Crimea, Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova

Well, men, in Ukraine you are mowing beetles neshutoshnaya, in our places more modest by an order of magnitude, and that cream-red finally-fundamental!!!!

Interestingly, in our area Cucujus cinnabarinus is? I do not know, have not found or seen it once: I envy

Interestingly, in our area Cucujus cinnabarinus is? I do not know, have not found or seen it once: I envy you

In theory, there is, Gumenyuk sort of filmed. What was found was in rather thick (somewhere from 50 cm) fallen trunks. Alder, aspen, poplar, (?) oak.
At least both species are listed in the Red Data Book of MO, so both are.

1) Cucujus cinnaberinus
2) Three is just right. 35 is too
much 3) Aruginosa looks great on the rough bark of a beech tree. The main thing is that it is completely unexpected. Surprise effect!

How many Cucujus cinnaberinus were there? In our Kharkiv region it is rare and local

Today, one of my most long-held dreams came true - I caught Neomidia haemorrhoidalis, three of them at once, in one rotten wood mushroom. A male and two females.

Andrey, it goes well in the summer. I also searched all my life until last summer without success..... And then it broke through: overnight I took and collected a series. And not somewhere in the forest, but in the city, right at home, on the balcony! You should also try to shine it next year if you have it in your area.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 13.10.2013 11: 34

I have always called this tree the beech, Carpinus Betulus, although it is probably the same as the hornbeam

In hornbeam, the wood fibers are twisted like a rope, in beech they run parallel, like most trees, in my opinion it is very difficult to confuse (at least these two).

Interestingly, in our area Cucujus cinnabarinus is? I do not know, have not found or seen it once: I envy you

Well, photos of biotopes...

http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/article.php?id=115
In my opinion, two were under the bark of a maple tree. Even the outskirts of the village, the railway, surprised me at all. But maple is quite powerful.
And there is a photo of the dried one below. This is under the bark of a fallen oak tree, 50 centimeters, the edge of the forest. The same place in fact, 150-200 meters from the maple tree.

http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/article.php?id=109
In the lower part - where Skrylnik near the alder. A few days earlier, he had hollowed out a stump of brown rot with an axe. In general, a swampy biotope with alder.

12.10.2013. Russkaya Lozovaya village
http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/search.ph...0.2013&submit=1
Whether in the garden or in the vegetable garden...
I won't write an opera - I don't have time...

For barry
, I say that for long and heavy trips, there is nothing better than a Daewoo Matiz. It is a red car.

How many Cucujus cinnaberinus were there? In our Kharkiv region, it is rare and local

To be honest, there was only one" kukuzhusov". And separately incomplete elytra. But this is in Lozovo, 60 km from Chisinau, and right under the city in the dying birch plantings they are swarming. But exclusively cinnaberinus. Haematodes no.

Take everyone to the congress,and then we'll figure it out, right Vasily?

Mini-report. 13.10.13 in the evening we went with Diletant and Isson Max to our Kiev hydropark, located on the islands in the middle of the Dnieper. The purpose of the trip is to check the integrity of the metropolitan population of Poecilocampa populi and Ptilophora plumigera. Both are present in sufficient quantities. They shone on two DRL-125 and DRL-250 lamps from 18.30 to 20.30. First, the cocoonworms flew, then an hour later the plumigers took over the baton. For some reason, more butterflies flew to 125-ku than to 250-ku. Petya (Diletant) caught an interesting poplar-on the mattress at the bottom right. Please comment on what kind of form this is - this is the first time I've seen it. Most likely, this trip is the end of the season for me, though...

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Take everyone to the congress,and then we'll figure it out, right Vasily?

Petya (Diletant) caught an interesting poplar-on the mattress at the bottom right. Please comment on what kind of form this is - this is the first time I've seen it.

In the topic cocoonworms have already written that this is a form of P. populi f. albescens Heine

Maybe I'm too pushy... but an updated version of the report on the "Dacha" forest...
http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/article.php?id=134
In my haste, I actually only had enough time for photos, the thought was cut short.
The text part has been significantly expanded, and I can't leave this day cut off in mid-sentence.
This little reddish bug kept me up all night...

