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06.02.2010 12:16, Victor Titov

These aren't bed beetles!
Look, the ones on the left are upside down, belly up, so they look like bedbugs because of the sternites, but the one on the right is upside down with the elytra!. Elytra are blue-purple. And, most importantly, bedbugs have a crank mustache, but these do not.

Irina, where did you even see the elytra? And then, in the photo next to the two imagos - two nymphs. Where did you meet beetles with incomplete transformation? Or, in your opinion, a couple of completely different insects in the picture?
It would be necessary to have a better and more honorable photo. Then everything would be clear.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 06.02.2010 12: 19

06.02.2010 12:17, Sugercete

I'm not an experienced entomologist, but I consider myself a good and experienced marketer.
So, immediately take the mattress from the buyer, apologize and give him the money. Otherwise, it will be more expensive later.
Take the mattress to your office. Cut it open. Bugs (bedbugs) under the scanner. Scan for beetles and post them here. Here, honestly tell us what the mattress is stuffed with.
After that, experienced entomologists will be able to help you.

This post was edited by Sugercete - 06.02.2010 12: 20

06.02.2010 12:19, Sugercete

Irina, where did you even see the elytra? And then, in the photo next to the two imagos - two nymphs. Where did you meet beetles with incomplete transformation? Or, in your opinion, a couple of completely different insects in the picture?

I'm telling you , apparently all but one of them is upside down, so they look like a nymph.

06.02.2010 12:22, Victor Titov

I'm telling you , apparently all but one of them is upside down, so they look like a nymph.

Yes, I'm not talking about the position (upside down, down), but about the size!

06.02.2010 12:26, Bad Den

Irina, do not mislead the person. These are bed beetles from the Cimicidae family (bed beetles)

Loki: Take them to the SES yourself wink.gif

This post was edited by Bad Den-06.02.2010 12: 37

06.02.2010 12:26, Sugercete

Yes, I'm not talking about the position (upside down, down), but about the size!

And where have you seen bedbugs that run away from the shelter? The client said:"the beetles are coming." Bedbugs should hide in the mattress during the day. But the beetle larvae have devoured the orthopedic stuffing, and now they have hatched and are coming out.

06.02.2010 12:28, Guest

We don't put anything in the mattresses*

user posted image

And if it's bedbugs, then we don't owe the buyer anything.
The beetles couldn't get out of the mattress. there are no holes for them to "get out".

So bedbugs or not?

06.02.2010 12:30, Алексей Сажнев

Bedbugs, bedbugs, and most likely the buyer of the house

06.02.2010 12:31, Sugercete

Irina, do not mislead the person. These are bed beetles from the Cimicidae family (bed beetles)


I will agree with you when there is a better photo or scan.

06.02.2010 12:35, Bad Den

The client said:"the beetles are coming."

"Everyone lies"(c) smile.gif
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06.02.2010 12:39, Sugercete

We don't put anything in the mattresses*

user posted image

And if it's bedbugs, then we don't owe the buyer anything.
The beetles couldn't get out of the mattress. there are no holes for them to "get out".

So bedbugs or not?


Don't stick anything in? And coconut fiber?
This is some kind of exotic! It feeds on coconut wood.

I agree that if these are bed beetles, then this is not your problem, but the buyer's. But. An important point. If it's a coconut bug, then your entire business is at risk.
For the bug, as well as the fact that the SES said that they were not bedbugs.

Need a new photo or scan

06.02.2010 13:22, omar

Irina, don't mislead people. This is exactly what bed beetles are. you already considered yourself to be an experienced slasher. Are you now an experienced marketer? Learn to at least wash dishes.

06.02.2010 13:37, Alexandr Zhakov

These are most likely bed beetles. True, the photo is bad, on the corners most likely excrement.
If bedbugs appeared in a year - no complaints to you... Either they were in the apartment, or they came from neighbors... For a more precise definition, you can contact the surveillance service (now called the "hygiene and surveillance center" or Rospotrebnadzor... there must be specialists there...

I totally agree. classic traces of bed bug activity. Did you ask the customer if he scratched in the morning?

06.02.2010 14:10, Sugercete

Irina, don't mislead people. This is exactly what bed beetles are. you already considered yourself to be an experienced slasher. Are you now an experienced marketer? Learn to at least wash dishes.

What does the dishes have to do with it? Get your Petri dish back clean.

This post was edited by Sugercete - 06.02.2010 14: 19

06.02.2010 14:26, Александр57

Wait - if these aren't bedbugs after all - then why aren't there any traces of them inside the mattress and how do they get out through a very tight seam????

