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08.08.2010 22:51, okoem

All right, I'll be waiting. Thanks!

Only, if it doesn't come out before winter, don't forget to arrange a winter shelter for it - put it in the refrigerator on the bottom shelf.

09.08.2010 13:31, Arikain

They change color depending on the place where they pupate, i.e. on a green plant, the pupa will be green, on a dark one-black and white, or if the pupa is ranging, it will most likely be gray, although not all. They will not change the color for a day or two through the shell of the pupa, you can see the color of the butterfly's wings. And since you keep them in the dark, they can fall into diapause. Attach them to twigs otherwise if they come out they probably won't spread their wings!

And if the pupae have already fallen into diapause, after what time will they come out, only in the spring, or even this summer they can?

09.08.2010 13:56, Alligator

And if the pupae have already fallen into diapause, after what time will they come out, only in the spring, or even this summer they can?

If you have already started diapausing, then this summer they will definitely not come out, in October they will need to be put in the refrigerator, and if you don't want to wait until spring, then let them hang like this, they will have to come out in winter.
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09.08.2010 17:21, Arikain

If you have already started diapausing, then this summer they will definitely not come out, in October they will need to be put in the refrigerator, and if you don't want to wait until spring, then let them hang like this, they will have to come out in winter.

And if you put them outside for the winter, it won't hurt them? Or in the corridor, where the temperature in winter is not higher than 0.
It's better to wait until spring, I don't want to ruin them smile.gif
So far, however, nothing has worked out for me smile.gifin the winter, although nothing has survived mol.gifthe winter either .

10.08.2010 14:13, guest: Илья

Please help me!!! On the 7th of this month, I found a burdock caterpillar. I live in Surgut, where it's cool and sometimes warm. The question is that the caterpillar in the jar has rolled up the leaves with a spider web, and is hiding inside. As I understand it, the caterpillar is going to spend the winter. What conditions are needed for wintering and further pupation? Thank you in advancesmile.gif!

10.08.2010 20:32, vaskar

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I came across it by accident today...I brought it home... on your own head. They eat - mamadaragaya! mol.gif There, if you listen closely, you can even hear the crunch! In the morning, probably, you will have to go to collect fresh nettles, otherwise, as if you were not starving to death. smile.gif
Yeah, and the question is: will such a crowded content prevent them from pupating?

12.08.2010 7:15, Alligator

And if you put them outside for the winter, it won't hurt them? Or in the corridor, where the temperature in winter is not higher than 0.
It's better to wait until spring, I don't want to ruin them smile.gif
So far, however, nothing has worked out for me smile.gifin the winter, although nothing has survived mol.gifthe winter either .


Look on the forum, here already wrote about wintering pupae. smile.gif

12.08.2010 9:23, Бабочник

you can keep it in a pile - it's okay. The main thing is fresh food on time (they develop quickly) and that it is not wet, especially so that the food is not wet.
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13.08.2010 0:24, vaskar

So, it seems that my beauties are going to pupate! jump.gif

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UPD: EVERYTHING! It worked! jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif

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Now I'm waiting for imago to come out. Judging from previous reports, this is a two-week wait? Or next year?

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14.08.2010 19:44, okoem

the caterpillar in the jar has rolled up the leaves with a spider web, and is hiding inside. As I understand it, the caterpillar is going to spend the winter.

You don't understand correctly. The burdock caterpillar lives among rolled leaves for life. It's a habit of hers. smile.gif So feed and wait for pupation. smile.gif

14.08.2010 22:14, vaskar

Well, the tracks of Inachis io did not take long to wait. Following the swallowtail, they also pupated. All 60 pieces... mol.gif Only two of them are still hanging like caterpillars.
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Most of them had to be manually transferred to sticks and glued with PVA. I've been sweating all evening...
If you wait for a swallowtail for two weeks, then how long do you wait for these imagos? confused.gif
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16.08.2010 22:01, vaskar

I was happy early... frown.gif
Pupated on Saturday in a six-liter plastic bottle, the Inachis io caterpillars were transferred to wooden sticks, attached with PVA glue and placed in a plastic cage.
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A day later, I observed a change in the color of the pupae: from yellow-green with a golden tint to light brown.
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I thought it should be like this. Today, when I got home, I found cocoons at the bottom of the cage, confused.gifand right before my eyes, a larva fell out of one of the pupae. mad.gif
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Opened the chrysalis, "and in the morning it has a neon sign means" light brown, unpleasant-smelling mush. weep.gif
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As I understand it, the caterpillars that were brought were something (or someone?) infected.
Do I understand correctly that brown pupae can already be discarded? eek.gif

16.08.2010 22:11, okoem


Do I understand correctly that brown pupae can already be discarded? eek.gif

May. But you probably don't have to throw out all the brown ones. Carefully inspect-from which the larvae came out, and throw them away.