Interesting. Boris, did you find this bug on the trunk of a tree? At least coniferous-deciduous. Most likely a wintering beetle. Boom search! Are you sure Tenebroides is fuscous? Do you distinguish it from mauretanicus?

Maybe I'm too pushy... but an updated version of the report on the "Dacha" forest...
http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/article.php?id=134
In my haste, I actually only had enough time for photos, the thought was cut short.
The text part has been significantly expanded, and I can't leave this day cut off in mid-sentence.
This little reddish bug kept me up all night...

Boris, we need to fix it again: the nutcracker, which is signed as"? Elateridae " without any questions Ampedus sanguinolentus (Schrank, 1776)

For some reason, more butterflies flew to 125-ku than to 250-ku.

In my experience, in the cold part of the year, butterflies fly better in a weaker light than the DRL-250. However, there may be other reasons than the rated power of the lamp. Last October, my friend and I caught two DRL-250 lamps located next to each other. So one of the lamps flew significantly better than the second.

We continue to determine the catch from Lozov, where we went with Sasha Kiselyov ( evilforester ) last Saturday. The "harsh furry weevil" turned out to be a zoferid - Nosodomodes diabolicus. The "undecorated pterostichus" caught hastily and for some unknown reason turned out to be laemostenus terricola, just as the staphylinus from Paederinae taken just in case, as it seemed to me at the time, turned out to be Xantholinus decorus from Staphylininae. All in all, three pleasant misconceptions. Bothrideres bipunctatus was determined from the subcortical trifle. All new views for me! The rest is some kind of Ciidae, they will have to be postponed for now.
Not a bad ride, huh?

Interesting. Boris, did you find this bug on the trunk of a tree? At least coniferous-deciduous. Most likely a wintering beetle. Boom search! Are you sure Tenebroides is fuscous? Do you distinguish it from mauretanicus?

Deciduous wood in the swamps, mostly oak, was found under the bark of an elm. I think this is not important, I did not find any information about any explicit preferences. Most likely, this is just a random secluded place where he climbed for the winter.

And Tenebroides is defined by Triplaxxx, I can't be sure. Probably feels something on the pronotum, I don't know for sure. Maybe he'll reveal his secret...

In principle, I even found the keys somewhere and have them on my site
http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/determination.php?id=5690
The sawyere seems to be clearly distinguishable, but I don't have such strong optics at home. In general, I did not see both types lying next to each other, I do not risk taking the liberty of identifying them.

This post was edited by barry - 10/14/2013 20: 48

It seems that the most reliable sign is the place of habitation. Unless they're visiting each other. Related

In fact, the microsculpture attribute used in many keys is variable and not reliable. The shape of the antennae in these species differs, but it is much easier to distinguish them by the shape and size of the eyes - when viewed from the side, T. fuscus has larger eyes and b.-m. round, while T. mauritanicus has smaller ones and is cut off from behind, their height is greater than the longitudinal length. Large samples from different locations are easy to identify. Another thing is that T. fuscus has never met me as a synanthropus, and T. mauritanicus, although rare, is also found in nature, at least in our country.

To understand about the eyes, and other external signs, you need to see both species side by side at least once. If the beetle is constantly and quite often found in nature in a small area-let it be fuscous for now. It is necessary to take from other points and compare. I wish we had some moorish oatmeal in our kitchen. Oatmeal, sir!!!

barry: I read your last report and thought about it. This method of catching beetles - - - is not the destruction of the biotope? If all suitable trees are stripped of their bark, where will the beetles spend the winter? And by the way, the new bark will not grow in place of the torn one...
What do you say?

Yes, if you exceed some standards..If you open all possible wintering grounds of a certain species-2-3 seasons in a row, then definitely yes.

  barry: I read your last report and thought about it. This method of catching beetles - - - is not the destruction of the biotope? If all suitable trees are stripped of their bark, where will the beetles spend the winter? And by the way, the new bark will not grow in place of the torn one...
What do you say?

In principle, I don't do" industrial "fishing, I even avoid the word" I caught it", if it occurs sometimes - it's like quoting Arthur. In addition, I am not a "botanist" to give such conclusions of an ecological nature, it is better to address this question to Arthur, but I will try to comment from a simple "rural" point of view...

