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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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15.06.2008 16:33, Zhuk

hawk moth - tityus
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15.06.2008 21:11, mikee

hawk moth - tityus

Yeah. Ilya U, these species are easily distinguished: in tityus on the forewings, the median cell is NOT divided by a vein, and in fuciformis it is divided. The photo clearly shows the absence of a vein. With all this, fuciformis is much rarer in our region, but I came across it in Pavlovsk osad.
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15.06.2008 21:42, mikee

I ask you to help me identify some of the different sawyers (the rest are in the "Fishing Reports").
1. Someone from the Notodontidae? (P1000301)
2. some kind of moth... Opisthograptis luteolata? (P1000315)
3. Spilosoma lubricipedum or ? (P1000216)
4. ? (Р1000221)
5. two hawk moth. On the left is a typical Deilephila porcellus, and on the right? A color variation of his own (the color is pure olive without red even from the underside)? (P1000238)

15.06.2008 22:00, Zhuk

I ask you to help me identify some of the different sawyers (the rest are in the "Fishing Reports").

1-Pygaera timon
2-Opisthograptis luteolata
3-Spilosoma lubricipedum
4-Furcula bicuspis like
5-Probably just such a variation
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15.06.2008 22:02, Grigory Grigoryev

1. Someone from the Notodontidae? (P1000301) - Pygaera timon
3. Spilosoma lubricipedum or ? (P1000216) - I think so
4. ? (Р1000221) - Furcula bicuspis
5. two hawkmoth trees. On the left is a typical Deilephila porcellus, and on the right? A color variation of his own (the color is pure olive without red even from the underside)? (P1000238) - if from the Moscow region, then the cvr variation

15.06.2008 22:21, mikee

1. Someone from the Notodontidae? (P1000301) - Pygaera timon
3. Spilosoma lubricipedum or ? (P1000216) - I think so
4. ? (Р1000221) - Furcula bicuspis
5. two hawkmoth trees. On the left is a typical Deilephila porcellus, and on the right? A color variation of his own (the color is pure olive without red even from the underside)? (P1000238) - if from the Moscow region, then the cvr variation

Thank you. The region is Ryazan, which, apparently, is not essential. And how is this color variation indicated on the label?

15.06.2008 22:49, REDBOOK

Steppe zone of the Chelyabinsk region, 1-14. 07.
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16.06.2008 0:16, RippeR

cajarc:
"if you are from the Moscow region, then the cvu variation "
and if not??? Maybe he got knocked up by accident? or an aberrant?

REDBOOK:
the last one is Melitaea cinxia

Ilya U:
shmelevidko is cool! How was she caught?
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16.06.2008 8:40, Ilia Ustiantcev

I caught it with a net on some plant, probably tar.

16.06.2008 13:03, Grigory Grigoryev

"cajarc:
" if from the Moscow region, then the cvu variation "
and if not??? Maybe he got knocked up by accident? or an aberrant?"

Described was such a thing as Deilephila porcellus var. suellus Staudinger, 1878
Very similar to Deilephila suellus-Wed Asia and Transcaucasia (so I asked where the butterfly came from)

Pictures:
picture: D_porcellus_var_suellus.jpg
D_porcellus_var_suellus.jpg — (35.07к)

16.06.2008 13:34, Grigory Grigoryev

Adding to the above:
here is a translation from the site Sphingidae of the Western Palaearctic regarding the status of porcellus and suellus species:

The status of D. porcellus and all its forms (including 'subsp'. suellus) presents some taxonomic problems. There are many descriptions, some, especially suellus, as valid (sub) varieties; however, almost all are definitely forms of D. porcellus (see also Kernbach, 1958; Ebert, 1976; de Freina, 1979). 'Subsp.' porcellus and suellus have since merged again and are now acquiring features of a different species in Turkey, northern Iran, and the Tien Shan. Further evidence of the undetermined status of 'subsp.' suellus is provided by temperature experiments with' subsp. 'porcellus: at high temperatures, which are accessed when developing pupae of' subsp. 'porcellus, adults can be obtained that are almost identical in appearance to' subsp. ' suellus. There is also no difference between male genitalia and the early stages of ' subsp. 'porcellus and 'subsp. 'suellus (de Freina, 1979).
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16.06.2008 17:20, Alexander Zarodov

