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10.05.2016 8:30, Sergey Didenko

I went for a couple of days to the dacha in Orekhovo-Zuyevsky district. During the day I went to the forest-full of morels. Swallowtails are already flying. Despite the heat of the day, the nights were cold, and in the morning it was cold up to 4-6 degrees. Years very weak, almost nothing flew, proserpine and yapinikum not yet. Pavonias flew even on May Day holidays, when the nights were warmer. On the night of May 9, a stray fresh male lanestris arrived - although Gennadich caught them three weeks ago, it is clear that the pupa was lying somewhere in the shade. The minimum set of tufts is 10 species in total, few scoops, few moths.
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14.05.2016 23:10, Seneka

I'll add more photos from our expedition.

Snake in the end - the Amur runner. The key word here is "Amur". His appearance in Lishnyakh will remain in the category of unexplained mysteries of our life, noting that the Tula Exotarium is located 40 km from the place of capture.

Well, here again, someone put the wrong eggs! Now the bastards are coming from Tula... It's time to save yourself. smile.gif

But seriously, what is the probability of meeting an individual who accidentally escaped 40 km away in nature? Apparently caught on. When I was a student, I caught a couple of them near Khabarovsk for a terrarium.

15.05.2016 14:39, Barnaba

Well, here again, someone put the wrong eggs! Now the bastards are coming from Tula... It's time to save yourself. smile.gif

But seriously, what is the probability of meeting an individual who accidentally escaped 40 km away in nature? Apparently caught on. When I was a student, I caught a couple of them near Khabarovsk for a terrarium.

For a snake, there is almost no chance. And to the Tula exotarium there is not 40, but more than 60 km in a straight line, like crows fly, and on the highway almost 100, I went repeatedly. Released, of course, nearby somewhere, intentionally or not. In Lishnyagi and around in recent years, summer residents are full, and curious naturalists regularly visit, the place has become famous, especially the northern tip of the forest. I'm afraid it might end badly. On the approaches to the windows of Nikitsky at the end of last summer, there was nowhere to step, either you will fall into an un-removed glass, or into a hole from the removed one. And different types of glasses frown.gif.
Skids could spend the winter in the karst, there are plenty of exits along the Lane. I believe that this underlying karst, as in Shchuchye by Sturgeon, works here as a thermostat, which makes it possible to gain the sum of effective temperatures and winter for many southern and steppe species and their forage plants noted here in isolation from the main range.

15.05.2016 15:00, Ilia Ustiantcev

 
Skids could spend the winter in the karst, there are plenty of exits along the Lane. I believe that this underlying karst, as in Shchuchye by Sturgeon, works here as a thermostat, which makes it possible to gain the sum of effective temperatures and winter for many southern and steppe species and their forage plants noted here in isolation from the main range.


And what about Nikitskoye and Shchuchye? By the way, do you know if the same geological structure and thermal effect is present in the upper reaches of the Moskva River, in the vicinity of the Polushkin quarries? I only saw Bembecia ichneumoniformis from more or less southern species there, but you never know...

15.05.2016 15:28, Barnaba

And what about Nikitskoye and Shchuchye? By the way, do you know if the same geological structure and thermal effect is present in the upper reaches of the Moskva River, in the vicinity of the Polushkin quarries? I only saw Bembecia ichneumoniformis from more or less southern species there, but you never know...