The forest is at least a kilometer across, we passed (although in relation to the karabuses - one Arthur) let's say 500 meters, let's say we captured the space of 10 meters on the sides... I won't count the area ratio... Taking into account the fact that they were more or less stable along the route, it turns out that they are more or less evenly distributed in the forest. It is unlikely that our chaotically chosen route "lay down" just on their narrow habitat. We did not use any special indicators of their presence, we just stupidly went wherever our eyes looked. That is, since a random sample gave a more or less stable presence throughout the entire chaotic route, then with a high degree of probability we can assume that they are more or less evenly distributed throughout the forest. Thus, to pass "through all suitable trees", you need to work at least more than one person and not one day.
Some of the carbuses probably fell out from under the bark, this process is uncontrolled, I did not keep statistics , but in theory such a factor was present.
I hope a large part of the carabuses were in the litter, which we did not pay attention to. Even if they did, it would take a very decent group of hunters to go to such a forest in order to somehow noticeably shake up the entire litter... and it is necessary to go in one wave... they'll be running back and forth...
Some of the carabus probably swam or crawled in the swamps - we didn't go there...

"the new bark will not grow in place of the torn one..."


Even Karabus was surprised by this question (note the expression on his face), peeking out from under the rotten bark of a decaying oak...

  barry: I read your last report and thought about it. This method of catching beetles - - - is not the destruction of the biotope? If all suitable trees are stripped of their bark, where will the beetles spend the winter? And by the way, the new bark will not grow in place of the torn one...
What do you say?

By the way, I have long thought about this issue, and now I never indiscriminately peel the bark, and if I do, I try to bend it only, because this is really an irreparable violation of the ecological balance in the truest sense, nothing "worse" than cutting down old trees or transforming the landscape.
Moreover, the old bark is a very frequent place for wintering queens and wasps!

And indeed, it is precisely the old bark on half-dead trees, which is usually torn off by everyone, that does not grow, because it has nowhere to grow

Andrey, so you recruited cucujus for exchange, in the dying birch plantations near Chisinau???

Andrey, so you recruited cucujus for exchange, in the dying birch plantations near Chisinau???

I attach myself to the question

 
Moreover, the old bark is a very frequent place for wintering queens and wasps!

I don't know, I've never seen queens under the bark!

Andrey, so you recruited cucujus for exchange, in the dying birch plantations near Chisinau???

Maxim, see your email address.

Prisoydenyayu to the question

Artur, IN VYHOOODNYEE!

I didn't catch the light on purpose, but sometimes he sits in the entrance hall under a lamp, sometimes he flies into the country... Results for the week: moth Agriopis aurantiaria, Erannis defoliaria, crested Ptilophora plumigera, scoops Agrochola circellaris, Allophyes oxyacanthae, Eupsilia transversa, Staurophora celsia. There were also Autographa gamma, I didn't click them.

In principle, I don't do" industrial "fishing, I even avoid the word" I caught it", if it occurs sometimes - it's like quoting Arthur. In addition, I am not a "botanist" to give such conclusions of an ecological nature, it is better to address this question to Arthur, but I will try to comment from a simple "rural" point of view...

I thought for a long time what to answer, probably it's better not to develop offtop.
Thank you to all who responded.
Let the beetles live

Agriopis aurantiaria moth,

I didn't catch the light on purpose, but sometimes he sits in the entrance hall under a lamp, sometimes he flies into the country... Results for the week: moth Agriopis aurantiaria, Erannis defoliaria, crested Ptilophora plumigera, scoops Agrochola circellaris, Allophyes oxyacanthae, Eupsilia transversa, Staurophora celsia. There were also Autographa gamma, I didn't click them.

  

Also defoliaria?

Yes, this is also Erannis defoliaria! Agriopis aurantiaria flies ONLY in early spring and can not meet in mid-October!

Are you confusing it with marginaria? Here it is - in the spring.

And in defoliaria, as for me, the kink of the extreme band is more noticeable, in the photo on the rear wings the band is visible - I still tend to aurantiaria.

And I thought that all species of the genus Agriopis fly in early spring. Thank you for correcting me. I'll know now.

we had cold weather - but not a minus, there was no snow. Although this year nature is weird, everything can be)))

still, I'm leaning towards aurantium.

IMHO-aurantiaria.