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03.05.2009 15:50, entomolog

Has anyone already caught Endromis in the Leningrad region?

03.05.2009 17:01, El Cazador

In addition Aglia tau began flying during the day Pavonia is not yet visible

Don't you get anything wrong? Did they catch the Tau themselves, or did they only observe it in flight?

03.05.2009 17:46, Papaver

And what is the joke of your question? What is confusing: tau in the Ivanovo region, tau flying during the day, visual acuity And the fact that tau can fly... "WHAT?" eek.gif

03.05.2009 18:02, Илюха

Don't you get anything wrong? Did they catch the Tau themselves, or did they only observe it in flight?

I caught it myself, now I understand.

03.05.2009 18:33, Papaver

Ilyukh, enlighten me! It's not clear to me that El Cazador isn't clear!!!

03.05.2009 20:29, Илюха

Well I somehow figured it out

04.05.2009 6:13, Sergey Didenko

Doubts about tau are obvious: this year they have not yet flown to the Ministry of Defense, but they are already flying north of you. In flight, it is problematic to distinguish them from endromis, so if you have seen flying ones, then most likely silkworms...
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04.05.2009 8:22, Aaata

Doubts about tau are obvious: this year they have not yet flown to the Ministry of Defense, but they are already flying north of you. In flight, it is problematic to distinguish them from endromis, so if you have seen flying ones, then most likely silkworms...

Well, I don't know... Maybe from a long distance and during the maximum courier speed, males of tau and endromis look similar in flight.

By the way, in the Ivanovo region at the weekend, apparently, there was not such a noticeable cold snap (especially at night), as in MO-so tau flew.

04.05.2009 8:39, Sergey Didenko

Well, I don't know... Maybe from a long distance and during the maximum courier speed, males of tau and endromis look similar in flight.

By the way, in the Ivanovo region at the weekend, apparently, there was not such a noticeable cold snap (especially at night), as in MO-so tau flew.

I always liked the "apparently" statements smile.gif. Here is the weather archive for May 1,2,3:
Ivanovo (3 am) +4.6, -0.8, +2.9
Moscow (3 am) +4.2, +2.5, +5.9
In general, it was possible not to check, the probability that it is warmer in Ivanovskaya - below the baseboard and only convinced me that tau is unlikely to fly there.
I think that the forum members who caught both in the Ivanovo and Moscow regions will correct me if I make a mistake by naming the 1-2-week delay period in the departure of butterflies of the Ivanovo region.

04.05.2009 9:51, Aaata

I always liked the "apparently" statements smile.gif. Here is the weather archive for May 1,2,3:
Ivanovo (3 am) +4.6, -0.8, +2.9
Moscow (3 am) +4.2, +2.5, +5.9
In general, it was possible not to check, the probability that it is warmer in Ivanovskaya - below the baseboard and only convinced me that tau is unlikely to fly there.
I think that the forum members who caught both in the Ivanovo and Moscow regions will correct me if I make a mistake by naming the 1-2-week delay period in the departure of butterflies of the Ivanovo region.

And butterflies do not know any calculations about my "apparently" and about your "hardly". They do not pay any attention to dubious weather archives, but they keep flying and flying...

The day before yesterday, familiar hunters collected both of these species (males and females) both during the day and in the light (until 00.00, which is why it is pre-dawn 3 am) in the south of the Ivanovo region (they do not give a "label" in more detail – their right).

04.05.2009 10:11, Guest

Well, once collected, it means they fly, but in Moscow, it turns out they flew away (and endromises are bad, so they still fly). Just kidding, of course, but it's hard to believe without the texture.

04.05.2009 10:12, Sergey Didenko

Previous message is mine.

04.05.2009 10:38, Aaata

Well, once collected, it means they fly, but in Moscow, it turns out they flew away (and endromises are bad, so they still fly). Just kidding, of course, but it's hard to believe without the texture.

A 100% invoice is only one - 30 minutes of flight and you are in Ivanovo...! (the benefit of the reconstructed airport there is in working order) smile.gif

04.05.2009 13:07, entomolog

Has anyone already caught Endromis in the Leningrad region?

