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Basil, again we are going in a circle, some 99.9% - 50 to 50, once again read the last post of Yuri is kind of twins, but for some small differences, the author of his own kind is not recognized. :)) And he wants to believe. Now, if O. elegans train different from relegata, then we could talk about a higher percentage :)))
Basil, I bring the apologies that you yap nerves, but concerns please quietly to the cavils, and he finds fault please, if you see someone else's mistakes. We all only benefit from this, the site will win. Tougher requirements and quality will grow in all. :))
Very sorry, Basil, do not you see, the dispute was correct, the actions taken to identify the species of the best. Everybody is happy, all thanks. :) That would be so for other species, without haste and thoroughly. I understand that a utopia, but really want :)
I would not stand so boldly (which I from harm contradict :))) view from the kind where two European species, featuring many really can not. Do not like the other three ET on Japanese site where the images are not so much.I agree with Irina that fits very well in the form relegata, but behind elegans, obviously someone's double, just before the end of the twentieth century was incognito :) ...
I will not argue, but they are so varied in color, it seems to me, is from the evil one :))) Females are very dark, the photos from Noctua differentiate by sex only "vskidku" :))) The Germans do not risk :))) http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Noctua_Interposita
:))) But when typed a few dozen, and they will form the habit of different groups, and will be of the same type of habitat, and then all preparations will be certain types of, then we can not accurately put Railway Amphipoea species. :))) Without boiling.
Acleris emargana may be necessary to be very careful, very volatile, or Acleris caerulescens such as the Far East as desirable to know who is usual who found the literature. as well as for those images that are in the net, it is very similar to A. issikii. :)))
I can not distinguish between these two types of visual, here the words of the authors of photos, they have seen them live without these two types of cooking only inaccurate. :)))
I basically do not mind waiting, the question is how much? but the picture is already a matter of definition. Although all make mistakes, and Svyatoslav including :))
From the photographs Amphipoea not determined. By female genitalia, these two species differ ok :)))
Vasily find unfolded katokalu in uncertain and define it, is one thing and find inaccurately defined and to redefine completely different, what do you see that this is not the kind that is signed, or delete the author's vague, or write "misdiagnosis" my guess is something imprecise definition, this is now, whether puerpera,whether orientalis, which many consider synonymous. and when "like" - they ...
Basil, "vskidku" it is not necessary to determine a mistake to replace the other :)). Catocala mainly differ normal, especially in the expanded state, except for a few doubles> puerpera-orientalis, elocata-deducta, but doubles independence is being questioned. :)))