Lycaenidae

Where the butterfly is photographed, the view is very common, if not massive. And where there are two generations, then there may be a third.

Kyrgyzstan. Boom valley. Kok-Moynok-Kochkor road 1742-2100m 30.6-1.7.2009
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Afarsia sieversi ?gorana, Pamir, Khorog, Suchan, 18.07.2011, h~3800
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Thersamonia thersamon persica 15.07.2011, Darvaz, Kalai-Khumb, Panj River
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The upper one is clearly from the fees of our group .

Lucky photographers from the macro club to find this - pay attention to the date of the photo shoot!

Near Kharkiv, this species also flies in early October.

The top one is clearly from our group's fees .

This is exactly what babachkalov collected.

Why do the chest and base of the wings look wet?

Where?

And what do you think about this male golubyanka (alas, it was not really possible to remove the blue shine from the bottom of the "wings"):

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Icarus, what's bothering you? Dusting?

Where?

The body hairs are clumped together, and the scales at the base look clumpedmiss

So what?

Just wondering why?

That's for sure, it would be nice, but not all material can be spread out fresh. My golubyanka with a photo is not yet the first freshness. And the scales at the base of it are just strange, there is a small amount of blue.

Some Central Asian plebeians

1, 2, 5, 6. Plebejus roxane. 06.05.1965, Southern Uzbekistan, Dzhar-Kurgan village, leg. A. Tsvetaev.
3, 4, 7, 8. Plebejus tomyris. 31.07.1951, Alai valley, Jekendy village, leg. A. Tsvetaev.
Fig. 9, 10, 13, 14. Plebejus christophi. 01-03. 07. 2010, Kazakhstan, Or near Zharkent bridge, leg. Korb village.
Fig. 11, 12, 15, 16. Plebejus submontana. 12.07.1965, South-Western Tajikistan, 50 km of the Dushanbe-Kurgan-Tube road, leg. A. Tsvetaev.
17, 18, 21, 22. Plebejus rogneda. 03.08.1951, Tajikistan, Alai district, Damburachi, leg. A. Tsvetaev.
19, 20, 23, 24. Plebejus argivus. 05.07.1959, Ferghana region, Kokand city, Buwayda village, leg. A. Tsvetaev.

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Pseudophilotes bavius (Eversmann, 1832) - Crimea, Kerch Peninsula, Shchelkino, 29.05.2010 leg.Shaporinsky V.

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If you want the body of pigeons to be not flat(which is often the case with baggy material) and the hairiness is preserved, then straighten them
fresh.It turns out something like this.

And I keep the piles in baby food jars .And do not crumple, although I have the opportunity to drag a bunch of cans And a maximum of 3-4 hours on the rule

Vyacheslav and what do your bavius caterpillars grow on in the Crimea???

Vyacheslav and what do your bavius caterpillars grow on in the Crimea???

Not so long ago, I added to the site the available data on forage plants of Crimean diaries. We have Baviy developing on Salvia nemorosa

A couple of recent articles on pigeons

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A couple of recent articles on pigeons

It is very strange that icadius was never brought for Afghanistan. For Bamiyan, this is probably a good find, but it can't help but be in Badakhshan!
By the way, # 44 in Butterflies of Afghanistan is quite an icadius in my opinion.

A couple of recent articles on pigeons

I'm sorry, but did you post a pdf of part II of the Stages of pigeon development? It would also be very interesting to read.

I'm sorry, but did you post a pdf of part II of the Stages of pigeon development? It would also be very interesting to read.

Okoem has part II on its website:
http://babochki-kryma.narod.ru/files/lib/S...Preimaginal.pdf

Good afternoon!A few more Crimean pigeons from old collections:
0081-0082 Crimea, Kizil-Koba district, 23.05.2009
0083-0085 Crimea, Shchelkino, Mysovoe village, 7.07.2009
0086-0087 Crimea, Bakhchisarai district, Predushchelnoye village, 10.07.2009
0088-0089 Crimea, Predushchelnoye village, 10.07.2009
0092-0093 and 0094-0095 Crimea,Shchelkino,Mysovoe village,17.07.2009
0096-0097 Crimea, Mysovoe village, 7.07.2009
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Athamanthia japhetica what kind of pigeon is this? Where is it found and can it be inserted in the Orenburg region or in the south-east of Tatarstan?

This post was edited by niyaz - 02/18/2012 18: 58

Athamanthia japhetica what kind of pigeon is this? Where is it found and can it be inserted in the Orenburg region or in the south-east of Tatarstan?

I was looking for it specifically in Orenburg in 2011. Bad luck. But I discovered for myself - A BULLET))) I want to go there again! It's beautiful there!

I was looking for it specifically in Orenburg in 2011. Bad luck. But I discovered for myself - A BULLET))) I want to go there again! It's beautiful there!

Did you catch Callophrys butlerovi there by accident?

Did you catch Callophrys butlerovi there by accident?

Is this the one that is brown on top and green on the bottom?

eee, you are in the topic

Can I list all three works by all authors?

the first does not count) a completely inadequate view of things from a friend, alas...