Professor Nikolay Borisovich Nikitsky (MSU Faculty of Medicine), with his assistants, used it for many years (and probably still uses it) Lishnyagi as a base for faunal studies of beetle fauna, put different types of traps, including window traps, some of the latter still stand in certain places. Mostly, from his collections and publications, the originality of the beetle fauna of this place and the habitat of many southern and steppe species initially became known.
Shchuchye is a village in the Venevsky district of the Tula region on the Sturgeon River, near Lishnyag. Higher up the Sturgeon River to the village of Prichali, there is also a karst with ravines and exits, dry meadows on top, interesting vegetation and fauna with elements of steppe and southern species. Check out the Pike Town Wikimapia.
I don't know exactly about the Polushkin quarries near Tuchkovo, but there are limestones there too. I believe that such an effect should occur wherever sufficiently porous rocks come out close to the surface, and their pores are largely filled with water. Then the rock acts as a heat accumulator, and the high heat capacity of water allows the thermostat effect to develop. An external feature that allows us to judge this is the abundance of rock outcrops with not very cold, surface keys.
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15.05.2016 15:38, Ilia Ustiantcev

Professor Nikolay Borisovich Nikitsky (MSU Faculty of Medicine), with his assistants, used it for many years (and probably still uses it) Lishnyagi as a base for faunal studies of beetle fauna, put different types of traps, including window traps, some of the latter still stand in certain places. Mostly, from his collections and publications, the originality of the beetle fauna of this place and the habitat of many southern and steppe species initially became known.
Shchuchye is a village in the Venevsky district of the Tula region on the Sturgeon River, near Lishnyag. Higher up the Sturgeon River to the village of Prichali, there is also a karst with ravines and exits, dry meadows on top, interesting vegetation and fauna with elements of steppe and southern species. Check out the Pike Town Wikimapia.
I don't know exactly about the Polushkin quarries near Tuchkovo, but there are limestones there too. I believe that such an effect should occur wherever sufficiently porous rocks come out close to the surface, and their pores are largely filled with water. Then the rock acts as a heat accumulator, and the high heat capacity of water allows the thermostat effect to develop. An external feature that allows us to judge this is the abundance of rock outcrops with not very cold, surface keys.


Ugh, for some reason I took it exclusively as a place different from Lishnyag, I heard about Nikitsky and traps in Lishnyag...

18.05.2016 22:28, STIGMA

Good evening, dear forumchane!
I have long planned to visit the northern and eastern suburbs of the Moscow region. For several years I wanted to get to the Batkovskoe swamp and that year I even almost reached the Oeneis jutta land, but the rains and high water did not allow me to get to the goal. And this year I decided to try my luck again to catch this swamp butterfly.
There were like-minded people, so together and on a tip from the forum we found out the approximate points. Since the May holidays were very warm this year, we decided to try to get out on the 14th in search of Jutta at our own risk.
The three of us got together, friends have a car, thanks to them, and left at 5-30 from the north of Moscow. At night it was cool, no more than 5 degrees, the previous night, they say, was with frost, which was really alarming. We got there quickly and at 8: 30 we already started along Shusta to Bolshoy Lake, it was dry, the channel was easily overcome, but then there were serious blockages and swamps, which took a lot of strength. At 10-10 we were at the intended point, the sun was high, quite warm and raspberries were rushing around the swamp, which were very numerous, but all broken, rosemary began to bloom. We started walking along the hummocks and mosses, but there was no limit to our disappointment, we walked 300-400 meters to the north through the swamp, then another 500 meters to the southwest and nothing, we walked through the swamp for an hour, the result was zero. We sat down to rest and realized that we missed the time again, Jutta didn't fly out, it was probably early and cold at night. We decided to go back the same way.
On the way, a couple of geese flew very low, what they were doing there is not clear, and a few ducks. A rather large butterfly fluttered up from the path and everyone seemed to perk up, but it turned out to be a peacock's eye. Then, coming out to someone's parking lot, another butterfly fluttered up, but also quickly flew away, they didn't have time to catch it. The wind picked up and because of this, it was impossible to find out who it was, because the butterfly was picked up and in a moment it is already 3-4 meters away from us. Meanwhile, the sun warmed up the swamp and it became a little stuffy at a temperature of no more than 18. The guys dispersed and I stayed in the parking lot. I saw a butterfly fluttering at the bottom and immediately realized that it was a satyr. It crept up like quietly, but it scared me off and I had to catch up actively waving the net and still almost falling, I hooked it. And, as it turned out, she is still Jutta!! It was about 11 o'clock. I call the guys and show them the capture, everyone perked up and began to more actively comb the areas between the dried-up small pine trees. Meanwhile, I also started moving more actively and saw another one and successfully caught it. The children were somewhat nervous, as they could not see the butterflies flying down at first. But within half an hour, they got used to it and the hunt became active and interesting. The swamp for fishing is not the most convenient place, so they constantly fell, clung to dry trees. Jutta turned out to be a very energetic butterfly, only every third one seen was caught. By behavior, if not to frighten, flies low, flutters, sits on dark trunks, warms up. Apparently in the morning, when we first arrived, the butterflies had not yet warmed up, so we thought that the butterfly had not flown out and decided to return.
As a result, we caught about 20 butterflies for three. Unfortunately, there were all males, but, interestingly, the butterflies flew out at least a day or two before our arrival, there were both grated and broken, scuffs on the front wings were present in all of them. Probably the butterfly took off on May 12-13. This is probably such an early spring this year. Well, in my opinion, we actually made a good trip outside the Moscow region of Jutta, I have been planning it for 4 years, but only this year I managed to do it. They came back tired but happy. The females will probably be out by this weekend. Thank you for your attention, I'll add a few photos.

