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Egil, 29.08.2005 7:53

Dear colleagues, please share the sources of entomological pins - where do you get them, how do you get them?

And then my grandfather's supplies are running out .... and where to go and I don't even know :|

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29.08.2005 14:48, Egil

to Dzanat, I have already seen this, unfortunately there is nothing at the expense of pins lately, on paper, of course, it's good, but.... you yourself think you understand wink.gif

I'm going to Poland, maybe who knows where to look, where to go, go? smile.gif

30.08.2005 6:39, Egil

I would like from the second to the fourth pieces of ten at least: D-the material on the mattresses is lying, I don't like mess :|

the fifth would also, nemenozhechkosmile.gif-At least a couple of

By next season, I hope to find a place to buy smile.gif

I looked at a couple of forums here, a lot of people want to exchange material for pins and literature://....

31.08.2005 22:40, n

"Andrey" <antversg@mtu-net.ru >
A healthy red-haired bearded guy of 35 years old, usually makes an appointment somewhere in Moscow, he is from near Moscow. But I think he can also send it, 3 bucks a pack - 100 pcs. These are Czech Austerliz Pins, they are worse than Morfo Pins - a little softer, but you can work. The heads are golden plastic. This is the price for the blacks. Now I'll look for his website.
Found it - http://vernisage-b.narod.ru/Obor.htm
I was afraid that he would change the price.
In fact, they sell everything that sells dry material, but only for 3.5 - 4 bucks (black). Andrey is cheaper. I am now sending a friend to him and we will take 50 packs and if you are in Moscow, I can take them for you, then I will deliver them somehow.

31.08.2005 22:47, n

And if it's on you, it's better to write right away, otherwise I'll go somewhere for a long time and I won't be able to send it to you. 30-50 pins I will give you, of course, but after the purchase, TK stocks are exhausted strongly.

03.12.2005 11:48, stierlyz

Don't you want to try making pins yourself? Just need a wire.

11.12.2005 0:38, Bad Den

Don't you want to try making pins yourself? Just need a wire.

Manually - this process is very time-consuming and takes quite a long time. (a friend of mine makes pins himself).
The technology in general is as follows: the wire is taken, straightened, cut into pieces of the desired length, etched in acid to the desired diameter, polished with a fine sandpaper, a drop of epoxy with filler is placed on one end, the other end is manually sharpened and smoothed with sandpaper: 1 pin is readysmile.gif

16.12.2005 12:24, sa-8

Entomological pins (nulevki and edinichki) are very necessary. You need about 5000 pieces. Let's go to sa-8@mail.ru

Rostov-on-Don

25.12.2005 13:57, stierlyz

Not so time-consuming, if there is a wire acc. this is how the technology is set up. I do not recommend etching the wire - the surface becomes rough, and then it rushes harder. You can bend the wire over the gas, the main thing is not to overheat! Then cut the blanks, sharpen them on a small circle (this is the most time-consuming part of the process), remove the burrs from the tips with a fine skin and stick the head. At the same time, it is important to choose the concentration of epoxy so that the head does not fly off. Who is suitable for pins with ears, you can drive them.
Who is from Rostov, you have a powerful REO department there, really won't turn to anyone?

This post was edited by stierlyz - 12/25/2005 14: 01

22.02.2006 10:57, Aleksandr Ermakov

Regarding pins, I will say one thing: abroad will help us... smile.gif
If there are no pins, it is better to store the material on mattresses than to pin it on tailor's pins or on chopped strings from balalaika

22.02.2006 11:42, Bad Den

Regarding pins, I will say one thing: abroad will help us... smile.gif
If there are no pins, it is better to store the material on mattresses than to pin it on tailor's pins or on chopped balalaika strings.

It is better not to use a homemade tool, but when the price of a foreign pin scares you, you have smile.gifto get out of it

02.03.2006 8:49, Alex Rom

On the site www.entomolog.com they offer pins of a "domestic" manufacturer. Who ever used them? How's the quality?

02.03.2006 15:12, Bad Den

I do not recommend etching the wire - the surface becomes rough, and then it rushes harder.