I haven't seen Gorbunov yet. Very interesting to see.

Gene, and what maracandicus you develop on astragalus changeable (the one that varius)... and what else can it be? It is sad that in Saratov at the present time almost no one is engaged in diaries... but in those parts they found a lot of interesting things! I think that they also have a hundred pounds of maracandicus.

I wonder and apologize, with raspberries, everyone inevitably " gets on the same rake.".. this is like an indicator of entering the topic...

  

I wonder and apologize, with raspberries, everyone inevitably " gets on the same rake.".. this is like an indicator of entering the topic...

If you are talking about Chikolovets , then there is generally a fierce horror, and the fact that chalybeitincta is a subspecies of rubi there is not the worst evil.

If you are talking about Chikolovets , then there is generally a fierce horror, and the fact that chalybeitincta is a subspecies of rubi there is not the worst evil.

I think that Vadim was guided by Ten Hagen's work, so he didn't know the subspecies, but he didn't know Stradomsky's work.
And what do you think is the most" terrible evil " in Chikolovets? In my opinion, it is a good book, with almost no mistakes in spelling the names, which can not be said about Tuzov et al., 1998-2000, with more or less acceptable maps and even snapshots of types.
Of course, it can not be considered completely scientific, since there are no references, nomenclature acts, etc., but, still, do not be so strict about the fierce horror.

How can all the Transcaucasian taxa from the suaveola group (danchenkoi + armeniaca) and butlerovi be reduced to suaveola?? This means that a person has not seen the material on these species at all, has not looked at the types, etc., and he does not have any ideas about zoogeography in principle. After all, even Ten Hagen (who never once dealt with them, too, alas) these are separate species! And Chikolovets apparently did not see many "non-pop" taxa (Sallophrys mystaphia etc.)- I noticed that some of his photos are simply stupidly taken from books - for example ,from (Hesselbarth et al., 1995).
This is only about raspberries. What did he do with Phoebe's group? Also the ravings of a gray mare. And this happens at every turn.
I did not find Agrodiaetus zarathustra in the book at all, and I am sure that it is not the only one that is missing.
In general, terrible amateurism in the worst sense of the word, and profanity of science, alas...

P.S. I look forward to publishing books about butterflies of Iran-Iraq-Syria, Pakistan and China

Well, finally... Chikolovets was appreciated .

Well, the Europeans who confuse Alai with Altai are probably delighted - they were presented with everything on a silver platter, chewed and put in their mouths. A friend told me how in Tajikistan, in the Varzob gorge, she met two elderly Frenchmen with nets, happily waving a Chikolovetsky book on Tajikistan, respectively, scribbled-this species was caught - deleted from the list, and so on. Here it is, the true purpose of such books

Well, the Europeans who confuse Alai with Altai are probably delighted - they were presented with everything on a silver platter, chewed and put in their mouths. A friend told me how in Tajikistan, in the Varzob Gorge, she met two elderly Frenchmen with nets, joyfully waving a Chikolovetsky book on Tajikistan, respectively, scribbled - this species was caught - crossed off the list, and so on, this is the true purpose of such books

So what? What's wrong with using his books? Not everyone can do science. Butterflies are a favorite group of collectors. Such books are written for them.
If you want to get a book of Hesselbart's level, write it, and then you can scold other books.
In relation to the kallophrys, he writes that the status is controversial, etc. Here, for example, in the article by Danchenko et al. (by the way, an incredible number of misspellings) on the fauna of Armenia is written: “Callophrys rubi armeniaca Zhdanko, 1998 " .

So what? What's wrong with using his books? Not everyone can do science. Butterflies are a favorite group of collectors. Such books are written for them.
If you want to get a book of Hesselbart's level, write it, and then you can scold other books.
In relation to the kallophrys, he writes that the status is controversial, etc. Here, for example, in the article by Danchenko et al. (by the way, an incredible number of misspellings) on the fauna of Armenia is written: “Callophrys rubi armeniaca Zhdanko, 1998".

The bad thing is that deliberately false things are spread in this way. It is clear that in the West everyone will be guided by the book of Chikolovets, and not by the works of Stradomsky, for example. And so it turns out 2 "sciences" - one for collectors, the other for scientists
What is Danchenko's article? Could you send us a PDF? Very interesting. In the original description of armeniaca, Zhdanko clearly indicates its belonging to the suaveola group, and according to my data, it develops on Prangos.

I think that Vadim was guided by Ten Hagen's work, so he didn't know the subspecies, but he didn't know Stradomsky's work.

He knew everything, Valentine. He receives my articles regularly. It's not even that, it's just that he behaved completely unethically in a number of places. For example, Polyommatus celina was "unearthed"by Vimers, Vodolazhsky, and Stradomsky, and for some reason he refers to the subsequent work of Dinca et al 2011, in which the authors refer to us. Next, the Eros system: Three or four years ago, Chikolovets and I had a long e-mail exchange about the status of Eroides, etc. Now he gives us our system of eros, but without the slightest reference to our work with Vimers.

This post was edited by bora - 02/20/2012 17: 47