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19.05.2016 22:29, niyaz

Why is there no Clossiana freja on the Batkov swamp? After all, in fact, with Jutta, these are satellite species flying at the same time.

20.05.2016 9:30, sergeySVK

M. B. and there is, but no one has seen it yet. Searched for it. Especially in the last 10-15 years since jutta was found. On the other hand, both Freya and Frigga are present in Belarus. As far as I know, Freya's closest place to Moscow Time is the vicinity of Valdai in the Novgorod region.

20.05.2016 10:30, STIGMA

Probably not enough forage plants, blueberries, cloudberries, bearberry.

20.05.2016 23:32, t00m

so not all satyrs chew cereal?
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20.05.2016 23:58, Ilia Ustiantcev

so not all satyrs chew cereal?

Here the mother-of-pearl is discussed, it probably eats plants from the previous post. I doubt, by the way, that in MO but some swamps there can be a little blueberry. But bearberry really grows only in one place, plus you will need to check out the strange lingonberry in Razdorov))

21.05.2016 12:49, lepidopterolog

so not all satyrs chew cereal?

Not all, Oeneis jutta here eats fluff (and this is sedge).

21.05.2016 12:50, lepidopterolog

Here the mother-of-pearl is discussed, it probably eats plants from the previous post. I doubt, by the way, that in MO but some swamps there can be a little blueberry. But bearberry really grows only in one place, plus you will need to check out the strange lingonberry in Razdorov))

And where do we mark bearberry? On Batkovsky?

21.05.2016 14:57, Ilia Ustiantcev

And where do we mark bearberry? On Batkovsky?


Not, according to KKMO, in a city park in Dubna, on top of one of the pine-covered hills.

21.05.2016 15:34, lepidopterolog

Not, according to KKMO, in a city park in Dubna, on top of one of the pine-covered hills.

O_o this is sudden! I'm sure I've been there before, and I'll have to take a closer look.

21.05.2016 19:10, Kovalevsky

Here it is: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1240496
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21.05.2016 19:19, Ilia Ustiantcev

Here it is: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1240496


Damn, that's what is very similar in Discord, especially given the fact that it does not creep.

