.

14.10.2010 17:17, А.Й.Элез

Agreed. My material is mostly from the Vladimir region, and not from Moscow (although we also have enough of this stuff). Is Chalcophora mariana a rarity in your area?

14.10.2010 18:54, Sanangel

Will someone change with me or not?

14.10.2010 19:13, А.Й.Элез

If a Liparus colleague responds positively, then that's fine (we started the conversation with him). If he does not have the opportunity, I will find Chalcophora mariana, and the only question is how to transfer it to you. I will only recommend that you continue to throw it in "exchanges-sales", so that we do not litter in "reports" (here I myself am a sinner).

14.10.2010 20:27, captolabrus

Agreed. My material is mostly from the Vladimir region, and not from Moscow (although we also have enough of this stuff). Is Chalcophora mariana a rarity in your area?

These are my trips in the region are rare. lol.gif

14.10.2010 20:28, Vlad Proklov

Pride bursts for the native fauna when you read that somewhere on Earth there are people who do not yet have pine zlatka... Someone would have asked me for it...

I don't understand such pride at all - it's like being proud of an athlete from your own city! What's it got to do with me!? Nothing else to be proud of?

15.10.2010 0:50, Sanangel

A. Y.Elez, write in PM to let me know your email address. I'll send you what you say, and Mariana - I won't die without her. The main thing is that not a single parcel has disappeared from Israel yet.

15.10.2010 23:12, А.Й.Элез

I don't understand such pride at all - it's like being proud of an athlete from your own city! What's it got to do with me!? Nothing else to be proud of?
Everything is simpler: as always, I forgot to put a smiley face. Fixing the error: smile.gif

20.10.2010 22:09, Alexandr Zhakov

The weather also provides rare opportunities to shine effectively.
Zaporozhye region, Zaporozhye district, okr. s. Privetnoye 17.10. +11 from 19 to 22, drove the rain, half an hour to Zaporozhye in the headlights constantly flew butterflies.
The latest species haven't flown out yet.

That's what flew out of the dustpan:
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Diloba caeruleocephala is very numerous at the beginning of fishing, then the number fell

Amphipyra livida pair
Agrochola circellaris one

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Agrochola helvola one

Agrochola litura a lot

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Allophyes oxyacanthae is very plentiful, started flying en masse late

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Ammoconia caecimacula more than 10

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Polymixis latesco - 10

Mythimna vitellina one
Agrotis segetum more than 10

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First results
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21.10.2010 7:38, Сергей-Д

so after all: for us Polymixis latesco, leuconota, trisignata was cited in different sources - does latesco fly or several of them?

21.10.2010 9:58, Alexandr Zhakov

so after all: for us Polymixis latesco, leuconota, trisignata was cited in different sources - does latesco fly or several of them?

A very interesting question, I did not check my own, I firmly believed Klyuchko Z. F.
Let's dig deeper.

21.10.2010 22:55, Liparus

CRIMEA PENINSULA,
Tarhankut cape,
near buhta Kipchak.
Shehovcov A. & Shaporinskiy V. (Shapik)
29-30 Аpril 2010


29.04.2010 at 22.00 I noticed and showed Slavik "UFO", which is changing its Thomas moved across the sky.Slavik asked me to take a picture of what happened - see for yourself, there are still large photos.After the photo shoot, we experienced a dose of adrenaline and terrible pain..weep.gif mad.gif It was something incredible.

picture: crimea_map2.jpgN 45°27`, E 32°32`25.44"

Bugs:
Anthicidae:
Gen. sp.
Carabidae:
Carterus (s. str.) dama, caught only one pair
of Chlaenius (Dinodes) decipiens
Cymindis sp. 1
Cymindis sp. 2
Ophonus sp.
Carabuss of black chvet (Remains)
Curculionidae:
Lixus (Dilixellus) pulverulentus
Chrysomelidae:
Cheilotoma erythrostoma
Colaphus sophiae
Histeridae:
Gen. sp. 2
Scarabaeidae:
Protaetia (Netocia) ungarica
Pentodon idiota
Onthophagus furcatus type, only on the head not 2, but 1 horn
Onthophagus sp. 1

Onthophagus sp. 2 Onthophagus sp. 3
Aphodius sp. 1
Aphodius sp. 3
Rhizotrogus sp. 1
Rhizotrogus sp. 2
Tenebrionidae:
Pimelia (Eurypimelia) subglobosa
Tentyria nomas taurica
Gonocephalum pygmaeum
Blaps tibialis
Pedinus sp. 1

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22.10.2010 9:12, Сергей-Д

A very interesting question, I did not check my own, I firmly believed Klyuchko Z. F.
Let's dig deeper.

