About tropics, merchants, and personal preferences

Yes, I have no complaints about those who buy - I have complaints about those who sell past the scientific cash register, is it really unclear? Most of the material sold in any bursa will be eaten by leatherworms on the wall of those who chose to collect butterflies instead of trophy hunting rhinos. This is anti-scientific.

Nonsense!
I will mention a lot of collections in universities and museums of the country where Kopets came to collections. In addition, if someone takes Priaus or Ullis out of scientific circulation, it is unlikely that science will become stupid from such a loss. This is if we talk about the wall... I think that 90% of people who buy the material do not hang it on the wall.
And what is a "science ticket office"? Is it on B. Nikitskaya Street? Well, to know where she is. Suddenly that you can't get past it.

cash register"? Is it on B. Nikitskaya Street? Well, to know where she is. Suddenly that you can't get past it.

No, it's on Cromwell Road =)

Cromwell Road agrees. Both Munchausen-Strasse and Invaliden-Strasse.

And when you want, you will open the "Chingachgook Gogi Abramovich"type

Do you want my exodus from the forum? It's easy.

dare

Do you want my exodus from the forum? It's easy.

I don't want to, especially since I agreed with the original posts.
However, you still need to introduce yourself.

I, for one, am not afraid to say whatever I want on my own behalf.

I don't want to, especially since I agreed with the original posts.
However, you still need to introduce yourself.

I, for one, am not afraid to say whatever I want on my own behalf.

And no one wants to (I think). And with you, Vlad, I agree (somehow it's not easy to communicate with the air).

Please explain why the theme was created: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...0&#entry1101152

It cannot be ruled out that a person finds out how much you can blow on the next nest of rare nogokhvostok or ixodic ticks.

how everything is running...

Bravo, Victor! We tear each other's aedeagus, and here, in fact, is a specific marketing ploy...

Bravo, Victor! We tear each other's aedeagus, and here, in fact, is a specific marketing ploy...

A. J. Elez answered briefly!!! :[ ]

Wouldn't it be better to go blow out the veziki?

Wouldn't it be better to go blow out the veziki?

Roma, I dedicate this inverted vesica of Hypsopygia glaucinalis to you
Pyraloidea theme http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...0&#entry1101310

I think that 90% of people who buy the material do not hang it on the wall.

Much more than that, Roman. On the market, scientific material and wall art show-offs are practically non-merging arrays, even if they come from the same entomological counter. Both are not taken by the same people. Yes, and Vladislav understands this perfectly, I'm sure. The material that goes to the wall is not the material that can move science even one step forward. Therefore, if T. kotbegemot considers himself one of the proponents of the second type of material, then there is nothing for us to argue about, everyone on the forum agrees with this. You just don't need to throw a horn at the" wallmen " like a red rag and pass off the first type of material as a threat to the second; wall circulation of scientifically significant material does not interfere. What philistine wall decorator in the market conditions will take Davidovi or, relatively speaking, unique ixodovoi, when for the same money he can buy a pile of tropical dobrets, sometimes even a local divorce, that is much more suitable for decorating an apartment? Of course, it's hard for a scientist when valuable scientific material is clearly more expensive than cheap tropical show-offs, but no one forces you to spend money, and it's not the wall market that's to blame: You didn't give them to me, did you? if you want less, for God's sake, go yourself, get your money and your life time, open a new one yourself and catch it, and we'll see how much you save in the end. It is a little harder and more life-consuming to discover a Davidovi as a result of traveling than it is to breed tropics on the wall or just buy them in buckets from foreign suppliers. No one is speculating about the Entomological Review yet, but entomologists are in no hurry to subscribe to it even at a very scientific publishing price...

But aquarium fish are bought in 999 cases out of 1000 not for the sake of ichthyological science, although they keep in aquariums not only specially bred for the sake of the aquarium, but also purely natural forms. But it is unlikely that scientists-ichthyologists (except perhaps very biased) will raise a fuss about combating lovers of aquarium walls in the apartment. Well, it doesn't harm their science. And it is distributed in a pet store, imagine, not for nothing, but in accordance with the ratio of supply and demand. And no one groans from removing the material "from scientific circulation". Let's not make trouble among ourselves at the beginning of the journey, we are all interested in "continuing the banquet"... I believe that behemoth's conclusion that" entomologists will agree " will still win, and fans of decorated walls are a side effect (and in economic terms, even an auxiliary one), and there is no reason to make this a tragedy...

Wouldn't it be better to go blow out the veziki?

Yes, rather povduvat. We already have, consider, night, and in Barnaul and even more so.

Well, this is because you yourself are engaged in a parascientific activity in the form of describing new taxa of bulavousy in general and Parnassus in particular on the principle of "maybe something will not be reduced to synonyms".

Which doesn't detract from your great work in plowing through the cossides, but you should have said it anyway, sorry Roman.

