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15.05.2012 1:28, barry

13.05.2012, Gusinaya Polyana (epilogue).

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15.05.2012 20:54, barry

I'm glad you reminded me about the snakes, but I almost forgot. smile.gif Tell me what kind of snakes... Crimea.
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15.05.2012 21:02, Геннадий Шембергер

Pallasov poloz.(Elaphe sauromates)

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15.05.2012 22:16, barry

Yes, they got it already, worse than market women... Where do I get so many exotic beetles to dilute this chatter, I don't have time to process photos anyway ... smile.gif
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15.05.2012 22:33, Hierophis

Yes, they got it already, worse than market women... Where do I collect so many exotic beetles to dilute this chatter, I don't have time to process photos anyway... smile.gif


Where?? beetles??
Here!!! ))))))))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWiK7qpQKhs

15.05.2012 22:39, Hierophis

Well, in general, if someone does not like it-the forest is there! --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuXY4p5-Hw

And the swamp too, by the way wink.gif

16.05.2012 21:03, Liparus

I'm glad you reminded me about the snakes, but I almost forgot. smile.gif Tell me what kind of snakes... Crimea.

I forgot to tell you, I need snakes too. And here's what crawled away:
http://vitawater.ru/terra/sauria/anguidae/angu-fr.shtml

This post was edited by Liparus - 05/16/2012 21: 12

16.05.2012 21:16, barry

I forgot to tell you, I need snakes too.

Read on the Internet how to catch them. And buy yourself a special execution stick with pruning shears at the end. In extreme cases, you can fasten the pliers with electrical tape for one handle, and tie a rope to the other-and you can catch.

16.05.2012 21:31, Liparus

Read on the Internet how to catch them. And buy yourself a special execution stick with pruning shears at the end. In extreme cases, you can fasten the pliers with electrical tape for one handle, and tie a rope to the other-and you can catch.

Yes. Yes. And you can also grow them...

16.05.2012 21:45, Гена

I gave up the idea of finding Saturnia spini, it's too ephemeral, but Hebe doesn't give me any peace of mind, at least one specimen was found somewhere in the south of the region about 10 years ago. Here I am again on the Dniester, already 3 points since the beginning of May, gradually moving from west to east.
Attempt number one - May 12, the weather forecast is not comforting-calm in the evening, and at night the wind is up to 10 m / s, I take a risk, I eat, I turned on the lamp at 21.15, after a slight breeze, the screen sagged, the beginning of summer is very encouraging: tremulifolia, two more females of Spatalia argentina, Hyles euphorbiae - a new species for me. At 22.30, a sharp gust of wind breaks the screen, and the wind no longer stops, as it was in the forecast, which is interesting, the butterflies stopped flying 20-30 seconds before the wind blew. I understand that there are no further prospects, I turn down, the next day the temperature fell below 10 degrees.
Attempt number two - on May 15, after sitting out the cold snap, I look out for an almost perfect night according to the forecast-warm, windless, clouds, light rain is possible. Again I go to the same place, the feeling of dissatisfaction from the last time did not leave me. The beginning of summer is not as stormy as last time, although the forecast was fully justified and there is even a slight drizzle. Again, one male tremulifolia, proserpina, euphorbiae begin to fly from 10 o'clock, later they are diluted with galii, a torn male Saturnia puri, closer to midnight argentina flew, at the end-then males, from bears so far only isolated lubricipeda and fuliginosa. I aim to sit until the morning, I want geb smile.gifSuddenly at 00.30 a strong wind rises, and the screen inflates well, well, what bad luck, I stand holding the screen, naturally the years have stopped, I decided to wait it out, I take off the sheet, I go to the car, by 2 o'clock the wind subsides but not completely, I pull the screen again, somewhere in in the folds of the fabric I find a chic Chelis maculosa, 10 minutes later another one arrives, they flew until 3 o'clock, after them sannio went, the active flight lasted until dawn, I shone until 5 in the morning, but there is no hebe... we will search smile.gifIn the grass found one Dyscia conspersaria, like in Ukraine only from the Crimea is known?

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16.05.2012 22:50, Alexandr Zhakov