It depends on what to poison, it poisons with some tricky composition, with inhibitors, etc.

03.03.2006 3:55, Guest

It's good that there was a choice-either Czech for $ 5 or ours for $ 2.5 (or rather about 3, taking into account overhead costs). I wonder if the unknown craftsman from N. Novgorod will be able to push Czech industry out of the market...

03.03.2006 12:30, Frantic

It's good that there was a choice-either Czech for $ 5 or ours for $ 2.5 (or rather about 3, taking into account overhead costs). I wonder if the unknown craftsman from N. Novgorod will be able to push Czech industry out of the market...


Oh, but where can you buy something for $ 5???? And then I already soaped up in England to make an order.. or in the Czech Republic...

03.03.2006 13:39, Bad Den

I wonder if the unknown craftsman from N. Novgorod will be able to push Czech industry out of the market...

I don't think so.
There is only one master, but the Czechs have a whole industry.
By the way, a used pin production line costs about 30 thousand euros (excluding customs clearance)

03.03.2006 14:26, Helene

Oh, but where can you buy something for $ 5???? And then I already soaped up in England to make an order.. or in the Czech Republic...

Well, you give mlin!!! wink.gif lol.gif In England... Custom made ... pins!!! Yes, the rich have their own habits... tongue.gif Well, all right, plates for beetles... really rare thing, because not everyone uses it. But pins! On a Bird - maybe for 5 Merican rubles (I didn't buy it), in the Czech Republic-for 3...
Get acquainted with your colleagues (even if only here on the forum), go to those of them who go to fairs, and order. You can eventually drive yourself. And it will be you right now smile.gif

03.03.2006 14:40, Bad Den

Well, you give mlin!!! wink.gif  lol.gif In England... Custom made ... pins!!! Yes, the rich have their own habits... tongue.gif

Well, what about it? Don't always buy football clubs in England, the variety should be smile.gif

03.03.2006 15:09, Helene

Well, what about it? It is not always rich to buy football clubs in England, there should be a variety smile.gif

In Japan, the services of rich entomologists (local oligarchs retired) - platinum pins with a gold head lol.gifIs not a joke. A Bishkek colleague told me: such Japanese people go to them in Kyrgyzstan for loxias - like safari lol.gif

03.03.2006 15:49, Bad Den

Not Ovchinnikov or Milko, by any chance? wink.gif

03.03.2006 16:27, Helene

Not Ovchinnikov or Milko, by any chance? wink.gif

Milko. Small world entomologitsky... smile.gif

03.03.2006 18:16, Frantic

Well, you give mlin!!! wink.gif  lol.gif In England... Custom made ... pins!!! Yes, the rich have their own habits... tongue.gif Well, all right, plates for beetles... really rare thing, because not everyone uses it. But pins! On a Bird - maybe for 5 Merican rubles (I didn't buy it), in the Czech Republic-for 3...
Get acquainted with your colleagues (even if only here on the forum), go to those of them who go to fairs, and order. You can eventually drive yourself. And you'll be happy right now smile.gif



Helene, life has taught me that no serious hobby is cheap..smile.gif Take professional photography, for example.. Entomology is generally free in comparison:) In addition,$ 5 is not the amount for which a person can be called an oligarch:)) I only need 400-500 pins, the same number of dies.. This is really not much.. And these pins will last me for a long time, for a couple of seasons (because there are not very many opportunities to go for insects, alas: the vacation is small, and business trips are not up to it at all). At the same time, the quality of the same "Morpho" is very good. I remember this back in the late 90s, when I was actively collecting all sorts of beetles.. On business trips, alas, there is no opportunity to go to entomological shops: either work, or photos, or traditional shopping:))

PS: Yes, I ordered a sample of several packages of pins from Nizhny Novgorod, it is very interesting to compare. As soon as the package arrives, I'll let you know my impressions:)

This post was edited by Frantic - 03.03.2006 18: 16

03.03.2006 18:40, Helene

In fact, from your post, it was clear that you were going to order a pin manufacturer in England... there was also a joke about the "rich" wink.gif

Helene, life has taught me that no serious hobby is cheap..smile.gif

Mey be... However, when this is not a hobby, but a serious scientific work, the same pins and dies cost a large penny simply because of the volume (when the material is estimated in hundreds and thousands). Morpho pins (by the way, this company is now divided into two-this is mitosiswink.gif) - a standard option that is used by almost everyone. And they buy a lot at the fairs in Prague and Frankfurt at the wholesale price at once. Dies are used mainly by amateurs.