16.08.2010 23:02, vaskar

Examined it. During manipulations, I found two more, one larva "helped" to get out (photo here, there are 16 of them).

17.08.2010 9:41, vasiliy-feoktistov

Examined it. During manipulations, I found two more, one larva "helped" to get out (photo here, there are 16 of them).

In your case, it looks like a Tahin of some kind (monthly). Yes, do not worry-the butterfly is ordinary, you will collect more.

18.08.2010 9:29, Arikain

And about Phalera bucephala, you can find out, it is only in the spring to wait, and whether it is necessary to dig a cuckoo and to what depth?

18.08.2010 21:35, okoem

And about Phalera bucephala, you can find out, it is only in the spring to wait, and whether it is necessary to dig a cuckoo and to what depth?

Wait for spring.
Bury the chrysalis = bury the chrysalis. It is absolutely not necessary to dig in.
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23.08.2010 11:12, Arikain

And what about the ones that are buried by themselves, I understand that it is better not to touch them, but is it possible to move them somewhere and how?

23.08.2010 19:56, okoem

And what about the ones that are buried by themselves, I understand that it is better not to touch them, but is it possible to move them somewhere and how?

If necessary, then you can. Dig it out and move it to your "somewhere". wink.gif

25.08.2010 13:37, SergeyB

Dear comrades,!! I want to ask: I found a martyr Macrothylacia rubi on the road at home... I want to try to grow a butterfly. Please tell me what is needed for this? What kind of food can I feed? Soil, etc. need?

28.08.2010 1:07, vaskar

Everything! My swallowtails were born! jump.gif

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It was not possible to film the exit of the first butterfly, and the second one didn't work out either...
They spent only 11 days in the pupa, and 33 days from the egg to the butterfly.

Now they're cracking down... weep.gif
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28.08.2010 11:34, vlad-veras

it's beautiful.

28.08.2010 18:14, TEMPUS

Dear comrades,!! I want to ask: I found a martyr Macrothylacia rubi on the road at home... I want to try to grow a butterfly. Please tell me what is needed for this? What kind of food can I feed? Soil, etc. need?

In captivity, Macrothylacia rubi caterpillars feed well on goat willow (Salix caprea).
However, judging by the fact that the caterpillar was found on the road, most likely, it will not feed,but is looking for a place to winter.Plant it in moistened sawdust.For a certain amount of time, it crawls along the surface of sawdust,then buries itself.During wintering, keep the container with the caterpillar in the refrigerator or on the balcony, regularly spray with water.At the end of winter or beginning of spring, remove the container with the caterpillar from the wintering area and transfer it to the heat.After a while,the caterpillar will get out of the sawdust,crawl for a while, and then pupate in a cocoon.Before pupating, Macrothylacia rubi caterpillars like to bask in the sun,it is better to provide them with this, pupation will be faster and easier.A couple of weeks after pupation, wait for the butterfly.

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29.08.2010 14:47, Эрик

On fresh concrete near the neighbor found this pupa. It is interesting to find out what kind of species, where to store the pupa before hatching and what conditions for the butterfly
. p. S. The fact that it is bred from concrete does not harm it?

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29.08.2010 15:23, vasiliy-feoktistov

It's hard to say, but I think that the hawk moth is some kind confused.gifof

29.08.2010 15:36, Эрик

It's hard to say, but I think it's a hawk moth of some sort confused.gif

I also thought it was a hawk moth, but when will it hatch?

29.08.2010 15:50, Arikain

I also thought it was a hawk moth, but when will it hatch?

I think in the spring. Although if you keep it warm, maybe in the middle of winter. My friend's so-average wine hawk moth came out, in December, right for his birthday smile.gif

29.08.2010 16:24, Evgenich

Eric, this is a bedstraw hawk moth pupa-Hyles gallii (Rottemburg, 1775)
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29.08.2010 16:33, vasiliy-feoktistov

  Eric, this is the pupa of the bedstraw hawk moth-Hyles gallii (Rottemburg, 1775)

Well, in this case, it can easily come out in the fall.