22.05.2016 3:25, Andrey Ponomarev

21.05.2016
On the tip of the previous expedition (STIGMA & comrades), your humble servant and Alexander Boldyrev (Insectamo), went to the Batkovskoe swamp for Jutta.
The test is not for the weak in spirit and health. I've never experienced anything like this before. 12 km covered. very rough terrain, 4 hours one way and 4 hours back.
Now some photos.
Orgyia recens is probably common there taken almost at the side of the highway
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Barbel taken in the same place
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The dam is still intact
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Shusta was crossed without casualties. Lots of dragonflies hatching
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I mowed on blueberries, birch and rosemary quite often come across caterpillars of Coenophila subrosea
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The first point where the long-awaited Jutta is taken
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We called this place the "Forest of Dead Entomologists" because of the difficulty of crossing it, because we almost died there on the way back, despite the knives in our hands. I would very much like the feet to be bent in the opposite direction, since I could no longer lift my legs to a height of 30 - 40 cm.
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On the way, we were saved from thirst by last year's cranberries
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And finally, the Oeneis jutta nest. It is worth noting that on the approach to the "point" it is uncomfortable to catch, because it is quite difficult to run after butterflies through bushes, pines and moss, and at the final point it is much larger, and vegetation is sparse.
Most of the butterflies encountered were males, but a few females were also caught.
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In cloudy weather, Jutta sits on the trunks of pine trees and in the grass.
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Mosquitoes eb-t not only oenomologists...
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PS: on the way back, Bolshoe Lake was bypassed from the other (eastern) side.
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22.05.2016 11:43, Ilia Ustiantcev

21.05.2016
On the tip of the previous expedition (STIGMA & comrades), your humble servant and Alexander Boldyrev (Insectamo), went to the Batkovskoe swamp for Jutta.


And sho, no interesting micra? Or wait for a post in the definition?)

22.05.2016 16:07, insectamo

On the question of the timing of summer and the sexes of Oeneis jutta:
out of 15 butterflies, only 2 were females.
Males are very different in color: the intensity of red bandages, the number and size of black spots. In the field, a quick glance at a couple of times, males with wide red belts and large black spots were mistaken for females.
Males of varying degrees of freshness-from completely "killed" to absolutely fresh; one of the males was met at the time of hatching.
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22.05.2016 18:23, daydreamer

I read the report and remembered how twice last year I went to the Tygyn swamp on Iremel for Jutta... and nifiga did not find. Not comrades, even looking at your beautiful reports, I'm not fucking there anymore)))
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22.05.2016 18:24, Andrey Ponomarev

And sho, no interesting micra? Or wait for a post in the definition?)

From micra mainly Plutella xylostella, zadolbala.
I saw a black gelecheid similar to Neofaculta infernella on the trunk of a pine tree, but I couldn't catch it because it was buried under the bark.
I saw 2 rabid Coranarta cordigera.

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22.05.2016 18:42, Ilia Ustiantcev

From micra mainly Plutella xylostella, zadolbala.


Not just you...
It's a pity that I didn't catch the black one, otherwise there could have been Xenolechia aethiops in the swamp, then we could have said that we definitely have it, and they didn't bring it to me in Pestovo with some Erica...
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22.05.2016 18:45, Vlad Proklov

From micra mainly Plutella xylostella, zadolbala.
I saw a black gelecheid similar to Neofaculta infernella on the trunk of a pine tree, but I couldn't catch it because it was buried under the bark.
I saw 2 rabid Coranarta cordigera.

In addition to Neofaculta infernella, there is also N. ericetella - and this is a genital pair, so they need to be collected.

22.05.2016 19:10, insectamo

... Not comrades, even looking at your beautiful reports, I'm not fucking there anymore)))

I really understand you )))

22.05.2016 19:23, Shamil Murtazin

I read the report and remembered how twice last year I went to the Tygyn swamp on Iremel for Jutta... and nifiga did not find. Not comrades, even looking at your beautiful reports, I'm not fucking there anymore)))

It is necessary, by the way, to organize an expedition somewhere too =)
About "not a foot" - I also say that, and then you forget all the bad things and still go...