PS: Yes, I ordered a sample of several packages of pins from Nizhny Novgorod, it is very interesting to compare. As soon as the package arrives, I'll let you know my impressions:)

Report smile.gif

03.03.2006 23:41, Frantic

Morpho pins (by the way, this company is now divided into two-this is mitosiswink.gif) - a standard option that is used by almost everyone. And they buy a lot at the fairs in Prague and Frankfurt at the wholesale price at once. Dies are used mainly by amateurs.
Let us know smile.gif



Yes, I do not pretend to science..smile.gif So, an amateur without complaints:)

About the pins. If almost EVERYONE buys Morpho in Prague and Frankfurt, then I would be happy to buy these pins for more in Moscow... But, as I noticed, for some reason there are problems with pins.. even people don't have enough for themselves:)

So I'll buy pins in the Czech Republic...

This post was edited by Frantic-03/04/2006 00: 10

04.03.2006 0:14, okoem

I buy pins through friends, in Kiev, from I. G. Ivy, Czech, black, at $ 2.5 per pack.
For those who do not want to go to England, the Czech Republic and Kiev for pins; -)...
- go back to the message of guest n dated 31.08.2005, which contains the e-mail address and the link to the website
http://vernisage-b.narod.ru/obor/pr.htm
I wrote there, asking about the pins. Pins in the assortment. The prices are reasonable. In addition to pins, the price list includes a large number of different entomological equipment.

04.03.2006 11:36, Frantic

I buy pins through friends, in Kiev, from I. G. Ivy, Czech, black, at $ 2.5 per pack.
For those who do not want to go to England, the Czech Republic and Kiev for pins; -)...
- go back to the message of guest n dated 31.08.2005, which contains the e-mail address and the link to the website
http://vernisage-b.narod.ru/obor/pr.htm
I wrote there, asking about the pins. Pins in the assortment. The prices are reasonable. In addition to pins, the price list includes a large number of different entomological equipment.



Thank you so much for the clear answer. I wrote there too, and I'm waiting for a response:) There are also dies, and in general a lot of useful things.

Thank you again!

04.03.2006 18:18, AGG

maybe at first glance it will seem like nonsense to someone, but... if someone knows the owner of a pet store, then you can try to promote the purchase of a small batch of equipment. MORPHO, at least in the past, was willing to answer even private letters. well, the product, I think, will not last long, because everyone knows approximately the price, and even where to get it, but only all this is approximately. and if you just go to the store and take the box number 1, because everyone will be smile.gif

06.03.2006 5:23, nimu

- go back to the message of guest n dated 31.08.2005, which contains the e-mail address and the link to the website
http://vernisage-b.narod.ru/obor/pr.htm

Lutshe immediately by email and if in Moscow so immediately send your tel or ask him (Andrey). It is found in Moscow within the metro, but the minimum order for a hundred is green.
I met with him about a month ago, at least then he only had black pins, and No. 3 was not at all.

06.03.2006 23:15, Валерий А.

You can also order directly from the Czech Republic.
For example, on the site www.entosphinx.cz
In the fall, at the exhibition in Prague, everything was littered with their advertising.
Very large range of entomological equipment. My eyes wander.

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07.03.2006 11:09, Bad Den

You can also order directly from the Czech Republic.
For example, on the site www.entosphinx.cz
In the fall, at the exhibition in Prague, everything was littered with their advertising.
Very large range of entomological equipment. My eyes wander.