I'm already confused myself(((

And you didn't know why to smell it? It would have worked correctly
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06.02.2010 15:14, guest: Евгений

If you put a heater in the bathroom and warm it up properly, do you think it will help?

06.02.2010 15:51, Vorona

If you put a heater in the bathroom and warm it up properly, do you think it will help?

Most importantly, make sure that there are no leaks under the bathroom, condensation, etc. My friend's parents used similar measures to control cockroaches (I don't know if this was the reason, but there were no cockroaches in the apartment smile.gif) - water never dripped in the kitchen, the sink was always wiped dry and all that.

06.02.2010 17:42, Victor Titov

These aren't bed beetles!
Look, the ones on the left are upside down, belly up, so they look like bedbugs because of the sternites, but the one on the right is upside down with the elytra!. Elytra are blue-purple. And, most importantly, bedbugs have a crank mustache, but these do not.

What kind of cranked antennae are these?! What are the elytra?! Blue and purple... It's just a blurry photo! Look at least here-and the mustache, the color http://www.ozanimals.com/Insect/Bed-bug/Ci...ectularius.html

Such mattresses are stuffed with seaweed or shavings of various exotic, supposedly medicinal trees. So much for the source of beetles. On bamboo shavings from Vietnam came this beetle IMHO

Irina, before you say IMHO, you need to learn how to distinguish beetles from bedbugs. It would be fine, just argued like that. So the person who asked for help was also misled.
I'm telling you , apparently all but one of them is upside down, so they look like a nymph.

What did you mean by that phrase anyway? What idea should I express? In your opinion, a beetle turned upside down can be confused with a bedbug nymph?! lol.gif
And where have you seen bedbugs that run away from the shelter? The client said:"the beetles are coming." Bedbugs should hide in the mattress during the day. But the beetle larvae have devoured the orthopedic stuffing, and now they have hatched and are coming out.

Bedbugs don't owe you anything. Not to the client, not to you, not to anyone else. If you have ever encountered Cimex lectularius, then you should know that it is able to crawl into mind-bogglingly narrow crevices, hide under wallpaper during the day, in the crevices of furniture (including the one on which the mattress lies) due to, to put it mildly, the flattened shape of its body (naturally, in an insatiable, hungry bug - in the photo, by the way, "well-fed", hence the color).
picture: 2127536026_0c643076b1.jpg
In short, your perseverance, Irina, again, as in your very first topic (do not be mentioned at night - chur, chur, chur!), deserves better use.

06.02.2010 17:57, Sugercete

The person asked for help, and I'm the only one who cares about him and his problem.

Bedbugs, so bedbugs.

In this case, he needs a document from the SES stating that these are bedbugs.

06.02.2010 18:36, Victor Titov

The person asked for help, and I'm the only one who cares about him and his problem.

What makes you think you're the only one who's worried? Oh, don't try to express all the grief of the Russian people in your eyes! But the main rule of helping - do no harm-you just broke. In this case, you should not confuse a person with horror stories about " beetles that came from Vietnam in bamboo shavings." And confuse pantalyk with an unreasonably confident tone of their statements.

In this case, he needs a document from the SES stating that these are bedbugs.

But this is true. Only practice tells me that in some SES (divisions of Rospotrebnadzor) specialists now work even those!

06.02.2010 20:07, John-ST

For me, so typical bed beetles, I have such in the dorm lived when I was studying at the university. In a year's time, only the tenants could have bedbugs, but not from the mattress. Photos would be better, that would be 100% to say, and they stink characteristically.

07.02.2010 8:58, vasiliy-feoktistov

Bed bug Cimex lectularius - this is! And "It's no big deal here." Mattresses in the cold urgently (just kidding)! smile.gif
P.S. I came home from work (after a day) and read shuffle.gifit . What's there to argue about?

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 07.02.2010 11: 55

08.02.2010 7:49, Andrewsoad

These are terrible badbags.

Customers should have characteristic combed bites.

I lived with them for 3 months when they picked up a mattress on the street in America )))
Their bites are something unbearable, they itch incredibly, I still have a phobia six months later.

08.02.2010 23:51, John-ST

These are terrible badbags.

Customers should have characteristic combed bites.

I lived with them for 3 months when they picked up a mattress on the street in America )))
Their bites are something unbearable, they itch incredibly, I still have a phobia six months later.


Well it's an individual reaction smile.gif
I only had small red dots from bites and it didn't really itch, and one kid had bumps with a diameter of five rubles in the place of bites smile.gif

09.02.2010 5:36, Леночка

Recently installed plastic windows. And here they are...and only on one window...small, maximum 0.5 cm long, a little fly. they are gray with small antennae. they crunch when crushed. They sprayed dichlorvos-it doesn't help, they only made it worse for themselves, they sealed up the joints at the windowsill with sealant...There are no fewer of them..Can you tell me who it is and how to fight?