Let's dig!
2001-Key-Annotated catalog...: "Mniotype leuconota (Herrich-Schäffer, 1850)" - discarded, since next is
2006-Key-Scoops of Ukraine: "Polymixis latesco Fibiger, 2001 (=leuconota auct. nec. H-S, 1850)"
2008-Key-Scoops of Donetsk region: "Polymixis trisignata (Menetries, 1848): ... it includes butterflies previously defined as Mniotype leuconota (Herrich-Schäffer, 1850)"
2009-The scoops of the North Caucasus for the Rostov region contain a latesco indicating that the previous definitions of trisignata are incorrect. Hooray, we figured it out-latesco. But another fact confuses me. Then, in NE5, the definition is incorrect - on the colored tabs by Fibiger (who described Latesco), a cooked copy is shown. from the Rostov region-trisignata smile.gif.
So think who to believe, what to determine...
PS sorry for offtop.
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22.10.2010 22:22, Shapik

To Arthur's report.
From myself, I want to add, from memory, the time has passed quite a lot.I had to look at the labels.
Of the beetles, I will add only Phytoecia (Helladia) millefolii(Adams, 1817), a couple of crustaceans, and the remains of black carabus.A lot of small things in the sea sediments.
Due to the rather low temperature,especially at night,very few butterflies were observed: Acontia lucida
Napuca ochrearia-there were a lot
of these Carcharodus alceae
Pyrgus armoricanus
Heliothis viriplaca
As for UFOs, I fully confirm Arthur's words.We didn't find it funny at all after the object headed in our direction and disappeared behind the slope of the beam.It is quite difficult to convey all this.Two of them are out on the steppe at night,and they're still sober.

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23.10.2010 0:46, slava penza

To Arthur's report.
From myself, I want to add, from memory, the time has passed quite a lot.I had to look at the labels.
Of the beetles, I will add only Phytoecia (Helladia) millefolii(Adams, 1817), a couple of crustaceans, and the remains of black carabus.A lot of small things in the sea sediments.
Due to the rather low temperature,especially at night,very few butterflies were observed: Acontia lucida
Napuca ochrearia-there were a lot
of these Carcharodus alceae
Pyrgus armoricanus
Heliothis viriplaca
As for UFOs, I fully confirm Arthur's words.We didn't find it funny at all after the object headed in our direction and disappeared behind the slope of the beam.It is quite difficult to convey all this.Two of them are out on the steppe at night,and they're still sober.

and you can describe UFOs in more detail, I'm not a ufologist, just curious, everything is unknown)))

23.10.2010 22:15, Bad Den

Two of them are out on the steppe at night,and they're still sober.

This was your biggest mistake smile.gif))
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23.10.2010 23:15, slava penza

This was your biggest mistake smile.gif))

and so you look and UFO pilots would get drunkbeer.gif))))) beer.gif

24.10.2010 17:39, Alexandr Zhakov

Let's dig!
2001-Key-Annotated catalog...: "Mniotype leuconota (Herrich-Schäffer, 1850)" - discarded, since next is
2006-Key-Scoops of Ukraine: "Polymixis latesco Fibiger, 2001 (=leuconota auct. nec. H-S, 1850)"
2008-Key-Scoops of Donetsk region: "Polymixis trisignata (Menetries, 1848): ... it includes butterflies previously defined as Mniotype leuconota (Herrich-Schäffer, 1850)"
2009-The scoops of the North Caucasus for the Rostov region contain a latesco indicating that the previous definitions of trisignata are incorrect. Hooray, we figured it out-latesco. But another fact confuses me. Then, in NE5, the definition is incorrect - on the colored tabs by Fibiger (who described Latesco), a cooked copy is shown. from the Rostov region-trisignata smile.gif.
So think about who to believe, what to determine...
PS sorry for the offtop.