Taking into account the delivery, this will probably happen...
I'm talking about pins

08.03.2006 0:54, AGG

it turns out cheaper, but if not 100 of each number smile.gif
пара адресов-www.skiclub.wz.cz ; www.ornithoptera.net

08.03.2006 4:23, Guest

but how do I pay for it? you represent our person, without a credit card, without a bank account and panicking about any monetary transactions other than cash, and even more so with foreign countries...

08.03.2006 19:38, Pavel Morozov

Dear friends, this weekend in Prague there was a bursa. Well, after all, one of our people went there. Why not reach out to someone and order?
People there usually buy pins by the thousands. Visit the page entomolog.narod.ru, contact the authors, they will definitely tell you about pins.

09.03.2006 16:12, Bad Den

Now here is a friend came in, just that his office received (through local intermediaries) 50,000 pins from the UK ("Austerlitz" or something like that, stainless steel, polymer head) in the amount of 150,000 rubles, i.e. 100 pins (pack) for 300 rubles. Nafiga such happiness is necessary...?

09.03.2006 16:53, Pavel Morozov

Well, no way! Yes, their price is red 2.5$. mad.gif

09.03.2006 17:13, Helene

Well, no way! Yes, their price is red 2.5$. mad.gif

Well, actually, it seems to be already 3 (the euro is growing), but in general everything is correct. I immediately suggested it as soon as the conversation started: someone goes to Prague and buys for everyone. And precisely because I suggested that merchants here cheat out of lawlessness.

09.03.2006 21:55, Bad Den

I immediately suggested it as soon as the conversation started: someone goes to Prague and buys for everyone.

Well, this is if someone with an opportunity. Especially to go, you need either a lot of people who want to go, or you need to wind up the price a lot - otherwise the rider risks being left without pants smile.gif

I looked at a couple of forums here, a lot of people want to exchange material for pins and literature :/

This is where such offers were dropped?

This post was edited by Bad Den-09.03.2006 22: 02

10.03.2006 12:24, гость: S

Dear colleagues!
[color=purple]Don't mess with each other's heads. Go to the website of the Entomological Vernissage company www. vernisage-b.narod.ru There you will find everything you need. And you don't need to do anything on your knees, either from wire or wood. Don't waste your time on this. Others have been doing it for you for a long time and everything is put on stream. By the way, they have a contract with Morpho for the supply of equipment to Russia.I myself have been using the services of this company for a long time and am very satisfied. I have 20 years of collecting experience. So there is something to compare.There are boxes pins dies etc True, the boxes are from$ 25 to $ 27, but excellent, made of wood. Previously, they were cheap( 300-350 rubles), but personally I use them as transportation, it's not a pity to wipe and hit. But now they're gone. They have closed the shop, but it seems that a new one should open in early summer. Boxes of domestic production. For your information, similar boxes from the Czech Republic are there 15EURO., and plus over time for some reason crumble. In my time, I brought a lot of them from there, I suffered a lot.Now I've given up on this case. So think about whether to go there for them or not. Also on the pins. There, a pack costs 2EURO on average, and 3,5 EURO on the Entovernisage. The only negative thing is that they work by mail. Well, like an online store. Sometimes you can cross paths with someone in Moscow and pick up an order.
But this needs to be negotiated. They are located in the Moscow region.I wish you all success.

10.03.2006 13:22, Helene

Well, this is if someone with an opportunity. Especially to go, you need either a lot of people who want to go, or you need to wind up the price a lot - otherwise the rider risks being left without pants smile.gif

I've been ordering pins from a friend of mine who goes to the fairs every year for a long time. I don't mention his last name (rather well - known), because he asked him not to advertise in this regard-so many people already order pins for him that it would be difficult to expand the list. In any case, the scheme is as follows: he goes to Prague, buys pins, and we reimburse him for the money spent. As a business, he does not do this - he says it is troublesome and not very profitable. He can only lose his pants if we throw him out - and why should we?
He goes to Prague not only for pins (for himself and for friends), but also communicates there with colleagues, gets the necessary material...
Maybe that's what you call an opportunity?

10.03.2006 16:51, Bad Den

Maybe that's what you call an opportunity?

That's right smile.gif

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