And why I am engaged in parascientific activities. Vlad, I didn't just go to the fields in Devonshire. There are synonyms in my diaries, especially those described at the very beginning, now I have become much more accurate. About my parnassius-described 3 subspecies. I received congratulations on two of them from my colleagues from Russia, France, and Germany for finding good subspecies.
I am currently actively working on the Plebeius group from Mongolia. There are a lot of things that are not clear there, especially in sea buckthorn. The revision of Churkin and Zhdanko for this group appeals to me. And I really like the allopatride scheme. I don't understand everything right now with the freshly collected Oeneis. And apparently you will have to describe something. And this is not surprising. During this summer alone, I spent 70 days in the field, and in places where none of our brother was present, or only Churkin. The season was difficult and we managed to catch very early things that usually no one catches. Over the past 10 years, five excellent parnassians, about 10 excellent erebi and eneis, a lot of pigeons, checkers were found in the daytime ones. On one ridge in South Mongolia, I managed to catch 2 types of draughtsmen, 2 types of pigeons, 1 satirida, 1 parnassus. From 6 taxa, 5 new species. I don't understand why it's unscientific to go to places where no human has ever set foot and find new things, such as the panope group in Mongolia, super weird phoebe, 2 awesome checkers... But it is extremely difficult to catch near Serpukhov or Yaroslavl.
What is the scientific nature of bringing a new point within the already well-known range and the unscientific nature of working on the lost ridges of the southern Gobi?

This post was edited by Yakovlev - 24.09.2010 05: 32

And I also do not buy khokhlatok for wall panels. I can imagine what a framed Micromelalopha would look like!

Now on a burning topic.
For example, you can't lure me to Tajikistan, but I would buy khokhlatokas from there. I don't want to go to Mongolia either, but thanks to Roman, there are crested people from there. And thanks to Viktor Vasilyevich, there are people from China and Bhutan, and to a large extent he is responsible for our gallery of Ukrainian women, and not only Ukrainian women.
Our congress was attended by the most authoritative expert on this group, Alexander Schintlmeister. After that, he visited me and took the copies that interested him for work, let them serve for science.

But if our science cannot afford to buy someone else's fees or equip expeditions to hard-to-reach places, then this is already the fault of the state, which is actively developing only extractive industries and what will be called nanotechnology. Well, maybe, if only there will be nanocubes and nanocubes .
So, the wrong lips were pouted.

Onano will be

But if our science cannot afford to buy someone else's fees or equip expeditions to hard-to-reach places, then this is already the fault of the state, which is actively developing only extractive industries and what will be called nanotechnology.

I agree 100%: it is for this reason that a close relative of mine broke up with her research institute (not entomology) and now works successfully and productively with firmachs.
Do not consider it a flood (this is just a real-life example).

Yes, this is not a flood at all. I don't need to go far, and I myself preferred a place in a state institution with a small salary to work in a commercial clinic. Although it's a bit nauseating, they pay more.

Onano will be

I didn't catch up right away, damn it!
And also onanorapravilka for beginners

And why I am engaged in parascientific activities. Vlad, I didn't just go to the fields in Devonshire. There are synonyms in my diaries, especially those described at the very beginning, now I have become much more accurate.
[...What is
the scientific nature of bringing a new point within the already well-known range and the unscientific nature of working on the lost ridges of the southern Gobi?

It's great to catch where no one else has ever caught it! But why are these immediately new taxa - and not, say, the climatic variability of those already described? How can we be sure that the genetic isolation there is large enough for them to be new taxa? Or maybe even for this area these are not typical specimens, but the offspring of one strange female? Have samples from many years? There are large series, including those from neighboring regions?

Why immediately describe a subspecies?

And the answer is to drive paratypes on bursae.
That's why it's parascientific.

I'm live on the Forum, and now I make a suggestion: Your nicknames are good and talk about you... or rather about your complexes...
But, you need to know the "heroes" in person, in this case, it's nice to communicate when you see with Whom!..
Yes, and responsibility appears, even, perhaps, this is the MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!
There will be less hooliganism, but it is better not to have them at all...
Who is in favor of cleanliness?

This post was edited by Bolivar - 25.09.2010 10: 24

Pictures:

Preview39.jpg — (46.38к)

It's great to catch where no one else has ever caught it! But why are these immediately new taxa - and not, say, the climatic variability of those already described? How can we be sure that the genetic isolation there is large enough for them to be new taxa? Or maybe even for this area these are not typical specimens, but the offspring of one strange female? Have samples from many years? There are large series, including those from neighboring regions?

Why immediately describe a subspecies?

And the answer is to drive paratypes on bursae.
That's why it's parascientific.

By parnassus-there are samples for two subspecies - different years. There is no other way and will not be-for anyone. This is a very difficult place.
There are big episodes, of course, but it's hard to blame me for the lack of material.
Yes, to make excuses. One of my subspecies has already been twice cited as good by the French. This is P. ariadne erlik.
And climate variability in some cases-not subspecies? And what do we already measure the number of distinct amino acids to describe?

Announcement:
Dear viewers,
welcome to the 2nd season of the TV series "Entomology Territory". Parascientific "parasites"!
Famous "artists" with a new "hero" will expose a gang of merchants.
Unforgettable scenes with special effects, computer graphics and the latest "Stop Motion" technology. Tough dialogues, threats, blackmail will keep the viewer in suspense until the very end of the series.
Enjoy watching!