Information on NE5,
in addition to pictures, it shows the distribution in Europe
picture: latesco_r.jpg
geneticists seem to differ, but not much.
latesco.jpg
cooked it confused.gif
the main feature of trisignata is the third tooth on the cuculus, absent, the edagus is curved, like in latesco. a number of other similar traits can be attributed to one or another species, but in general, the scales significantly outweigh the latesco. Polymixis latesco. (I don't post photos, it doesn't work out sharply)
But the butterfly expression in NE5 in latesco has gray lower wings, and in trisignata - white, in our white. And there's also Rostov-on-Don in Ukraine confused.gif
We will trust our compatriots Klyuchko, Poltavsky, and Matov.

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24.10.2010 17:58, barko

Information on NE5,
in addition to the pictures, it shows the distribution in Europe...
Can I see a photo of my genitals?
--"
This conversation won't be long. Therefore, I ask the moderator to move this Polymixis discussion to the Xyleninae topic. http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=362944, otherwise we will take all the reports smile.gif

24.10.2010 18:43, Alexandr Zhakov

Can I see a photo of my genitals?
--"
This conversation won't be long. Therefore, I ask the moderator to move this Polymixis discussion to the Xyleninae topic. http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=362944 Otherwise, we'll take up all the reports smile.gif


You can, posted in http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=362944,

25.10.2010 9:18, svm2

Well, Ukraine is different from Ukraine, it is Zhakov near Zaporozhye who has miracles happening this year, and what I have not yet seen in my eyes is more modest here near Kiev. Yesterday we went for a couple of hours to Bukryn, 140 km to the south-east, a little windy, at 8-30, when we left +7. Years began somewhere in 6-30, about 8 as cut off, only epirites arrived.
The result is as follows: a dozen and a half poplar cocoonworms
of Scoops-D. caeruleocephala, Agrochola circellaris & macilenta, E. transversa, Conistra vaccinii, rubiginasa,rubiginea &erythrocephala, Litophane ornitopus & furcifera, A. oxycanthae, P. saucia/
Moths are only dilutates and citrates, winter ones have not yet flown out.
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25.10.2010 16:52, EvgenD

here is my belated report on the person caught on the night of September 13-14 of this year in the Ushachsky district of the Vitebsk region (the shore of Lake Chervyatskoye, half a kilometer from the village of the same name). The photo of the biotope is from August of last year, but it has not changed at all during this time. The night was unusually warm, as the week before it was barely above freezing at night. Here it was about +10. The sky was completely overcast, with occasional drizzles. I was most pleased with Agrochola litura - as far as I know, it used to be caught in our region no further north than Minsk, although what is 170 km? Also, about a dozen Sedina buettneri arrived-the benefit of reed thickets nearby, before this species caught no more than 1-2 specimens at a time. There was also one Mythimna straminea piece. Unfortunately, neither Ammoconia caecimacula, nor Staurophora celsia, nor Phlogophora methiculosa were seen in our northern regions that night. The rest is more common types.

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25.10.2010 17:49, Victor Titov

here is my belated report on the person caught on the night of September 13-14 of this year in the Ushachsky district of the Vitebsk region (the shore of Lake Chervyatskoye, half a kilometer from the village of the same name).

Wow, and zlatka (Dicerca) arrived (in the center of the third photo)?

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25.10.2010 17:59, Sergey Didenko

If zlatka flew to the light, then this is something with something. Never to me zlatki on light did not arrive.

25.10.2010 18:03, vasiliy-feoktistov

Yes, and in mid-September (maybe accidentally got on the mattress)?

27.10.2010 3:21, Egorus

Last night. Three hours outside the city.
(Ukr.Zapor.obl. Melit.district)
One hour - drizzly rain, the second hour-fog, the third hour-clear.
Not bad flying fresh U. hirta

In the last photo - Muthimna unipuncta
If I'm not mistaken, it's super, as for our area.

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27.10.2010 18:24, EvgenD

I'm sorry, the goldfish was caught in the afternoon, on the trunk of a horse chestnut tree, but around the same time, which is interesting. Not in the light and in another biotope! I just forgot about it when I posted the photo.
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27.10.2010 19:16, okoem


In the last photo - Muthimna unipuncta
If I'm not mistaken, it's super, as for our area.

IMHO, a typical unipoint. It flies to Feodosia every autumn.
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