I gave up the idea of finding Saturnia spini, it's too ephemeral, but Hebe doesn't give me any peace of mind, at least one specimen was found somewhere in the south of the region about 10 years ago. Here I am again on the Dniester, already 3 points since the beginning of May, gradually moving from west to east.
Attempt number one - May 12, the weather forecast is not comforting-calm in the evening, and at night the wind is up to 10 m / s, I take a risk, I eat, I turned on the lamp at 21.15, after a slight breeze, the screen sagged, the beginning of summer is very encouraging: tremulifolia, two more females of Spatalia argentina, Hyles euphorbiae - a new species for me. At 22.30, a sharp gust of wind breaks the screen, and the wind no longer stops, as it was in the forecast, which is interesting, the butterflies stopped flying 20-30 seconds before the wind blew. I understand that there are no further prospects, I turn down, the next day the temperature fell below 10 degrees.
Attempt number two - on May 15, after sitting out the cold snap, I look out for an almost perfect night according to the forecast-warm, windless, clouds, light rain is possible. Again I go to the same place, the feeling of dissatisfaction from the last time did not leave me. The beginning of summer is not as stormy as last time, although the forecast was fully justified and there is even a slight drizzle. Again, one male tremulifolia, proserpina, euphorbiae begin to fly from 10 o'clock, later they are diluted with galii, a torn male Saturnia puri, closer to midnight argentina flew, at the end-then males, from bears so far only isolated lubricipeda and fuliginosa. I aim to sit until the morning, I want geb smile.gifSuddenly at 00.30 a strong wind rises, and the screen inflates well, well, what bad luck, I stand holding the screen, naturally the years have stopped, I decided to wait it out, I take off the sheet, I go to the car, by 2 o'clock the wind subsides but not completely, I pull the screen again, somewhere in in the folds of the fabric I find a chic Chelis maculosa, 10 minutes later another one arrives, they flew until 3 o'clock, after them sannio went, the active flight lasted until dawn, I shone until 5 in the morning, but there is no hebe... we will search smile.gifIn the grass found one Dyscia conspersaria, like in Ukraine only from the Crimea is known?

Great!
If there is a strong wind, it is not necessary to stop fishing, you can remove the screen and put it on the ground.
Is there a complete certainty that this is Dyscia conspersaria? A, not Dyscia innocentaria, e.g.

16.05.2012 22:54, Hierophis

Read on the Internet how to catch them. And buy yourself a special execution stick with pruning shears at the end. In extreme cases, you can fasten the pliers with electrical tape for one handle, and tie a rope to the other-and you can catch.

Kapets any, here is this you wet smile.gif

16.05.2012 23:12, Гена

  Great!
If there is a strong wind, it is not necessary to stop fishing, you can remove the screen and put it on the ground.
Is there a complete certainty that this is Dyscia conspersaria? Oh, not Dyscia innocentaria, for example.

Thanks! On the first night, based on the forecast, the wind was unlikely to subside, and there was a sharp cold snap, so I did not wait, and the second time I did just that, I put the cloth on the ground, and did not turn off the lamp. As for Dyscia, of course, there is no confidence, after rhopalocera I am new here, I define here http://www.lepidoptera.pl, bribed by the fact that for innocentaria there are specified dates of summer much later.
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16.05.2012 23:35, Kharkovbut

I forgot to tell you, I need snakes too.
I wonder why? Will you play Dr. Grimsby Roylott? lol.gif

16.05.2012 23:37, Alexandr Zhakov

I was bribed by the fact that for innocentaria the dates of summer are indicated there much later.

This year, the timing is tight. smile.gif
It would be interesting to see a larger photo,
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in any case, a very interesting find.

This post was edited by Djon - 05/16/2012 23: 41

17.05.2012 8:38, svm2

Thanks! On the first night, based on the forecast, the wind was unlikely to subside, and there was a sharp cold snap, so I did not wait, and the second time I did just that, I put the cloth on the ground, and did not turn off the lamp. As for Dyscia, of course, there is no confidence, after rhopalocera I am new here, I define here http://www.lepidoptera.pl, bribed by the fact that for innocentaria there are specified dates of summer much later.


innocentaria is already flying in the Crimea in May (Savchuk's website), conspersaria has so far been recorded only in the mountains of the Crimea(I. Kostyuk's inf.), and Yu caught the first one last year in those parts.Geryak, so it's very likely that Djon is right-you have the first one.
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17.05.2012 11:28, мяссура

17.05.2012 13:55, Гена

This year, the timing is tight. smile.gif
It would be interesting to see a larger photo,
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in any case, a very interesting find.


although it is already clear that this is rather innocentaria, but still here is a photo

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17.05.2012 13:57, Гена

innocentaria is already flying in the Crimea in May (Savchuk's website), conspersaria has so far been recorded only in the mountains of the Crimea(I. Kostyuk's inf.), and Yu caught the first one last year in those parts.Geryak, so it's very likely that Djon is right-you have the first one.


And Yuri accidentally gebu in" those parts " did not catch? smile.gif

17.05.2012 14:03, Alexandr Zhakov

And Yuri accidentally gebu in" those parts " did not catch? smile.gif

Geryak was going to look at your report today, and he'll answer it at the same time.
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17.05.2012 14:07, Alexandr Zhakov

Everything is just great, I would like to join your expedition, but it didn't work out. smile.gif

Myasnikov, I'm glad you're here. yes.gif
But you never got any further smile.gifthan Balchanskaya

17.05.2012 15:49, barko

  Great!
If there is a strong wind, it is not necessary to stop fishing, you can remove the screen and put it on the ground.
Is there a complete certainty that this is Dyscia conspersaria? Oh, not Dyscia innocentaria, for example.
although it is already clear that this is rather innocentaria, but still here is a photo
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This is still conspersaria.
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17.05.2012 16:01, Pleco

I'm glad you reminded me about the snakes, but I almost forgot. smile.gif Tell me what kind of snakes... Crimea.