I'm not good at mother-of-pearl/checkers, so I'm puzzled by the definition. As far as I understand, this is someone from M. didyma or M. trivia.
They were shot in Greece at the end of May. The undergarments are worse, but I can show you something on 1 and 3, if necessary.
I think 1 is didyma, 2,3,4 is trivia.

1. picture: lep01.jpg

2. picture: lep02.jpg

3. picture: lep03.jpg

4. picture: lep04.jpg

Thank you in advance!

This post was edited by Double A-06/16/2008 17: 36

16.06.2008 19:07, PG18

The first one is more like Didyma, the others are more like trivia. But I can't say for sure. Need ispod.
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16.06.2008 19:28, Nyctim

The first one is more like Didyma, the others are more like trivia. But I can't say for sure. I need an undergarment.

I also think that 2.3.4 is trivia, but the first one needs to look under the hood, maybe it's not didyma but a subspecies of trivia ignasiti.
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16.06.2008 19:50, okoem

Caterpillar(poplar or aspen):
Golubyanka. Undergarments without red spots, very small. It seems to me either semiargus, which explains the blue color, or minimus, which explains the size with Idaea seriata. Still, who? If argiades happens to be without red spots on his underparts, perhaps he is?

Golubyanka is neither semiargus nor minimus. It has a tail on the back wing, which means it is Everes sp.
Argiades does not exist without orange holes. There are alcetas and decoloratus. I think that you have decoloratus.

slipknofill, Ilya U - There is a separate topic for identifying caterpillars. It's strange that you don't know that.

This post was edited by okoem - 06/16/2008 19: 55
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16.06.2008 20:45, Alexander Zarodov

PG18, Nyctim

Here, under the first butterfly. It turns out like didyma.

A subspecies of trivia ignasiti, according to Tolman, is found in the Iberian Peninsula, and in Greece - nominative.

In short, I agree with your definition smile.gif

picture: lep05.jpg

16.06.2008 20:48, PG18

..maybe it's not didyma, but a subspecies of trivia ignasiti.

Race Melitaea trivia ignasita de Sagarra, 1926 described from Portugal smile.gif

16.06.2008 20:51, PG18

  PG18, Nyctim
Here, under the first butterfly. It turns out like didyma.

Her! No doubt smile.gif

16.06.2008 21:23, Nyctim

Yes, Didyma.

16.06.2008 22:58, AntSkr

What nieces? MO, male and female.
picture: DSC01418.JPG
most likely Synanthedon sp., but there are a lot of species in the MO...

16.06.2008 23:39, mikee

Adding to the above:
here is a translation from the site Sphingidae of the Western Palaearctic regarding the status of porcellus and suellus species:

The status of D. porcellus and all its forms (including 'subsp'. suellus) presents some taxonomic problems. There are many descriptions, some, especially suellus, as valid (sub) varieties; however, almost all are definitely forms of D. porcellus (see also Kernbach, 1958; Ebert, 1976; de Freina, 1979). 'Subsp.' porcellus and suellus have since merged again and are now acquiring features of a different species in Turkey, northern Iran, and the Tien Shan. Further evidence of the undetermined status of 'subsp.' suellus is provided by temperature experiments with' subsp. 'porcellus: at high temperatures, which are accessed when developing pupae of' subsp. 'porcellus, adults can be obtained that are almost identical in appearance to' subsp. ' suellus. There is also no difference between male genitalia and the early stages of ' subsp. 'porcellus and 'subsp. 'suellus (de Freina, 1979).