09.02.2010 8:35, vasiliy-feoktistov

Well, from the windows you hardly have them (rather, they were in the house earlier). In my opinion, this is another kozheedy. Read here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=339580 . Enough there about them and there was no need to make a separate topic.

09.02.2010 10:23, Guest

Maybe a separate topic should not have been created, but I can say that these are not leather eaters...And they have never appeared before, although we have been living for more than 20 years and shared repairs several times...

09.02.2010 10:31, vasiliy-feoktistov

Maybe a separate topic should not have been created, but I can say that these are not leather eaters...And they have never appeared before, although we have been living for more than 20 years and shared repairs several times...

Well in that case: Send a photo to the studio!!!

09.02.2010 10:53, amara

09.02.2010 11:29, vasiliy-feoktistov

So-as I feel that we will hardly wait for the photo-I will give a link on kozheedam:
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/atl_derm.htm
There are possible species in the house (pay special attention to the genera: Anthrenus and Attagenus). And not a single insect lives in polyvinyl chloride (from which windows are usually made)! You need to search in the house!

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 09.02.2010 12: 05

09.02.2010 12:43, Леночка

Something's wrong with the photo...It's very blurry, so I'll try to take a picture on my phone..And the fact that plastic beetles do not eat, I know, do not think badly of me))), I'm not BLONDE)))..It's just that beetles appeared after installing the PVC window and where they come from-we can't detect them yet..

09.02.2010 15:23, amara

Something's wrong with the photo...It's very blurry, so I'll try to take a picture on my phone..And the fact that plastic beetles do not eat, I know, do not think badly of me))), I'm not BLONDE)))..It's just that beetles appeared after installing the PVC window and where they come from-we can't detect them yet..


Lena, this is very typical for kozheezhs, they always fly where there is light, that is, on the windows. And they "climb" from places where dust accumulates, for example, cracks. Maybe changing the windows just opened up such places. You need to work with a vacuum cleaner and several times. I have leatherheads (Attagenuses) they live in the apartment for a long time. Working with a vacuum cleaner helps, but not 100 percent. I noticed that the beetles were coming out of their ventilation hatches, and it wasn't quite easy to get there.
Take a few photos, and put only the ones that were in focus here.

This post was edited by amara-09.02.2010 16: 54

10.02.2010 9:59, Леночка

Thanks, I'll try vacuuming..

13.02.2010 14:05, Михаил1

Kiev, winter, found on the floor of "Khrushchev"....
What kind of insect is this, please tell me !
And now how to keep it in captivity? :-)

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13.02.2010 14:19, Alexandr Zhakov

Kiev, winter, found on the floor of "Khrushchev"....
What kind of insect is this, please tell me !
And how to keep it in captivity now? :-)

it's not an insect. An arthropod.
The scootigera or flycatcher, which is not dangerous to humans, feeds on small insects.
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=42936&st=1250

14.02.2010 1:06, Bad Den

 
And how to keep it in captivity now? :-)

In the photo, it looks like it's slightly dead... confused.gif
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14.02.2010 1:35, Pirx

Kiev, winter, found on the floor of "Khrushchev"....
What kind of insect is this, please tell me !
And how to keep it in captivity now? :-)


In alcohol.

..Kiev, winter, lantern, pharmacy.
We found it on the floor of the "Khrushchev"....
What kind of insect, please tell me!
Maybe put it in bleach?
And now how to keep it in captivity?
Someone take it for yourself! Feed them!
My affectionate and gentle beast -
You will die in the wild...

26.02.2010 16:02, DeminG

Hello.
At home (it looks like from the attic) small beetles crawled. Help me recognize it.
http://i2.fastpic.ru/big/2010/0226/1c/5d83...82c4faad41c.jpg
http://i2.fastpic.ru/big/2010/0226/ea/8de4...5dcda2fd8ea.jpg
Crawled as the thaw came. They only crawl around the window. But most of them are already dead.
Thank you in advance.

26.02.2010 16:35, Alexandr Rusinov

These are grains, most likely beans. They develop in legumes, mainly in beans. Check your supply of beans and peas, most likely they live there...

02.03.2010 1:23, guest: Борис

On a couple of days at the institute, a certain animal was crawling along the wall, which attracted me with its unusual appearance: the fact is that it reminded me very much of a scorpion, only without a tail with a sting. As a child, I was fond of entomology, collected collections of insects, but I didn't see anything like it. If it is not difficult, tell me what kind of insect it is, small, about 3-4 mm long, dark brown in color. Caught in the southern part of the Moscow region (if this is important)

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