Very rare species-four-striped or Sarmatian skids

17.05.2012 16:42, barry

Very rare species-four-striped or Sarmatian skids

You probably noticed that they are on the grid. It is literally a couple of meters from the house, just on the aisle. I stopped by to visit my father - and here this is happening... Of course, he is no longer young, the garden is overgrown beyond recognition, he does not have time to follow everything - weeds, bushes, it will soon be almost like in the forest, so they divorced... My father also said that he had green and black snakes of some kind, maybe it was just the color variability. In general, I read that they can be aggressive and can rush and bite, although they are not poisonous. At the moment (as in the photos), they did not pay any attention to the people hanging out near them, no reaction, just carelessly went about their business. I'm already afraid to walk in the garden...

17.05.2012 17:08, Pleco

Maybe, but really cool! I would have come for a photo shoot smile.gif

Somewhere in the Leninsky district?

And they do not pose a danger, they can rush if they tease, but they are not poisonous...

17.05.2012 17:29, svm2

This is still conspersaria.

If you're right, this is an even more interesting find, but I still think it's more likely to be an innocentarium. We will ask the respected Gena to straighten the butterfly and display it, we will consult with I. Kostyuk, he analyzed the distribution of this genus in Ukraine for import specialists . So far the conspiracy is known only from Krym
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17.05.2012 17:30, barry


Somewhere in the Leninsky district?
And they do not pose a danger, they can rush if they tease, but they are not poisonous...

Well, when I saw almost nothing, I didn't know what it was, who knows what they had in mind. I took pictures from two meters away, although there the passage is narrow, pressing against the other side I had to pass somewhere in one and a half meters.
Bakhchisarai district, Putilovka village. I'm really in Kharkiv. And not the fact that they will crawl openly somewhere out there on order. Although I suspect that they divorced in an old barn. It stands on a slope, there is just a good niche under the floor, the boards are leaky in places...
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17.05.2012 17:35, Гена

17.05.2012 18:10, barko

although it is already clear that this is rather innocentaria, but still here is a photo
I suggest you go to the topic of Ennominae. Please move the photo there.

17.05.2012 18:24, barko

If you're right, this is an even more interesting find, but I still think it's more likely to be an innocentarium. We will ask the respected Gena to straighten the butterfly and display it, we will consult with I. Kostyuk, he analyzed the distribution of this genus in Ukraine for import specialists . So far, the conspiracy is known only from the Crimea
Now I'm not so sure.

17.05.2012 19:18, barry

08.05.2012. Crimea, Rich Gorge.
Dung beetles Sisyphus schaefferi boschniaki Fischer, 1823
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17.05.2012 19:39, barry

And a panoramic view of the mountains around the Rich Gorge.
http://youtu.be/6Oyh5z5t3i4
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17.05.2012 20:03, Yu.GER

And Yuri accidentally gebu in" those parts " did not catch? smile.gif

I, in the Kamenets Transdniestria (near the villages of Kitaygorod and Subich), caught only in the summer-in mid-June. It was too late for Hebe's summer. But judging by the biotopes, it should be there.
I think it's too late to catch her now. In the south and east of Ukraine, I saw hebes in late April and early May, but only males that flew in the second half of the night, closer to dawn.
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17.05.2012 20:19, Гена

I, in the Kamenets Transdniestria (near the villages of Kitaygorod and Subich), caught only in the summer-in mid-June. It was too late for Hebe's summer. But judging by the biotopes, it should be there.
I think it's too late to catch her now. In the south and east of Ukraine, I saw hebes in late April and early May, but only males that flew in the second half of the night, closer to dawn.


This year, in Kitaygorod (in the canyon), the sun shone on May 2, though only until 12 o'clock, near Subich on May 6 (I posted the report), it shone until dawn, to no avail...

18.05.2012 1:59, barry

15.04.2012. Kharkiv region, near the village of Gusinaya Polyana.
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18.05.2012 21:01, Hierophis

And we sednya again grasshoppers fishing went smile.gif

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18.05.2012 21:02, Hierophis

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18.05.2012 21:40, captolabrus

Looking at the excellent reports, it remains only to get drunk in the trash from the intolerance of being, and quietly collapse into an infinite point of the inner microcosm. beer.gif

18.05.2012 22:00, vasiliy-feoktistov

Looking at the excellent reports, it remains only to get drunk in the trash from the intolerance of being, and quietly collapse into an infinite point of the inner microcosm. beer.gif

Don't worry: everything is still ahead smile.gifof you . I also didn't expect this: I find something that I haven't seen in more than 25 years of trampling through the forests of the Moscow region. Every year there are always some surprises beer.gif.
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