Thanks! Here is a comparative photo of the two extreme options. When they are dry, I will post the straightened ones, if the public wishes.
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16.06.2008 23:44, Alexander Zarodov

Two new moths from Greece. Did you identify it correctly? smile.gif

1. Orthostixis cribraria

picture: pyad_crib1.jpg

2. Rhodostrophia ?pudorata

picture: pyad_pudo1.jpg
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17.06.2008 9:38, Zalmox

Two new moths from Greece. Did you identify it correctly? smile.gif
1. Orthostixis cribraria
2. Rhodostrophia ?pudorata

The first, yes, is Orthostixis cribraria.
As for the second one, I can only say exactly Rhodostrophia sp., but in general it really looks like pudorata.
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17.06.2008 11:43, Zhuk

What nieces? MO, male and female.

?Synanthedon tipuliformis

17.06.2008 12:11, AntSkr

how to identify glass girls in general? they all look alike...
in general, tipuliformis is most suitable...

This post was edited by AntSkr - 17.06.2008 12: 16

17.06.2008 12:39, svm2

[quote=Double A,16.06.2008 23:44]
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17.06.2008 13:38, Alexander Zarodov

 
2. Rhodostrophia ?pudorata

I would lean more towards discopunctata or the Greek version of calabra
http://www.biologie.uni-ulm.de/cgi-bin/sys...&valid=n&lang=e


Yes, discopunctata may well be, I am also confused by the lack of pudorata spots. And what is the" Greek version " of calabra?

17.06.2008 13:47, Zalmox

Yes, discopunctata may well be, I am also confused by the lack of pudorata spots. And what is the" Greek version " of calabra?

If I understood Mr. svm2 correctly, he is talking about Rhodostrophia calabra.Or am I wrong?

17.06.2008 13:48, svm2

Look at the link, there is an image of a butterfly from Greece, though very grater

17.06.2008 14:23, slipknofill

Comrades, help us identify these different sawyers!!!

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2. picture: __________________DSCF1089.jpg
3. picture: __________________DSCF1114.jpg
4. picture: __________________DSCF1212.jpg
5. picture: __________________DSCF1248.jpg
6. picture: __________________DSCF1263.jpg
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9. picture: __________________DSCF1328.jpg
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12. picture: __________________Hydrelia_testaceata.jpg
13. picture: _____________________________________Ptilodon_capucina__02.jpg

17.06.2008 14:31, Alexander Zarodov

Look at the link, there is an image of a butterfly from Greece, though very grated


Yes, you can't tell much from such a copy...


And here's a furry cute guy. At least what kind of family?

picture: lep06.jpg
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17.06.2008 14:35, Zalmox

to slipknofill
I think in the last photo crested Ptilodon capucina
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17.06.2008 14:43, Zhuk

Yes, you can't tell much from such a copy...
And here's a furry cute guy. At least what kind of family?

Probably some kind of bagworm (Psychidae)

17.06.2008 14:43, Zalmox

to Double A
Looked at the svm2 link and photo. You can be sure-your butterfly calabra "Greek version".

17.06.2008 15:45, Dinusik

Please tell me what is the name of this butterfly?

Pictures:
picture: P6160273.JPG
P6160273.JPG — (314.5к)

17.06.2008 15:49, AntSkr

if she were from the Moscow region, I would say that Emmelia trabealis...

17.06.2008 16:14, AntSkr

I don't know if it's Epirrhoe sp. or Rheumaptera hastata.
picture: DSC01262.JPG

17.06.2008 16:27, PG18

If she were from the Moscow region, I'd say she was Emmelia trabealis...

In Primurye, she is also, Emmelia trabealis smile.gif
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17.06.2008 16:28, Zhuk

Epirrhoe tristata
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17.06.2008 18:06, AntSkr

and what is this Acronicta?
picture: DSC01261.JPG
Lacanobia sp.?
picture: DSC01372.JPG

This post was edited by AntSkr - 17.06.2008 18: 09

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