Colleagues! Share info plz!

04.05.2009 14:01, mikee

Colleagues! Share your plz info!

I don't have any specific information, but I was in St. Petersburg on a business trip on April 29 and didn't see any special differences in the degree of spring development (phenological signs) compared to the Moscow region. In my opinion, they should be flying with all their might by now.
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04.05.2009 14:15, Grigory Grigoryev

One male arrived in Divenskaya last weekend (on the night of April 26).
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04.05.2009 14:33, Sergey Didenko

A 100% invoice is only one - 30 minutes of flight and you are in Ivanovo...! (the benefit of the reconstructed airport there is in working order) smile.gif

Almost persuaded! It remains to agree on the place and time of the meeting (or you suggest that I search for tau at random, because I won't find it for sure). Finally, have you personally seen tau this year?

06.05.2009 7:32, Aaata

Almost persuaded! It remains to agree on the place and time of the meeting (or you suggest that I search for tau at random, because I won't find it for sure). Finally, have you personally seen tau this year?

Yes, even in the birch forest around the airfield, in the Ivanovo region, this species is banal and competes in its visibility only with lemongrass.

Personally, I didn't see tau this year and couldn't see it, because I don't even come close to the necessary biotopes now, and my interests are already different. But what does it change? I have no reason to distrust the comrades I referred to. Yes, and one of the forum participants from the Ivanovo region here also unequivocally reported that the male tau was not only met by them this year, but also captured. What's more? For me, all this is enough to consider that there years of this type began. For some, it is not enough, well, it is their right to remain in their opinion.

P.S. While the forum was silent, I hope you also flew to MO tau...?

06.05.2009 8:14, Sergey Didenko

They didn't fly a damn thing, but I drove them from work to the country in vain.

06.05.2009 8:41, Guest

They didn't fly a damn thing, but I drove them from work to the country in vain.

If in the MO this year is "poor harvest" for tau, then the probability of finding this species at the very beginning of summer is small, but it becomes more real as the butterflies come out, i.e. at their quantitative maximum. And this may be by the end of the first or middle of the second decade of May, especially since spring is abnormal. In the Nizhny Novgorod region, I used to catch them on May 19-20 (I don't remember the year), and fresh ones at that.(and at the earliest, in another year-April 27)

Happy fishing!

06.05.2009 8:55, Aaata

previous message is mine.

06.05.2009 14:01, Tyomochkin

Pavonia did not appear in the Ministry of Defense? Well, fuck it, if this week there will be the same hat as last week-10 butterflies per night... I'll curse the night fishing!

06.05.2009 14:03, Papaver

... it is necessary to accept gratefully!

06.05.2009 15:04, Илюха

It seems to me that we already have endromises flying away, but with Pavonia and tau still ahead, has anyone seen the last two this year ?

06.05.2009 15:54, Vabrus

Ilyukha,
I think that's what you saw.
In addition, Aglia tau began flying during the day


This post was edited by Vabrus - 06.05.2009 15: 55
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06.05.2009 16:44, Илюха

  Ilyukha,
I think that's what you saw.

That goes without saying , but has anyone else seen it ?

06.05.2009 16:50, Papaver

It depends on whether you smoked IT alone or with someone else...

(JOKE!!!) lol.gif
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06.05.2009 20:38, El Cazador

Well, since such a controversy began after my question, I will answer. In flight, Tau and Silkwing are very similar, easily confused. At the same time, Silkwings are actively flying here, and therefore it is still too early for Tau. I've never seen them in years. Basically, the previous participants said the same thing. But now I have a fundamental question. Ilyukha, you've seen or caught a Tau. Your first (affirmative) post is not very convincing, but the second one can really be placed under the poster "drug addict-shame and trouble of the nation".
P. S. Let's catch excellent tau and pavonias on the victory weekend in Yaroslavl, Ivanovo, and Moscow, let us be lucky!
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06.05.2009 21:26, Aaata

Well, since such a controversy began after my question, I will answer. In flight, Tau and Silkwing are very similar, easily confused. At the same time, Silkwings are actively flying here, and therefore it is still too early for Tau. I've never seen them in years. Basically, the previous participants said the same thing. But now I have a fundamental question. Ilyukha, you've seen or caught a Tau. Your first (affirmative) post is not very convincing, but the second one can really be placed under the poster "drug addict-shame and trouble of the nation".
P. S. Let's catch excellent tau and pavonias on the victory weekend in Yaroslavl, Ivanovo, and Moscow, let us be lucky!