23.05.2016 10:32, Seneka

According to the photos, the Tygyn swamp seems to be not so terrible. There are also marshes in the Moscow region. I was in the Taldomsky district on Saturday at a similar event. There is no solid ground, you stand on sphagnum, as if on water, everything sways. By the way, Carabus menetriesi caught.
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23.05.2016 18:06, daydreamer

According to the photos, the Tygyn swamp seems to be not so terrible. There are also marshes in the Moscow region. I was in the Taldomsky district on Saturday at a similar event. There is no solid ground, you stand on sphagnum, as if on water, everything sways. By the way, I caught Carabus menetriesi.

Yes, the swamp is normal, if you don't count a ton of mosquitoes and small squelches under your feet. But the road there in 1 day.... the road is only up to the plateau on Iremel and then through the forest along the bush along the streams and on the rocks and water here and there. Since then, I've been writing about those places only in verse and only with mats))))

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23.05.2016 20:25, Синицын Валерий

Yes, you, brother, I'm not watching "polevik" at all! Some urban entomologist! You would have a car to the flower bed, but that would run on the asphalt, and it is better not to run, but that the butterflies themselves would fold their wings and lay down on the mattress! Dyk you in the winter on the ice hole! Suddenly you'll catch a pike!

But when a month with a backpack in the taiga! Yes, without paths-paths! On the wild rosemary - in the swamp! Yes! Sometimes it sucks ! Yes! With mats "tricky", but the next year again pulls...!

23.05.2016 22:08, Black Coleopter

By the way, I caught Carabus menetriesi.

Nitens would be better. wink.gif

23.05.2016 22:31, Ilia Ustiantcev

Nitens would be better. wink.gif

By the way, what about him in the MO, on any riding swamp meets or not? How and where to set a trap on it? I really want to look at it."

24.05.2016 5:28, daydreamer

Yes, you, brother, I'm not watching "polevik" at all! Some urban entomologist! You would have a car to the flower bed, but that would run on the asphalt, and it is better not to run, but that the butterflies themselves would fold their wings and lay down on the mattress! Dyk you in the winter on the ice hole! Suddenly you'll catch a pike!

But when a month with a backpack in the taiga! Yes, without paths-paths! On the wild rosemary - in the swamp! Yes! Sometimes it sucks ! Yes! With mats "tricky", but next year again pulls...!

Nooooo I love the mountains and steppes more))) But to be honest, it's like a swamp..... But only with mats))))

24.05.2016 18:46, Синицын Валерий

Well, this is as usual!...

25.05.2016 17:44, Seneka

Nitens would be better. wink.gif

It would be better to have both and more. wink.gif

26.05.2016 12:11, Barnaba

By the way, what about him in the MO, on any riding swamp meets or not? How and where to set a trap on it? I really want to look at it."

It seems to be bad in recent years in MO with C. nitens, although I did not specifically search for it. It wasn't found everywhere before. Yesterday we discussed this topic with a friend and agreed that many well-known spots in the east and south of the region, where the species was regularly (although not massively) encountered in the 90s and very early 2000s, dried up during the dry years (approximately 2005-2012), and now it is not caught there. These are mostly wet meadows and green mosses, including those near swamps and reservoirs. Some of these biotopes have practically disappeared (changed) due to the climate, better land reclamation, and land development is more intensive than in the 90s. In recent years, it seems to be getting wetter, but it is completely unclear whether the species has been preserved. As far as I know, the situation is similar in the Vladimir region. So we need to look for new locations, and I think the best chances are in the north of the region, in the Dmitrov and Taldomsky districts.
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26.05.2016 21:10, Ilia Ustiantcev

