Cataloging photos of butterflies from the Forum on the site Insecta.pro

I fully support Gorbunov, Pekarsky and Morozov.

Mr. PG18 and Yakovlev, thank you for expressing your opinion. Better "no" than nothing. Now for questions that are not directly related to cataloging photos from molbiol:

What kind of site, what will it be in terms of information competence, what kind of "Azar" is behind it?

The answers to all these questions are available on this forum. It was assumed that this topic will discuss cataloging, and not the site (there is another topic for discussing the site). But you can do it here, I don't mind...

The name itself Lepidoptera.ru hints at the serious intentions and competence of curators, many curators.

Pavel, if you have a desire to become a curator, write to my email address main#lepidoptera.ru. If, however, I understand you correctly, and you, as well as other qualified specialists, are waiting for the site to acquire a more professional appearance, then I can confirm that I have not yet been able to attract many competent curators.

In the meantime, it looks like a child's babble under a loud sign.

Increasing the number of well-captured and well-defined molbiol photos will make babbling less childish and molbiol photos more structured.

Further, if the lepidoptera is "RU", then the tropics are then-to hell with it! Off topic!

.ru indicates the main target audience and, accordingly, the main language of the site. Therefore, the tropics are not all to hell.
Unlike entomology questions, I can talk about this issue on more than equal terms.

Even further, if you are interested in the participation of competent photographers, immediately keep the level: at a minimum, in addition to the name of the species, information about the locality, the author of the photo project should clearly appear, not to mention bio-ecological information about the species...

About the locale — appears if it was reported by the author of the photo when uploading. About the author of the photo-always, and by first/last name, not by nickname. As for information about the species — this refers to the issue of competent curation discussed above.

If you have any other comments, and even more so suggestions, I will be happy to listen to them and comment.

I am also against posting my photos on a dubious site. I fully support the position of Morozzza, okoema, barko, PG18 and Yakovleva. The site is unlikely to be able to fully embrace the vast with this approach. And its developer, as far as I understand, is not a lepidopterist. I looked at all this and realized that this is 100% utopia. Let it be better to keep my photos on the forum, and if you are interested, you will definitely find them here.
And even more so, now there are many cool, professional sites for different groups of Lepidoptera. And you can find a lot of things on them. Therefore, I very much doubt that the Asara site will ever become original, it is unlikely that any new, interesting information will be published on this site, no one will simply give it there.
Therefore, the best option is to create a popular science site for novice entomologists and the general public, it will be more useful and, at least, achievable if you make an effort.

Sincerely,
Ekos.

This post was edited by Ekos-06.08.2009 02: 01

Dear Ekos, I agree to participate in the site-as much as I can. The site is just focused on making sure that interested people participate in it, and not just look at it. Some mistakes are made from time to time by everyone, regardless of whether a person is a professional or an amateur, and people should correct each other, which this site fully corresponds to. With respect. Vasily. P.S. By the way, in addition to good and correct sites on the web, there are also bloopers.: http://nightbabochki.com Let's just help the site, not speculate whether it's good or bad.

Dear Ekos, I agree to participate in the site-as much as I can. The site is just focused on making sure that interested people participate in it, and not just look at it. Some mistakes are made from time to time by everyone, regardless of whether a person is a professional or an amateur, and people should correct each other, which this site fully corresponds to. With respect. Vasily. P.S. By the way, in addition to good and correct sites on the web, there are also bloopers.: http://nightbabochki.com Let's just help the site, not speculate whether it's good or bad.

What is the mentioned site, see the topic "Incorrect funny definitions of insects..." from post 317 and then almost half a page. It has nothing to do with entomology.

This post was edited by Aaata - 12.08.2009 11: 05

Dear Aaata, You have completely understood me correctly (regarding the link I provided: http://nightbabochki.com)-к it really has nothing to do with entomology. I'm just talking about a specific site: http://lepidoptera.ru-этот the site should be maintained and improved (with our help).