Not everything is so clear. I have repeatedly collected tau and endromis in the Nizhny Novgorod region at the same time (on the same day) and, of course, in one place.

As for the similarity in flight of males of these 2 species, this is, of course, a very subjective assessment, but there is still a chance to confuse them.

06.05.2009 22:56, Tyomochkin

If you call Yandex, it will be +8 at night from Friday to Saturday and from Saturday to Sunday... given that the night is 02.00, then from 22.00 to 01.00 it will be about +10. But something in me is playing doubts... About pavnia... Generally strange. it seems warm, but there is no tau or pavonia....(((

07.05.2009 10:16, SVV

Dear forumchane, tell me, please, where closer to Moscow you can meet polixena and what is the optimal time for this? I was going to take a picture of it with a friend, but I'm not going to catch it, because I collect beetles.
You can write to your personal account.

07.05.2009 11:33, chebur

Dear forumchane, tell me, please, where closer to Moscow you can meet polixena and what is the optimal time for this? I was going to take a picture of it with a friend, but I'm not going to catch it, because I collect beetles.
You can write to your personal account.

I have a similar problem. I really want to see and photograph polixena.

07.05.2009 12:20, Victor Gazanchidis

I have a similar problem. I really want to see and photograph polixena.

It looks like the nearest point is near Kasimov, in the Ryazan region. And in terms of timing, it is already flying tongue.gifwith might and main, and swallowtails have also flown there.

This post was edited by vicgrr - 07.05.2009 12: 22

07.05.2009 12:45, Илюха

Well, since such a controversy began after my question, I will answer. In flight, Tau and Silkwing are very similar, easily confused. At the same time, Silkwings are actively flying here, and therefore it is still too early for Tau. I've never seen them in years. Basically, the previous participants said the same thing. But now I have a fundamental question. Ilyukha, you've seen or caught a Tau. Your first (affirmative) post is not very convincing, but the second one can really be placed under the poster "drug addict-shame and trouble of the nation".
P. S. Let's catch excellent tau and pavonias on the victory weekend in Yaroslavl, Ivanovo, and Moscow, let us be lucky!

I actually caught tau in the same birch forest as endromis, on the same day. If you don't want to believe it, it's true .

The post was edited by Ilyukha - 07.05.2009 12: 47
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07.05.2009 15:45, Vlad Proklov

It looks like the nearest point is near Kasimov, in the Ryazan region. And in terms of timing, it is already flying tongue.gifwith might and main, and swallowtails have also flown there.

It is even closer-in Ryazan and Solotcha itself.

07.05.2009 15:57, mikee

It is even closer-in Ryazan and Solotcha itself.

Places you need to know smile.gif

07.05.2009 16:45, Papaver

It's about places... Well, in general, ask Aaata... smile.gif shuffle.gif
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07.05.2009 19:13, mikee

It's about places... Well, in general, ask Aaata... smile.gif  shuffle.gif

Why should I? I already know them, I was looking for them myself smile.gif

07.05.2009 20:29, А.Й.Элез

If you call Yandex, it will be +8 at night from Friday to Saturday and from Saturday to Sunday... given that the night is 02.00, then from 22.00 to 01.00 it will be about +10. But something in me is playing doubts... About pavnia... Generally strange. it seems warm, but there is no tau or pavonia.... (((

Pavonia is going to the MO, a friend took a female the other day (besides, he says, flown), but I saw one female for sure on the night of 5 to 6, I reported it in the Fishing Reports.

07.05.2009 20:43, Sergey Didenko

Our mutual friend caught her in his "pogorelki" - fires there, so she got out ahead of time. And yours probably pupated somewhere on a hillock on the south side smile.gifI have a bad premonition that this year with abnormal weather there will be very few of them at all.

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