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25.05.2010 19:40, bials

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26.05.2010 9:34, Garricos

I have already identified this apparently: scoop, like Acronicta auricoma http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.p...onicta_Auricoma

Apparently it's not her-the caterpillar is small and there are no orange dots on the back, but a line. Most likely, this is the lichen Eilema lurideola, because yesterday I brought her all sorts of leaves, including moss, so she immediately went to him. But still thanks for trying smile.gif

26.05.2010 12:42, Arikain

What kind of caterpillars?
Maybe scoops of some kind?
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A little later, I found the same species on the same plant, but at an earlier age.:
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1. Scoop
2. Scoops, like Acronicta auricoma http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.p...onicta_Auricoma



Well, I'm far from an expert on caterpillars shuffle.gif, so I was determined http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=180650&st=1500

Apparently they identified the last one, and the second one is very similar to yours, I noticed them (there were 3-4 such caterpillars) among the mown grass, on a mother-and-stepmother leaf. It was small in size, and the line is also clearly visible.

26.05.2010 12:50, okoem

Pomogiga urgently identify guzenitsa!!! mol.gif Yesterday I found it next to a small pine tree, sitting on an ordinary dry blade of grass(I don't know the exact name, but in general, the usual last year's grass, which grows mainly in pine forests). On the southern slope of the hill. Minino station near Krasnoyarsk.
How to take care of it? What are the conditions for breeding a butterfly?

In the Crimea, this is what the caterpillars of Coscinia striata look like. They feed on cereals.
How to take care of - feed and read the topic " How to bring out a butterfly...". wink.gif

Apparently it's not her-the caterpillar is small and there are no orange dots on the back, but a line. Most likely, this is the lichen Eilema lurideola, because yesterday I brought her all sorts of leaves, including moss, so she immediately went to him.

It does not look like lurideola, it has an orange line not on the back, but on the side. She shouldn't eat moss, either.
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26.05.2010 12:59, okoem

Apparently identified the last, and the second in my opinion is very similar to yours

You're right. I put "2" there by mistake, I meant, of course, the third one.
Similar. Do you have striata in Karelia?

26.05.2010 13:41, Garricos

Well, I'm far from an expert on caterpillars shuffle.gif, so I was determined http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=180650&st=1500

Apparently they identified the last one, and the second one is very similar to yours, I noticed them (there were 3-4 such caterpillars) among the mown grass, on a mother-and-stepmother leaf. It was small in size, and the line is also clearly visible.



In the Crimea, this is what the caterpillars of Coscinia striata look like. They feed on cereals.
How to take care of - feed and read the topic " How to bring out a butterfly...". wink.gif
It does not look like lurideola, it has an orange line not on the back, but on the side. She shouldn't eat moss, either.


Yes, and I'm actually not an expert smile.gifAnd the caterpillar is really similar, the only thing is that my hairs are black. As for the moss , I brought her birch leaves, rose hips, raspberries, a sprig of pine and moss. She was half-dead, but now she was buried in the moss and noticeably faster.

This post was edited by Garricos - 05/26/2010 13: 48

26.05.2010 16:53, Arikain

You're right. I put "2" there by mistake, I meant, of course, the third one.
Similar. Do you have striata in Karelia?



Most likely not, the photos on the Internet are mostly from the Crimea. Here on the forum on page 27, they have already posted a similar caterpillar, they wrote that Cossinia striata is not found in the Moscow region, so in Karelia, probably, it is also unlikely. There is also a similar caterpillar Phragmatobia luctifera, but I am not sure that it is also found in Karelia.

26.05.2010 17:03, Arikain

Phragmatobia luctifera range - Central Europe http://lepidoptera.ru/species/phragmatobia-luctifera/ , so that in Karelia, too, it is unlikely, although in my opinion it fed on plantain, in any case, I saw several such caterpillars near this plant.

27.05.2010 14:15, Vlad Proklov

Most likely not, the photos on the Internet are mostly from the Crimea. Here on the forum on page 27, they have already posted a similar caterpillar, they wrote that Cossinia striata is not found in the Moscow region, so in Karelia, probably, it is also unlikely. There is also a similar caterpillar Phragmatobia luctifera, but I am not sure that it is also found in Karelia.

Both species are found in the Moscow region, and Spiris striata is also found in the Leningrad region, so it is a possible species for Karelia.
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27.05.2010 16:28, okoem

I brought her birch leaves, rose hips, raspberries, a sprig of pine and moss.

Birch, rosehip, and so on. she doesn't need it, unless it's striata, of course. Give her fescue, plantain, sage, wormwood, heather, hawkweed.
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27.05.2010 17:20, Arikain

Both species are found in the Moscow region , and Spiris striata is also found in the Leningrad region, so it is a possible species for Karelia.



Thanks!
The caterpillar was found in Kondopoga, in the south of Karelia, quite close to the Leningrad region.

28.05.2010 18:50, underveto

Help with the definition. mol.gif
I was sitting on a marigold, but the hostess does not allow me to feed the flowers, I need to find something else....

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28.05.2010 20:15, okoem

Help with the definition. mol.gif
I was sitting on a marigold, but the hostess does not allow me to feed the flowers, I need to find something else....

There are a lot of scoop caterpillars with a similar appearance. To be guaranteed to determine, you must output.
Feed - pluck a few leaves from the bottom, from the edge, while the owner does not see. But generally, scoops they are often polyphages, so try giving it a variety of herbaceous plants. For example, many deer scoops eat sorrel.
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28.05.2010 21:40, Ilia Ustiantcev

As for "plant terrorism" - are there really no marigolds in the city anywhere else!?
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30.05.2010 12:38, vasiliy-feoktistov

Hello, can you tell me whose goose it is?
Found the day before yesterday in the town of Zheleznodorozhny, on a fairly well-eaten horse sorrel.