29.08.2010 16:58, Vis

help me identify the caterpillar. caught in Kiev, in a field near a military hospital. It is about 3 cm long. I think that Phlogophora methiculosa, but there are doubts...

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29.08.2010 18:21, Эрик

  Eric, this is the pupa of the bedstraw hawk moth-Hyles gallii (Rottemburg, 1775)

Evgeny, thank you!!!
ZY. At the dacha where I found the pupa, two years ago I still saw two caterpillars of milkweed hawkmoth, but I couldn't get it out. weep.gif

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29.08.2010 21:36, Vis

help me identify the caterpillars. both were caught in the Kiev region, 4 cm long.

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31.08.2010 17:25, okoem

help me identify the caterpillars. both were caught in the Kiev region, 4 cm long.

1. A.rumicis
2. H.armigera

ps. Vis, there is a separate topic for defining tracks.
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31.08.2010 18:32, Vis

there threw no one answered, and then quickly Nada... pasib for help

02.09.2010 19:52, Бабистр

In general, my pupa didn't want to turn into a butterfly this season... I waited all August, as I was promisedwink.gif, can you tell me what I should do with them next? In the refrigerator or on the balcony?

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02.09.2010 20:22, okoem

In general, my pupa didn't want to turn into a butterfly this season... I waited all August, as I was promisedwink.gif, can you tell me what I should do with them next? In the refrigerator or on the balcony?

On the balcony for now, and closer to winter-in the refrigerator.
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13.09.2010 9:14, Ромикдв

I found a spurge hawk moth caterpillar (the last age). Fed 3 days with fresh milkweed - ran around the bank, not eating. I read that this is how it should be before pupation. But in the dry ground that was at the bottom of the jar, she did not like it - she dug in and immediately climbed out. I put 15 cm of slightly moistened soil in a flower pot. I buried it a week ago (07.09.), I haven't touched it yet, I keep it on the eastern loggia (at night +10+12, during the day +20+25).
Questions:
1. When to put it in the refrigerator?
2 Is it possible to transfer the pupa together with the earth to a more compact container and put it on the bottom shelf of the door, once a week slightly moisten the soil? I just can't imagine where to find moss-sphagnum (steppe all around, Donetsk).
3. Temperature at the bottom of the refrigerator - +8+9, and recommended for wintering 0 +5. Would it hurt her?
4. When finding a caterpillar, I noticed its reddish color (not green, 3 days before pupation). Is this normal or does the red color indicate a parasite lesion?

13.09.2010 9:33, okoem

1. When to put it in the refrigerator?
2 Is it possible to transfer the pupa together with the earth to a more compact container and put it on the bottom shelf of the door, once a week slightly moisten the soil? I just can't imagine where to find moss-sphagnum (steppe all around, Donetsk).
3. Temperature at the bottom of the refrigerator - +8+9, and recommended for wintering 0 +5. Would it hurt her?
4. When finding a caterpillar, I noticed its reddish color (not green, 3 days before pupation). Is this normal or does the red color indicate a parasite lesion?

1. It is better to leave it on the loggia. It's not heated, is it?
2. Absolutely not. Either do not touch it at all, or dig it up and leave it without soil.
3. You can put it not at the very bottom, but higher?
4. This is normal. It doesn't say anything.
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13.09.2010 10:16, Ромикдв

Not heated, but on the loggia in winter in sunny weather in the thaw to +20-the roof of the loggia is bitumen, the winter is warm....
If you dig it out, what is it and how to save the pupa?
I'll put it higher - first I'll measure it with a thermometer, where it's optimal.

14.09.2010 16:06, шкав

suddenly they gave me a butterfly, Googled it-it's called golden ornithoptera. since the creature is alive, I didn't want to just put it on the curtain and wait for it to die.

I Googled a little more and tried to build something suitable for her habitation from the materials at hand.

as a result, the butterfly still lives by the window, on a bowl of water covered with a sieve, under the light of a table lamp. the window is covered with gauze, on which she is sitting. when not sitting, I spray the gauze with water.
I fed it first with a solution of honey, then fruit puree, and now I tried sugar syrup. I feed once, the proboscis lowers only after unfolding with a toothpick.
sometimes it flies.

I don't want her to die quickly.
now lives for the fourth day.

will it be able to survive under these conditions, and how do you know if its proboscis is dry and what it has actually eaten?

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