This post was edited by Entalex - 24.09.2010 11: 42

I'm live on the Forum, and now I make a suggestion: Your nicknames are good and talk about you... or rather about your complexes...
But, you need to know the "heroes" in person, in this case, it's nice to communicate when you see with Whom!..
Yes, and responsibility appears, even, perhaps, this is the MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!
Hooliganism and Assholes...there will be fewer of them, but it is better not to have them at all...
Who is in favor of cleanliness?

This is not a symposium, but an online forum. With its own subculture that has developed over the decades. In which the reference to "you" to the interlocutor is accepted ("you" is considered offensive), certain neologisms are also accepted (troll, trash, ram, cry more, etc.). If you want "purity" - communicate via ICQ or e-mail with your friends. The forum on the Internet assumes anonymity initially - do not ask the moderator for a copy of the passport identification page for each user?

So, if you'll excuse me, cry more: D

By parnassus-there are samples for two subspecies - different years. There is no other way and will not be-for anyone. This is a very difficult place.
There are big episodes, of course, but it's hard to blame me for the lack of material.
Yes, to make excuses. One of my subspecies has already been twice cited as good by the French. This is P. ariadne erlik.
And climate variability in some cases-not subspecies? And what do we already measure the number of distinct amino acids to describe?

Subspecies is an ecological category, not a systematic one. All subspecies should be reduced to synonyms for nominative taxa. It is not for nothing that many European journals do not publish descriptions of subspecies - this is pseudoscientific.

I think you are trolling here

  Announcement:
Dear viewers,
welcome to the 2nd season of the TV series "Entomology Territory". Parascientific "parasites"!
Famous "artists" with a new "hero" will expose a gang of merchants.
Unforgettable scenes with special effects, computer graphics and the latest "Stop Motion" technology. Tough dialogues, threats, blackmail will keep the viewer in suspense until the very end of the series.
Enjoy watching!

kg/am

I think you're trolling here

Do you have anything to say in substance?

By parnassus-there are samples for two subspecies - different years. There is no other way and will not be-for anyone. This is a very difficult place.
There are big episodes, of course, but it's hard to blame me for the lack of material.
Yes, to make excuses. One of my subspecies has already been twice cited as good by the French. This is P. ariadne erlik.
And climate variability in some cases-not subspecies? And what do we already measure the number of distinct amino acids to describe?

I would wait until the corresponding issue is published under the editorship of Bozano-otherwise these are the French... hacks are terrible, second place after the Chinese.

And based on the difference in amino acids, they are still synonymizing more, but they will soon describe nekomilfo without this.

Subspecies is an ecological category, not a systematic one. All subspecies should be reduced to synonyms for nominative taxa. It is not for nothing that many European journals do not publish descriptions of subspecies - this is pseudoscientific.

List them with references to the rules for authors that subspecies descriptions don't take.

List them with references to the rules for authors that do not apply to subspecies descriptions.

What for? I have nothing else to do? Seek, and ye shall find. Start with Belgian and very reputable ones like Phegea.

I think you're trolling here

And I, and I, and I are of the same opinion
isn't it time for some Kaspersky to develop an"Anti-Troll"?

This is not a symposium, but an online forum. With its own subculture that has developed over the decades. In which the reference to "you" to the interlocutor is accepted ("you" is considered offensive), certain neologisms are also accepted (troll, trash, ram, cry more, etc.). If you want "purity" - communicate via ICQ or e-mail with your friends. The forum on the Internet assumes anonymity initially - do not ask the moderator for a copy of the passport identification page for each user?

So, if you'll excuse me, cry more: D

Any anonymity when discussing non-intimate matters smacks of g-M. Forgive me, but it's true. When I went to the forum 2 years ago, I didn't even think about being encrypted. By the way, one advocate of the purity of entomological series, the same anonymous person, when serious questions came up, sold me the material. Excellent by the way, for which I thank him very much. I don't see anything to hide Sinyaev, Moroz, Pekarsky, Udovichenko... What is the point of going to the entoforum under a mask? This is not a dating site. By the way, neologisms, the meaning of which I do not know-this is your prerogative, as well as to call people of different ages and often those who do not know you...

I suggest that you ignore messages of a clearly provacational nature.

What for? I have nothing else to do? Seek, and ye shall find. Start with Belgian and very reputable ones like Phegea.

Phegea is a very reputable magazine... Nice. I had a description of the subspecies Oeneis jutta akoene Belik & Yakovlev published there. I thought that the authoritative journals are Entomologika Fennika or Titschkrift fur Entomologi, Shilap, Nota-if we talk about butterflies....

I would wait until the corresponding issue is published under the editorship of Bozano-otherwise these are the French... hacks are terrible, second place after the Chinese.

And based on the difference in amino acids, they are still more synonymized, but it will not be easy to describe it soon without this.

I don't think Jean Hanus ' article about Phoebe is a hack. I think after I posted it on the forum, you Vlad was among those who thanked me.
Is Bosano the ideal? I found mistakes in it, and serious ones at that. Although the books are very nice!

kg/am

Don't get carried away with mushrooms