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30.05.2010 21:47, Transilvania

Is anyone familiar with these caterpillars? Thank you in advance.
Taken today in the Moscow region. Black caterpillars live on ivan tea, yellow ones-on peas and cereals.

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30.05.2010 22:02, Sungaya

Is anyone familiar with these caterpillars? Thank you in advance.
Taken today in the Moscow region. Black caterpillars live on ivan tea, yellow ones-on peas and cereals.



yellow - Zygaena filipendulae
or Zygaena trifolii
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30.05.2010 22:15, vasiliy-feoktistov

yellow - Zygaena filipendulae
or Zygaena trifolii

Sash, probably the first one (trifolii doesn't really fit in with M. O.).
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30.05.2010 22:32, Ilia Ustiantcev

But lonicerae fits in.
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30.05.2010 22:37, okoem

Is anyone familiar with these caterpillars? Thank you in advance.
Taken today in the Moscow region. Black caterpillars live on ivan tea, yellow ones-on peas and cereals.

Black - something from the micro. Perhaps leaf wrappers of some kind.
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30.05.2010 22:38, vasiliy-feoktistov

But lonicerae fits in.

Ilya, is my little animal deaf? (the photo is not important, though).

30.05.2010 22:42, Victor Titov

Please help me recognize the caterpillar. May 30, 2010, Yaroslavl region, Borisoglebsky district, on a shrub willow.
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30.05.2010 22:45, Evgenich

Dmitrich
Arctia caja (Linnaeus, 1758)
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30.05.2010 22:52, Victor Titov

  Dmitrich
Arctia caja (Linnaeus, 1758)

Really? Who's that, then?" I thought this one was Arctia caja (shot there and today).
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30.05.2010 22:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

Really? Who's that, then?" I thought this one was Arctia caja (shot there and today).

Well, this is one hundred percent Kaya and she cracks the willow (I fed it myself).

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30.05.2010 23:00, Evgenich

Dmitrich
Compare:
http://sungaya.narod.ru/hete/arc/arc_caj.htm
Twin Brothers wink.gif
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30.05.2010 23:07, Victor Titov

  Dmitrich
Compare:
http://sungaya.narod.ru/hete/arc/arc_caj.htm
Twin brothers wink.gif

I agree, my first one, that from willow-a copy. But the second is that on the lily-of-the-valley leaf she was huddled (not for the purpose of eating it, I suppose, but just walking) - without gray hair! Is this their variability?

30.05.2010 23:09, Evgenich

Perhaps-variability. But, I think, elementary in the sun faded. It's an old one. smile.gif

30.05.2010 23:20, Vlad Proklov

Is anyone familiar with these caterpillars? Thank you in advance.
Taken today in the Moscow region. Black caterpillars live on ivan tea, yellow ones-on peas and cereals.

Black -- leaf wrapper Aphelia sp.
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30.05.2010 23:24, Victor Titov

Perhaps-variability. But, I think, elementary in the sun faded. It's an old one. smile.gif

You mean your gray hair is faded?! The first is the one with grayish bristles, much smaller in size (and, therefore, younger in age) the second one is bright and dark, with red markings on the bottom... confused.gif

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31.05.2010 9:42, Grigory Grigoryev

Guys, these are different ages. In the latter, it will be like on lily of the valley.
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31.05.2010 15:56, Sungaya

Sash, probably the first one (trifolii doesn't really fit in with M. O.).

In terms of frequency of occurrence, unless smile.gif

trifolii is on Sirotkin's list. It is found in wet meadows and swamps.
And filipendulae prefers dry places.

And lonicerae have a slightly different appearance (the color of the caterpillar itself and the length of the hairs)
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31.05.2010 16:32, Ilia Ustiantcev

Isn't trifolii a Western European species!? confused.gif

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31.05.2010 16:36, Sungaya

Hello, can you tell me whose goose it is?
Found the day before yesterday in the town of Zheleznodorozhny, on a fairly well-eaten horse sorrel.

possible eupsilia transversa
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31.05.2010 16:51, Vlad Proklov

Isn't trifolii a Western European species!? confused.gif

Exactly. It doesn't exist in Russia, and Sirotkin has a mistake.

31.05.2010 16:57, Sungaya

Exactly. It doesn't exist in Russia, and Sirotkin has a mistake.

trifolii is also given by Solntsev for the Kaluga region (2 copies). still the same-Sirotkinsky)
Here's a picture.
What exactly is the error?

This post was edited by Sungaya - 31.05.2010 17: 14

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31.05.2010 21:04, Vlad Proklov

trifolii is also given by Solntsev for the Kaluga region (2 copies). still the same-Sirotkinsky)
Here's a picture.
What exactly is the error?

Sclerotization of the ductus is a variable sign that is not diagnostic.

Z. trifolii is a spring Western European species (I caught them in England in April-May), not reliably known from Russia, all indications are from the evil one.

This post was edited by kotbegemot - 05/31/2010 21: 05
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31.05.2010 21:19, Sungaya

Well, if so, then caterpillar Transilvanii-filipendulae
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31.05.2010 22:18, Transilvania

Thank you very much! As for the motley birds, we have a wild number of these near our house in the summer -
user posted image
"Zygaena lonicerae-Meadow mottle (honeysuckle), female, family of Mottles (Zygaenidae)" on Yandex.Photos
These are smaller, I thought they were lonicerae.

and these

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"MEADOWSWEET MOTTLE (Zygaena filipendulae), sem. mottle / on the flowers of the medicinal letter-Betonica officinalis L., sem.lipotsvetnye" on Yandex.Photos
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31.05.2010 22:59, Glass

Hello! Please help me identify the caterpillars. Taken at the end of May 2010 in the Moscow region (Kashirsky district)

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