Dear Ekos, I agree to participate in the site-as much as I can. The site is just focused on making sure that interested people participate in it, and not just look at it. Some mistakes are made from time to time by everyone, regardless of whether a person is a professional or an amateur, and people should correct each other, which this site fully corresponds to. With respect. Vasily. P.S. By the way, in addition to good and correct sites on the web, there are also bloopers.: http://nightbabochki.com Let's just help the site, not speculate whether it's good or bad.

Dear vasiliy-feoktistov, it is your right to participate in this project. I have expressed my opinion on this issue, and whether to participate or not is the right of every person. I personally do not understand the meaning of the project when there are many professional sites for different groups of butterflies nearby. This project will never surpass them anyway. Read the rest above.

And the site http://nightbabochki.com I just looked it up. Horror, the hair stands on end!!! I've never seen such nonsense about butterflies before.

This post was edited by Ekos - 13.08.2009 01: 01

Friends, I have a suggestion for you: Let's stop holivar on this page on the topic of <url>-it does not quite correspond to this (for this there is a corresponding topic- "development of a general site about butterflies").

I agree, that's why I put up "big" photos. But, something is not active in detecting butterflies and caterpillars.

I agree, that's why I put up "big" photos. But, something is not active in identifying butterflies and caterpillars.

So the site stalled?

So the site stalled?

There must have been some difficulties. It will work
, but you want to have certain pictures.

I agree.

Website lepidoptera.ru closed.
So, apparently, this topic can also be closed.

Website lepidoptera.ru closed.
So, apparently, this topic can also be closed.

That's what I'm talking about (he's probably been killed for three months now). I myself participated in this site, like many from the forum, and I think that the topic should be closed (as well as two more) for non-randomness. Sad, but what can you do?

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 11/18/2009 05: 21

Due to the fact that a new version of the site has been launched Lepidoptera.ru (learn more — http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=235476) the topic of cataloging images of butterflies from molbiol is becoming relevant again. Last time I received a lot of responses from users of Molbiol, both negative and positive, respectively, I still have a table of nicknames of users who agree to publish their photos of butterflies.
Since more than a year has passed since that time, it is possible that someone has changed their mind about issuing permission to publish photos, and someone on the contrary. I ask everyone who has changed their opinion, send me a message about this in the forum's BOS or by email main#lepidoptera.ru (in the latter case, don't forget to enter your nickname). If you don't remember what you answered last time or don't remember if you answered anything at all, just write your opinion again, again via the BOS or email.
Work on collecting and publishing photos will begin on January 1, so it is highly desirable that those who have changed their minds inform me about this before the end of this year.
I would like to remind you that those who agree to the publication of their photos are required to have their full name in Russian and first/last name in Latin, since these data of the author must be published together with the photos taken by them. To send information about yourself, you can use the means of communication listed by me or simply register on the site Lepidoptera.ru and in the note, specify your nickname on Molbiol.
If you have any questions — I will be happy to answer in this topic, in the BOS, by mail or on the website.

This post was edited by Asar - 12/20/2010 20: 27

Of course I agree.

The first batch of photos is ready. Although this is more of a pen test — the bulk of it will be processed after the classification is updated on the site (in about a couple of weeks).
P. S. To the attention of those who publish photos both on Molbiol'e, and independently duplicate them on Lepidoptera.ru: now it becomes relevant to check before uploading photos to Lepidoptera.ru find out if I published them earlier, taking them from Molbiol.

The first batch of photos is ready. Although this is more of a pen test — the bulk of it will be processed after the classification is updated on the site (in about a couple of weeks).
P. S. To the attention of those who publish photos both on Molbiol'e, and independently duplicate them on Lepidoptera.ru: now it becomes relevant to check before uploading photos to Lepidoptera.ru find out if I published them earlier, taking them from Molbiol.

Mine don't need to be published: I'll duplicate it myself if anything

The question is relevant again, now on the scale of all insects and the site Insecta.pro. Read more in this topic: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=949164