On Tuesday, I went to Tugolesye, I wanted to catch something cool from the diaries, but I was not lucky with the weather, I had to settle for moths. Although in addition to the ubiquitous pop music, there was myrmidon, as well as some mother-of - pearl in the swamp, which I took for aquilonaris and released, but it's a pity-it was rather euphrosyne, which I don't have. Even in a slightly swampy pine forest, egeria came across-imagine how I chased her, hoping for jutta... The swamp under the power line is very overgrown, I almost did not go there, but instead searched the edge of the swamp a little closer to the station (the leftmost red outline). There I came across Neofaculta ericetella and Stictea mygindiana. I have long dreamed of catching the last one, but unfortunately I didn't get a very fresh copy, and I missed the beautiful bright crimson version of this leaf wrapper. Rummaging on the broom tree in the vicinity of the station (the second red mark on the left), I managed to get Grapholita pallifrontana (mass species) and Epiblema sarmatana, I mowed out a rare firefly Evergestis frumentalis from the grass, and on the cat's paw I came across a lotPlatyptilia tesseradactyla, also Eurrhypis pollinalis escaped from me, which I wanted to take a picture of in nature. Many broom moths, Scotopteryx mucronata and luridata, flew everywhere (as a background view). In a narrow strip of pine forest near the road (far right red mark) with broom and heather caught Ancylis unguicella. Finally, Upis ceramboides was found on a pole closer to Voimezhnoye. It remains only to say that the second red outline on the right is practically not a swampy forest near the cemetery with an undergrowth of almost one wild rosemary, and also that I came across a large and mature tubular mushroom like a moss, and this is at the end of May. In general, an awesome place, we will have to go there again in June for diaries to go.

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Platyptilia tesseradactyla and their forage plant
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Cetonia aurata, which massively occupied the flowers of aronia in the swamp, and Upis ceramboides
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Grapholita pallifrontana and Epiblema sarmatana
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Scotopteryx mucronata и S.luridata
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26.05.2016 21:11, Ilia Ustiantcev

Evergestis frumentalis
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Stictea mygindiana and Ancylis unguicella
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Neofaculta ericetella and some Nematopogon (magna?) they didn't want to be photographed, so they had to freeze to death
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26.05.2016 21:24, insectamo

On Tuesday, I went to Tugolesye, I wanted to catch something cool from the diaries, but I was not lucky with the weather, I had to settle for moths. Although in addition to the ubiquitous pop music, there was myrmidon, as well as some mother-of - pearl in the swamp, which I took for aquilonaris and released, but it's a pity-it was rather euphrosyne, which I don't have. Even in a slightly swampy pine forest, egeria came across-imagine how I chased her, hoping for jutta... The swamp under the power line is very overgrown, I almost did not go there, but instead searched the edge of the swamp a little closer to the station (the leftmost red outline). There I came across Neofaculta ericetella and Stictea mygindiana. I have long dreamed of catching the last one, but unfortunately I didn't get a very fresh copy, and I missed the beautiful bright crimson version of this leaf wrapper. Rummaging on the broom tree in the vicinity of the station (the second red mark on the left), I managed to get Grapholita pallifrontana (mass species) and Epiblema sarmatana, I mowed out a rare firefly Evergestis frumentalis from the grass, and on the cat's paw I came across a lotPlatyptilia tesseradactyla, also Eurrhypis pollinalis escaped from me, which I wanted to take a picture of in nature. Many broom moths, Scotopteryx mucronata and luridata, flew everywhere (as a background view). In a narrow strip of pine forest near the road (far right red mark) with broom and heather caught Ancylis unguicella. Finally, Upis ceramboides was found on a pole closer to Voimezhnoye. It remains only to say that the second red outline on the right is practically not a swampy forest near the cemetery with an undergrowth of almost one wild rosemary, and also that I came across a large and mature tubular mushroom like a moss, and this is at the end of May. In general, an awesome place, we will have to go there again in June for diaries to go.



Ilya, why did you decide that the second Scotopteryx is luridata, and not also mucronata?

26.05.2016 21:31, Ilia Ustiantcev

Ilya, why did you decide that the second Scotopteryx is luridata, and not also mucronata?


This is not me, but Zhuk, based on genital studies and comparison of the series, deduced a sign according to which the external yellow-brown line in mucronata is rather sinuous, and in luridata it is close to an ideal straight line. He also said that Tugolesye definitely has both species.
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