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Peter, all kind of came to a consensus, and you can (should) just delete all comments here and thus lead page in order :)
Irina yesterday brought him out of the blue at the beginning of this ugliness. That's about kind of have to split up because of different classifications layatsya ... And then: very sick of how I behaved :(
Alexander, I agree it is the best solution. Here, in the genus Bastilla is necessary so as to move from Dysgonia and said second kind of maturata, all dock and not to be confused anymore. Well, then, respectively, all of these discussions should be cleaned.
Well, where shall I go from here :) It's just nerves play tricks on all recently dissolved concoctions (and not only from her). Very poor become: old probably ... :( After the site is already almost five years and I already can not live without it :)
Alexander, let me ask, what's the incorrect something expressed? Sorry, but every person has the right to doubt, even if it is determined matte, yes, I and Sergei just agreed, using other sources, that the definition of a wrong it is not incorrect. In the end, any determination not believe the axiom, and even the definition of haze.And to clarify the question is removed. Tolerance? I do not like ...
This must be put somewhere such as Yandex gallery, then right-click to select a team to open the image, copy the link to the image. Then click here to see prices corresponding button and paste the link in the opened window. It is desirable to make the size of no more than 800x600
Now the question is removed. It is strange that they are not in the group (the question was, would not). For a clarification thanks. Lighting, camera angle or something did not get.
Sergey, I will explain tomorrow if nobody overtake. For now, just work and write with your phone. Yes, and is not available in connection with the work.
Yes, Alexander, is now to the point: in the blue is, as Bastilla two types of primarily tropical genus Dysdonia (there Bastilla even synonyms I could not see from the fact that he could now with the bodies. Browse (and may not see). From the kind of Bastilla getting rid necessary. We will not all the same Dysgonia customized by blue. This is the theater of the absurd will .....
Corrected data. Not identified → Arctornis alba / Confidently identified / Irina Nikulina.
So move it to confidently identified then if no opinions/objections.
Finder site sechas about to be looking for (especially dialed the wrong kind, that he drove to the genus Bastilla) This should not be, and this must be doing something from that and this whole mess:
Let him be all :) The main thing that has not been on the site of 2 genera of the same species. A sleep I still have not given :(
Ugh, links which have turned out. Better then http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/butmoth/ search for family and there are two. The same can not believe how there can be two kinds with one and the same species?
By the way, "about Europe." There is all kind of Bastilla still NOCTUOIDEA: NOCTUIDAE: CATOCALINAE: ...
That crossed. Alexander, too, no offense to repeat: this is not 2008, to accept this directory as an axiom.
Added On Sinev (not sleep): For the classification of the directory can not be used (in 2008 after all, and classifiers "go ahead by leaps and bounds"). You can already use mainly on geographical distribution of species as the species names still rarely change. This is again due to personal observations.Maybe not even the mistakes, but simply is irrelevant in this publication.
A catalog of Sinev my personal opinion is composed ambiguous (as already mentioned here several times) :)
So there isDysgonia maturata
Peter, I propose to remove this kind of. Forms of it are doubles species Dysgonia, which is a significant number of species are already on the site.
And this kind is in the database as aDysgonia fulvotaeniaturns out, really need to clean up the whole race.
Peter condemns this kind. Available in base kinds Bastilla apparently beguiled me in the morning. And the view is already in the race Dysgonia. It is necessary at all to deal with them in my opinion.
Corrected data. Bastilla fulvotaenia → Dysgonia fulvotaenia.
Corrected data. Not identified → Dysgonia fulvotaenia / Confidently identified / Irina Nikulina.
P.S. Although it is possible and accurate: options do not.
Just today, the formBastilla fulvotaeniamade to a transfer of neoprene. Is it vary? But really there is no such option. Putting in inaccurate?
Sadly don't know any website on Russian Far East :( Or aren't there entomologists not to seek Japanese websites instead.... Most probable is A. alba as I see : http://www.sgzb.net/onews.asp?id=508 Any opinions more? So far won't move it anywhere.
Here, in "amerikosovsky" pictures you can see: http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Plusia-putnami
Yes, let him lie down. Although for me so I putnami it is.
A year later noticed :) Or Dysgonia sp. about the kind of thoughts would ......
By JW I give in and apologize that butted, but it reminds me more aceris (if intermedia its subspecies) or auricoma: both if you believe the notorious Sinev should be there.
I'm in the blue 2008 very pazocharovyvayus lately: http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/lepindex/search/detail.dsml?TaxonNo=261372
Alexander, as well as another on the specimen? Generally it in neoprene. remove what?
Why did not she? Reasons?
And I see no reason in this whole thing :) Alexander, download what I am guided: http://rghost.ru/52455754 Photography is really very vague. And here you can not say no for that and not for another :).
Hint: same Acronicta sp.
Corrected data. Not identified → Heliothis maritima / Confidently identified / Irina Nikulina.
Corrected data. Not identified → Acronicta cuspis / Confidently identified / Irina Nikulina.
However, Cho is I cuspis, of course: http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Acronicta_Cuspis I bear :)
Irina, you should not use the generic name Triaena (it's the Japanese and they write all characters) :) validity Acronicta. Regarding intermedia: she was like as a subspecies Acronicta aceris: http://oopt.aari.ru/bio/64012 I will raise up cuspis, but we must wait and see what the people had to say .... :)
In another candidacy: toAcronicta catocaloidait looks like, and if it were to be seen rear wings just a little ........... Carbonaria disappears immediately if the focus on its image on jpmoth Where to endure? ???
I thought onAcronicta rumicis, but she (in this version) on the inner edge of the front wings are almost always white specks are present. Ugh, you no thought can not express. The link is necessary to come, that I have laid out: here it, the site is complete.
Yuri, there you have full species Sinev. There seems to dig for subfamily Acronictinae. Was it were closer to me: one on megacephala set-to ........ Here it is lack of information affects "guesswork" ........
Peter, and on beetles proektiki can stir up? We are here with Alexei conceive about the site of Cerambycidae :) joke, of course, the butterflies are not having a relationship. And that really is the best site for the region Alexander Boldyrev is Sungaya. Just now he is a "people" has moved down to the other paid hosting because of the sale by Yandex "people," "yukoz" :)
It's sad that there are enthusiasts ... For example, in the Moscow region. Alexander Boldyrev have a website (one of the authors here) growing on enthusiasm: http://insectamo.ru/ I consider it the best site in the region and he is always helping on a photo of the beetles. Sadly ..... I swear.
So as to attach a photo where the habitat was caught a butterfly, made in the same day. This forest road passing near the seed orchards, located near the station "Nerskaya River" LMC.This plantation in the narrow circles of Moscow entomologists called "Mirmidonyatnik" or "Mirmidonopitomnik" thanks abundance in those parts zheltushkiColias myrmidone(her own and then went there)
Well, that's in the expanded form it is in the group. Only hands reached :) By the way: since Jacob had not seen even once, although there seems like it should be where the run hither.
And add a reference to help that kind of most, that neither is valid: http://www.faunaeur.org/full_results.php?id=449413
Yes, it's not there: Now in blue looked. But this is precisely one of Acronicta, check. By the way: this butterfly that I have previously incorrectly called simply Acronicta megacephala ([Denis & Schiffermtiller], 1775) And in the race Subacronicta site here's the link: http: // lepidoptera.ru / taxonomy / 1353 Ah, come from the Far East to your entomologists, but did at least have one ...
Which one is better? This one or http://lepidoptera.pro/gallery/26872 ? Seems double only differently framed.
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